Warning: Spyerase intentionally erases BugHunter from your machine

[4Q]

Laura Fredericks wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>
> On 19 Feb 2007 12:52:15 -0800, "Dustin Cook"
> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in post:
> >I got the pic on my friends cell, I'll download it to my box this
> >evening and forward it to you. You can send it along to 4Q. I've
> >given him permission to host a copy unmodified. I'm sending it to
> >you as I know you will pass on the file I sent, not some bs which
> >claims to be me.
>
> Okay. Will do.
>
> I will add it to the acv photo gallery, too. Though I kinda like that
> can o' Raid I have there, now, hahaha.
>
> >Is there anything you'd like for me to do in the photo to prove it's
> >me? Hold up a magic marker sign "4Q is a non coding, pipe dreaming
> >****witt" or something?
>
> Lol. How 'bout holding a sign that says, "Above a monkey". j/k Or
> better yet, "I Rock" -- lmao!
>
> <cheap spelling flame>
> It's "****wit". One t.
> </cheap spelling flame>
>
> Can't wait for the photo, Raid! Curious how close to my mental image
> of you you really look.
>

I bet you are already laughing. The
******* will look exactly as imagined.


4Q

[Dustin Cook]

On Feb 19, 4:05 pm, Laura Fredericks <anonom...@CLOTHEShotmail.com>
wrote:
> Lol. How 'bout holding a sign that says, "Above a monkey". j/k Or
> better yet, "I Rock" -- lmao!

Will a bowl do? I intend to fire up one when I get home!

Free shot at me 4q, c'mon... I just admitted I smoke.. weed!
(this isn't actually news, but.. for those just tuning in).. <g>


> <cheap spelling flame>
> It's "****wit". One t.
> </cheap spelling flame>

hehe... my bad.. my bad.

You know, I don't really have any problems with 4Q, I figure it's just
my turn for target practice...

> Can't wait for the photo, Raid! Curious how close to my mental image
> of you you really look.

I doubt your mental image will match what I actually look like. I'm
normal looking, if I do say so for myself.
Not too shabby.. I'll let you be the judge tho. One thing, I look like
a kid, but I'm 29, so don't be asking me if I'm legal to drive when
you see what I look like. Yes, I get carded for cigs every damn day.


The nearest trailerpark is 12 miles from my house. I live in a two
story building, that is owned by my stepdad. The 1st floor is what I
call my dungeon. The 2nd floor is where mum, stepdad, family
friends exist... ad nausem.

Dungeon is my smoking den, computer lab, car parts storage.. ehh,
whatever it is i'm tinkering with.

[Dustin Cook]

On Feb 19, 4:17 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> Dustin Cook wrote:
> > On Feb 18, 11:26 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> > > Dustin Cook wrote:
> > > > "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote in
> > > >news:1171850573.103492.57950@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com:
>
> <snip>
>
> > > > It's assembler... Are you going to make fun of my sloppy almost 10 year
> > > > old assembler routines too? *grin*
>
> <hold that thought>
>
> > ...It's no secret that the
> > criterror routine was taken in part from Ibrary v2.0 written by Thomas
> > Hanlin
>
> *HAHA* One minute it's *your* assembler, next we find out that the
> code belongs to Thomas Hanlin and you mearly tlib'd his work then
> pretended you wrote it. You are a deceptive little AV turd.

Actually, no. some of the code belongs to thomas, some is mine. This
is all actually common knowledge, I'm surprised you didn't know. I
made no effort to hide where the code came from when I was using it
years ago, writing.. lame self replicating programs that nobody wanted
then, and nobody wants now.

Since you didn't bother to show the differences between the original
and mine, it's a safe bet you really don't have even that little
amount of coding skill. When you mentioned someone should use a
debugger, you didn't actually mean you did ya?

unlike yourself tho, I don't live in the fantasy world that Vx is the
begin/ending of all, I grew up.... One day, you will too.

> <snip>
>
> > The only dirt your going to be thrashing about is 10+ year old code,
> > way over, done, nobody cares.
>
> Now everyone knows you have been
> caught with your pants down, pretending
> you wrote Hanlin's library function.
> Accussing PCButts of ripping then
> calling Mandragore and Vecna code
> rippers (proof please). You ****tard
> turncoat.

Caught with my pants down? 4Q, your making a big deal about 10 year
old code.. 10 years ago man.. hehehe.
I didn't pretend to write anything, hanlins function isn't the same
thing that I posted years ago. Their are differences between them.
more than tlibbing I'm afraid.

I didn't call vecna or mandragore anything, I used it as a reference
point. Vecna and mandragore both at some point read others code,
studied it, modified it, and learned from it. As most programmers do.
We didn't actually call this code ripping then. And nobody really
thinks of it as code ripping now, except for.. you apparently. with
regard to myself, and none of the others.

You've also been making some assinine claims which painfully tell me
what little programming skill you actually possess on your own. No
wonder I never saw anything from you when I was active vx, you
couldn't code anything then, and you haven't bothered to learn
anything now?

1. BugHunter doesn't use string scanning.
2. I am not antivirus, BugHunter does not search for viruses.
3. The best you can come at me with is 10 year old code that I didn't
author entirely by myself. Wow!
4. Even after telling you the files are different, you couldn't find
out how. You assumed wrongly, again, that I just tlibbed it. You
really should take an assembler dump of the file, since the hex editor
isn't helping you.
5. You will not find any reference using a hex editor to any Charon
Software in that object file. What you will find is ibrary code
comments start and end, which I did preserve. the code however in the
middle that actually does the work, is not the same as his. His
routine was originally designed only for the ibrary internal
functions. It's not even a routine available thru the library that you
could call. I took that apart, and made a stand alone int24h handler
out of it, which is what the obj file I posted is. Tom Hanlins is
integrated into the library, can only be accessed by it's own routines
and does nothing to help you with crit error handling. Mine does. Yes,
it's based originally on his code, but it's no longer his design. We
call this an improvement over the original idea. Read up on patents
sometime. Same idea.

If you can still call toms and mine the same thing even after the fact
one doesn't work outside the librarys own routines and the other
doesn't work with them, but works independently, then you can call me
a code ripper, if you like.


Now, if you really want to play code ripper games, everybody else
besides the first person who wrote "Hello World" is a code ripper.
Everybody who uses someone elses library functions, sophos, avg, you
guys here me? , to 4Q we're all code rippers!



And before you try tearing me to pieces in usenet, you best brush up
on programming. String scanners and checksum based scanning are/is two
entirely different technologies. Offly sad that you couldn't tell the
difference.

Oh, btw 4Q, yes, I stalled getting your shell accounts to you, They've
been online for 2 weeks now. *grin*. I did lose the bet tho, I
expected you would blow up and switch sides 3 weeks ago. hehehe. You
are, indeed, predictable. You can understand of course why HHI
wouldn't want to help you now, right? You can't be trusted with
anything.

[4Q]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> On Feb 19, 4:05 pm, Laura Fredericks <anonom...@CLOTHEShotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Lol. How 'bout holding a sign that says, "Above a monkey". j/k Or
> > better yet, "I Rock" -- lmao!
>
> Will a bowl do? I intend to fire up one when I get home!
>
> Free shot at me 4q, c'mon... I just admitted I smoke.. weed!

Man, you told me you had your Monster Truck up on two wheels, after
smoking weeds, years ago... this isn't news!

And when you were pissed scared after
being pulled by the cops in possession
of weed... old news.

> (this isn't actually news, but.. for those just tuning in).. <g>
>

See above.

>
> > <cheap spelling flame>
> > It's "****wit". One t.
> > </cheap spelling flame>
>
> hehe... my bad.. my bad.
>
> You know, I don't really have any problems with 4Q, I figure it's just
> my turn for target practice...

*awww* that's sweet, and I don't
really have any problems with you
either (pins up target), I respect
you as a BASIC coder, the Int86
calls and prepender virus just add
extra kudos.


>
> > Can't wait for the photo, Raid! Curious how close to my mental image
> > of you you really look.
>
> I doubt your mental image will match what I actually look like. I'm
> normal looking, if I do say so for myself.

Let us be the judge of that.

> Not too shabby.. I'll let you be the judge tho. One thing, I look like
> a kid,

Yeah, but we'd never have figured
you for a kid on Usenet with all
your mature dialog!

> but I'm 29, so don't be asking me if I'm legal to drive when
> you see what I look like. Yes, I get carded for cigs every damn day.

This had better not be the picture
of the spotty teenager from
trailerpark trash site!

>
>
> The nearest trailerpark is 12 miles from my house. I live in a two
> story building, that is owned by my stepdad. The 1st floor is what I
> call my dungeon.

Read, lives with his mum and
has a room in the basement.


The 2nd floor is where mum, stepdad, family
> friends exist... ad nausem.
>
> Dungeon is my smoking den, computer lab, car parts storage.. ehh,
> whatever it is i'm tinkering with.

A real teenagers den. Do you have
a big poster of your favorite pop
singer over your bed?


4Q

[Dustin Cook]

On Feb 19, 5:09 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> Dustin Cook wrote:
> > On Feb 19, 4:05 pm, Laura Fredericks <anonom...@CLOTHEShotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Lol. How 'bout holding a sign that says, "Above a monkey". j/k Or
> > > better yet, "I Rock" -- lmao!
>
> > Will a bowl do? I intend to fire up one when I get home!
>
> > Free shot at me 4q, c'mon... I just admitted I smoke.. weed!
>
> Man, you told me you had your Monster Truck up on two wheels, after
> smoking weeds, years ago... this isn't news!
>
> And when you were pissed scared after
> being pulled by the cops in possession
> of weed... old news.
>
> > (this isn't actually news, but.. for those just tuning in).. <g>
>
> See above.
>
>
>
> > > <cheap spelling flame>
> > > It's "****wit". One t.
> > > </cheap spelling flame>
>
> > hehe... my bad.. my bad.
>
> > You know, I don't really have any problems with 4Q, I figure it's just
> > my turn for target practice...
>
> *awww* that's sweet, and I don't
> really have any problems with you
> either (pins up target), I respect
> you as a BASIC coder, the Int86
> calls and prepender virus just add
> extra kudos.

basic coder? Oh yes, 10 year old source codes...
I write in other languages too.. ehh. assembler, foxtran (hehehe,
anything to complain about?), some scripting like languages for old
bbs systems... lets see, various dialects of basic from cp/m to
win9x... Ah hell, why bother listing them?

4Q, why is it we've never seen any code from you? I mean, nothing, no
code whatsoever.

> Let us be the judge of that.

Your doing great so far. Have you figured out the difference between a
string scanner algorithm, and a checksumming one yet? The reason I ask
is because its an important difference between the two. And I think if
your going to attack me here on usenet, you probably should know wtf
your talking about first. It'll save me some time having to teach you.

> Yeah, but we'd never have figured
> you for a kid on Usenet with all
> your mature dialog!

Let's not even compare each other in this category. I don't host a
site thats sole purpose is trashing people. It's ehh, very mature..
yes... /scarasm.

> This had better not be the picture
> of the spotty teenager from
> trailerpark trash site!

*yawn*. it'll be me. a newer picture.

>
>
> > The nearest trailerpark is 12 miles from my house. I live in a two
> > story building, that is owned by my stepdad. The 1st floor is what I
> > call my dungeon.
>
> Read, lives with his mum and
> has a room in the basement.

Read what I wrote, not what you *think* I wrote. It's a big house, and
my dungeon is not a room in the basement. I could park 3 fullsize
chevy vans in one of the rooms consisting of my dungeon, kiddo.

I suppose I'll take a few pics, don't mind the messy clothes and
stuff, as you're going to keep up with this assinine behavior of
yours.

> > Dungeon is my smoking den, computer lab, car parts storage.. ehh,
> > whatever it is i'm tinkering with.
>
> A real teenagers den. Do you have
> a big poster of your favorite pop
> singer over your bed?

Pop Singer? didn't read Bughunter's documentation either huh? Lemme
get it for you:

I would also like to thank the following bands for providing much of
the
music I've been listening to as I work to update this program.

Clutch
Dope
Alice In Chains
Metallica
AC/DC
GodSmack
The Charlie Daniels Band
Led Zeppelin
Megadeth
Korn

You don't know anything about music either, huh?

Find me the pop singers in that mix.. heheheh

A teenagers den? Strange. I have a computer lab at the house,
consisting of a small network of low end by todays standards
computers, parts, networking equipment, some tools, some entertainment
devices (tv in each dungeon room, complete with HDTV, dvd player (divx/
xvid!) etc...), old school pioneer stereo (it's in a wooden cabinet).
Lemme see.. Oh yes, my authentic 1927 rca radio that still works!
It's shortwave if your interested.

Very teenager like things, yes? LOL!

[Dustin Cook]

On Feb 19, 4:31 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> Dustin Cook wrote:
> > On Feb 19, 5:11 am, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> > > Dustin Cook wrote:
> > > > "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote in
> > > >news:1171850573.103492.57950@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com:
>
> > > <snip>
>
> > > I tell you what bro, since I rarely release photos or anything else
>
> > > > >> personal of that sort, I'll send you and Laura a recent pic of me for
> > > > >> your sites. Ok?
>
> > > > > A man of your word, aye ;]]
> > > > > No photo. Did you send Laura
> > > > > your photo or can she assume your
> > > > > words are worthless?
>
> > > > A photo is forthcoming 4Q, and yes, I give you permission to host it
> > > > unmodified if you'd like.
>
> > > > > Yes, let the Usenet public see who
> > > > > this great ASIC 16bit DOS box coder
> > > > > really is.
>
> > > > ehehehe.. Okay, 4Q, thanks for calling me Great
>
> > > > > Incase anyone is wondering what's
> > > > > inside the BugHunter string scanner
> > > > > take a look at these.
>
> > > > >http://fourq.host.sk/INFO/acvsc/
>
> > > > > 809b46cfc09e48f5.txt
> > > > > 600600e471413116.txt
> > > > > 06e6bc3879503044.txt
>
> > > > So your coming at me with things that are almost 10 years old now?
> > > > From: C...@raiderz.com (Casio [SLAM])
> > > > Subject: an oldie.. Weed v1.0
> > > > Date: 1997/12/16
>
> > > > 4Q, can't you find something more recent? eheh... Sheesh.
>
> > > > The last one is especially silly, man..
>
> > > > Date: 1997/07/23
> > > > Message-ID: <33d6015...@nova.zianet.com>#1/1
> > > > X-Deja-AN: 259547767
> > > > Organization: Southwest Cyberport
> > > > Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus.source.code
>
> > > > I forgot to include the critical error handler which rustybug needs
> > > > Its an .obj file, linked in during compile.
>
> > > > It's assembler... Are you going to make fun of my sloppy almost 10 year
> > > > old assembler routines too? *grin*
>
> > > > > And here's a word from our hero
>
> > > > > "...I've been to the dark side, I
> > > > > think I'll stay awhile"
>
> > > > > Well you've got to trust he's not
> > > > > bull****ting us on his word again.
>
> > > > Hah! Your a funny one.
>
> > > > >> > So he might jump back? This hero partnership of yours is going to
> > > > >> > be strained from the outset if you can't trust your own sidekick,
> > > > >> > Lipman! ;]]
>
> > > > >> I believe I have David's trust, atleast some.
>
> > > > > Has he seen your messy ASIC ****?
> > > > > *grin*
>
> > > > Oh, I'm sure he's seen those old posts you found, yes. I have a wider
> > > > audience and contact list than you seem to realize, old buddy.
>
> > > > > 4Q (The AV turncoat's biographer)
>
> > > > > p.s. If you'd like to know more about
> > > > > Dustin Cook (aka Raid the b'ASIC coder)
> > > > > then you should bookmark the following
> > > > > link(s). I promise you it will be
> > > > > worth following.
>
> > > > >http://fourq.host.sk/chars/Dustin_Cook/
> > > > >http://fourq.host.sk/chars/Raid/
>
> > > > I also recommend you bookmark these urls. 4Q is sure to give you an
> > > > amusing journey into some old things I most likely did during my time as
> > > > a Vxer. You have to appreciate the person behind the mask. It's my turn?
> > > > to be on the front cover!
>
> > > *hehehehe* I remember when the Millenium Dickhead (aka Brian
> > > 'dickhead' Barlev) crowed about my telling his story for the benefit
> > > of a wider audience via a special webpage... Initially the cheeky
> > > ******* would email me and say I was doing him a great publicity job,
> > > as he mind manipulated me into writing whatever he wanted.
>
> > > Eventually as the years rolled on he realized his story wasn't exactly
> > > going as well as he thought it might *smirk*. Then 'the story' started
> > > to sink in... How many times did he try to commit suicide? 3-4???
> > > times before they locked him up in a mental hospital. Well we never
> > > did hear from Dickhead again... *shrug* (I'd like to think he thought
> > > of me as the razorblade cut for the last time) *LOL*
>
> > > 4Q (The AV turncoat's official biographer)
>
> > Have you learned the difference between string scanning and
> > checksumming yet? *grin*
>
> > It's about time someone took you to task in a public forum, I thank
> > you for the opportunity to do so.
>
> *hehe* Do your worst, nothing will stick. I'm mearly the messenger,
> shooting at me isn't going to save your skanky arse. Meanwhile I'm
> going to enjoy relaying 'the message' as you are torn
> to pieces in public.

So that's a no to my question? You don't know the difference between a
string scanner and a checksummer? How sad... what field is it your in
again?

[4Q]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> On Feb 19, 4:17 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> > Dustin Cook wrote:
> > > On Feb 18, 11:26 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Dustin Cook wrote:
> > > > > "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote in
> > > > >news:1171850573.103492.57950@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > > > It's assembler... Are you going to make fun of my sloppy almost 10 year
> > > > > old assembler routines too? *grin*
> >
> > <hold that thought>
> >
> > > ...It's no secret that the
> > > criterror routine was taken in part from Ibrary v2.0 written by Thomas
> > > Hanlin
> >
> > *HAHA* One minute it's *your* assembler, next we find out that the
> > code belongs to Thomas Hanlin and you mearly tlib'd his work then
> > pretended you wrote it. You are a deceptive little AV turd.
>
> Actually, no. some of the code belongs to thomas, some is mine. This
> is all actually common knowledge, I'm surprised you didn't know.

And yet anyone reading what you wrote
would be led to believe you wrote it.
You obviously didn't expect someone to
take a quick look at the ASIC l'ibrary.

>I made no effort to hide where the code came from when I was using it
> years ago, writing.. lame self replicating programs that nobody wanted
> then, and nobody wants now.

You don't want now! It's hard to escape
your past and for everyone to see that
you really aren't much of a coder
beyond simple DOS codes.


> Since you didn't bother to show the differences between the original
> and mine, it's a safe bet you really don't have even that little
> amount of coding skill. When you mentioned someone should use a
> debugger, you didn't actually mean you did ya?

Well since I only downloaded IBRARY yesterday and Linux doesn't come
with a 16bit DOS debugger it's hardly
surprising I haven't debugged it yet.
But now that I feel the challenge has
been laid down, you can expect to see
Bughunter source code published.


> unlike yourself tho, I don't live in the fantasy world that Vx is the
> begin/ending of all, I grew up.... One day, you will too.

Well let's see what falls out in
your webpage biography. )

>
> > <snip>
> >
> > > The only dirt your going to be thrashing about is 10+ year old code,
> > > way over, done, nobody cares.
> >
> > Now everyone knows you have been
> > caught with your pants down, pretending
> > you wrote Hanlin's library function.
> > Accussing PCButts of ripping then
> > calling Mandragore and Vecna code
> > rippers (proof please). You ****tard
> > turncoat.
>
> Caught with my pants down? 4Q, your making a big deal about 10 year
> old code.. 10 years ago man.. hehehe.

You are taking this 10yr old piece of
**** coding to heart. I do hope Bughuckster you've improved over a
10yr
period... alas I think we will be sadly
disappointed and see the same old ****
(which is your level of coding unfortunately).

> I didn't pretend to write anything, hanlins function isn't the same
> thing that I posted years ago. Their are differences between them.
> more than tlibbing I'm afraid.

You sound rattled. You made some
remark giving everyone the idea this
was all your own work and after a few
hours someone digs up IBRARY off the
net and sees the code you was claiming
to be yours full of IBRARY references.


>
> I didn't call vecna or mandragore anything, I used it as a reference
> point. Vecna and mandragore both at some point read others code,
> studied it, modified it, and learned from it. As most programmers do.
> We didn't actually call this code ripping then. And nobody really
> thinks of it as code ripping now, except for.. you apparently. with
> regard to myself, and none of the others.

I smell bull**** backpeddling.


>
> You've also been making some assinine claims which painfully tell me
> what little programming skill you actually possess on your own. No
> wonder I never saw anything from you when I was active vx, you
> couldn't code anything then, and you haven't bothered to learn
> anything now?

Really, you still haven't found
anything? And yet my work still
manages to make it into virus
databases. I take it you never
grepped any of my A.I. work
hosted on Coderz.net either
Ask Guillermito (I know he likes to swap good codes for your lame code
effort)
if he'll spare you a copy, I know he
likes to swap good codes for your
lamer code efforts). Then weep 16bit
BASIC boy. ;]]


> 1. BugHunter doesn't use string scanning.

*Who ****ing really cares?!* I only
don't loaded your **** yesterday,
I've not even opened it with a hex
editor let alone a debugger.

> 2. I am not antivirus, BugHunter does not search for viruses.

Check your database you lying ****.
And when were worms excluded from
from the AV prodcts? Arsehole.


> 3. The best you can come at me with is 10 year old code that I didn't
> author entirely by myself. Wow!

You won't release the source code to
BugHunter because everyone knows it
will just be more **** by someone who
can't raise his game above BASIC with
a couple of Int86 calls.... how many
years ago should you have stopped using
this crap, 10-15? really lame and sad.


> 4. Even after telling you the files are different, you couldn't find
> out how. You assumed wrongly, again, that I just tlibbed it. You
> really should take an assembler dump of the file, since the hex editor
> isn't helping you.

Sourcer on standby ;]]

> 5. You will not find any reference using a hex editor to any Charon
> Software in that object file. What you will find is ibrary code
> comments start and end, which I did preserve.

Yeah, and they come back to haunt you.
You should have removed any trace of
IBRARY if you wanted to claim it was
all your own work at the outset (before
someone bubbled you -- that would be me)


>the code however in the
> middle that actually does the work, is not the same as his. His
> routine was originally designed only for the ibrary internal
> functions. It's not even a routine available thru the library that you
> could call. I took that apart, and made a stand alone int24h handler
> out of it, which is what the obj file I posted is. Tom Hanlins is
> integrated into the library, can only be accessed by it's own routines
> and does nothing to help you with crit error handling. Mine does. Yes,
> it's based originally on his code, but it's no longer his design. We
> call this an improvement over the original idea. Read up on patents
> sometime. Same idea.

**** in hell what a rant! And
considering you almost had me convinced
earlier that this 10yrs old stuff was
of no significance to you. *ROFL*

>
> If you can still call toms and mine the same thing even after the fact
> one doesn't work outside the librarys own routines and the other
> doesn't work with them, but works independently, then you can call me
> a code ripper, if you like.

Plageiarise someone elses library
then pretend it's all your own work
then I think the name fits you well,
you back peddling tard.

>
>
> Now, if you really want to play code ripper games, everybody else
> besides the first person who wrote "Hello World" is a code ripper.
> Everybody who uses someone elses library functions, sophos, avg, you
> guys here me? , to 4Q we're all code rippers!

*HAHAH* Stupid smoke screen to hide
your embarrassment.

>
>
>
> And before you try tearing me to pieces in usenet, you best brush up
> on programming. String scanners and checksum based scanning are/is two
> entirely different technologies. Offly sad that you couldn't tell the
> difference.

I never gave a flying **** about your
16bit BugHuckster till yesterday. Now
I'm up for the challenge.


>
> Oh, btw 4Q, yes, I stalled getting your shell accounts to you, They've
> been online for 2 weeks now. *grin*.

You are either a liar or playing out
some kind of sociopathic loser trait.
I think we will have to get this into
you biography webpage... maybe I can
get some clues from Rhonda what it
feels like to be ****ed around by a
you a personality disordered mental.

Btw you weren't the only person I
asked about shell accounts. I even
asked MGL if I could run my infobot
on his server years ago... I even
sent him the code (ask him if he
will give you a copy -- real code,
not 16bit BASIC ****). Incidently I
can run the infobot via this HOST.SK
shell... Wasn't it nice of MGL to
set me up with the fourq site )

> I did lose the bet tho, I
> expected you would blow up and switch sides 3 weeks ago. hehehe.

Listen to yourself loser... Are you
sniggering in your mum basement
typing that out?

>You are, indeed, predictable. You can understand of course why HHI
> wouldn't want to help you now, right?

You are playing a little game in your
head that only you seem to be able to
understand.


> You can't be trusted with anything.

You are mouthing this out infront of
a mirror aren't you.

It's been fascinating observing you
over the years. I hope people will
appreciate my litle contribution to
show you off as an twisted exhibit.
Don't forget I still have the IRC
logs where you talk about having a
fantasy shoot out with the FBI,
telling me they wouldn't take you
alive. How ****ing childish can a
lame 16bit BASIC coder be.


4Q

[4Q]

Dustin Cook wrote:
> On Feb 19, 5:09 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> > Dustin Cook wrote:
> > > On Feb 19, 4:05 pm, Laura Fredericks <anonom...@CLOTHEShotmail.com>

<snip> Well I think I answer most of
this childish crap of your in my
last post. You are welcome to lookup
the individuals I indicated and ask
them for code I have written. But
one of the main reasons I don't
let *******s like you have any of my
code is down to anonymity and
preventing profilers try to get an
upper hand... after all everyone
can see that you Dustin Cook are
a **** programming and haven't
advanced beyond BASIC with some
very old Int86 calls... Now you
just look like a fool.


4Q

p.s. I'm getting back to the database
I told you about in email recently
and uploading your biography page...
so if you want some immediate tittle
tattle replies you'll just have to
make do with looking at my dissection
of you over on

http://fourq.host.sk/chars/Dustin_Cook/

cya later loser.


> > > wrote:
> > > > Lol. How 'bout holding a sign that says, "Above a monkey". j/k Or
> > > > better yet, "I Rock" -- lmao!
> >
> > > Will a bowl do? I intend to fire up one when I get home!
> >
> > > Free shot at me 4q, c'mon... I just admitted I smoke.. weed!
> >
> > Man, you told me you had your Monster Truck up on two wheels, after
> > smoking weeds, years ago... this isn't news!
> >
> > And when you were pissed scared after
> > being pulled by the cops in possession
> > of weed... old news.
> >
> > > (this isn't actually news, but.. for those just tuning in).. <g>
> >
> > See above.
> >
> >
> >
> > > > <cheap spelling flame>
> > > > It's "****wit". One t.
> > > > </cheap spelling flame>
> >
> > > hehe... my bad.. my bad.
> >
> > > You know, I don't really have any problems with 4Q, I figure it's just
> > > my turn for target practice...
> >
> > *awww* that's sweet, and I don't
> > really have any problems with you
> > either (pins up target), I respect
> > you as a BASIC coder, the Int86
> > calls and prepender virus just add
> > extra kudos.
>
> basic coder? Oh yes, 10 year old source codes...
> I write in other languages too.. ehh. assembler, foxtran (hehehe,
> anything to complain about?), some scripting like languages for old
> bbs systems... lets see, various dialects of basic from cp/m to
> win9x... Ah hell, why bother listing them?
>
> 4Q, why is it we've never seen any code from you? I mean, nothing, no
> code whatsoever.
>
> > Let us be the judge of that.
>
> Your doing great so far. Have you figured out the difference between a
> string scanner algorithm, and a checksumming one yet? The reason I ask
> is because its an important difference between the two. And I think if
> your going to attack me here on usenet, you probably should know wtf
> your talking about first. It'll save me some time having to teach you.
>
> > Yeah, but we'd never have figured
> > you for a kid on Usenet with all
> > your mature dialog!
>
> Let's not even compare each other in this category. I don't host a
> site thats sole purpose is trashing people. It's ehh, very mature..
> yes... /scarasm.
>
> > This had better not be the picture
> > of the spotty teenager from
> > trailerpark trash site!
>
> *yawn*. it'll be me. a newer picture.
>
> >
> >
> > > The nearest trailerpark is 12 miles from my house. I live in a two
> > > story building, that is owned by my stepdad. The 1st floor is what I
> > > call my dungeon.
> >
> > Read, lives with his mum and
> > has a room in the basement.
>
> Read what I wrote, not what you *think* I wrote. It's a big house, and
> my dungeon is not a room in the basement. I could park 3 fullsize
> chevy vans in one of the rooms consisting of my dungeon, kiddo.
>
> I suppose I'll take a few pics, don't mind the messy clothes and
> stuff, as you're going to keep up with this assinine behavior of
> yours.
>
> > > Dungeon is my smoking den, computer lab, car parts storage.. ehh,
> > > whatever it is i'm tinkering with.
> >
> > A real teenagers den. Do you have
> > a big poster of your favorite pop
> > singer over your bed?
>
> Pop Singer? didn't read Bughunter's documentation either huh? Lemme
> get it for you:
>
> I would also like to thank the following bands for providing much of
> the
> music I've been listening to as I work to update this program.
>
> Clutch
> Dope
> Alice In Chains
> Metallica
> AC/DC
> GodSmack
> The Charlie Daniels Band
> Led Zeppelin
> Megadeth
> Korn
>
> You don't know anything about music either, huh?
>
> Find me the pop singers in that mix.. heheheh
>
> A teenagers den? Strange. I have a computer lab at the house,
> consisting of a small network of low end by todays standards
> computers, parts, networking equipment, some tools, some entertainment
> devices (tv in each dungeon room, complete with HDTV, dvd player (divx/
> xvid!) etc...), old school pioneer stereo (it's in a wooden cabinet).
> Lemme see.. Oh yes, my authentic 1927 rca radio that still works!
> It's shortwave if your interested.
>
> Very teenager like things, yes? LOL!

[pcbutts1]

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"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171918422.731560.81790@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 19, 2:16 am, owowa.zeppe...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Feb 18, 11:26 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Dustin Cook wrote:
>> > > "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote in
>> > >news:1171850573.103492.57950@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>> > <snip>
>>
>> > > > A man of your word, aye ;]]
>> > > > No photo. Did you send Laura
>> > > > your photo or can she assume your
>> > > > words are worthless?
>>
>> > > A photo is forthcoming 4Q, and yes, I give you permission to host it
>> > > unmodified if you'd like.
>>
>> > Stop gas-bagging about sending it and
>> > send it. I've been looking forward to
>> > a good laugh... I started to suspect
>> > you hadn't found a picture off
>> > uglymugs.com or trailerpark trash
>> > and that was the delay.
>>
>> > <snip>
>>
>> > > 4Q, can't you find something more recent? eheh... Sheesh.
>>
>> > I'm sure it will be posted to ACVSC
>> > now that a flag has been raised ;]]
>>
>> > > The last one is especially silly, man..
>>
>> > > Date: 1997/07/23
>> > > Message-ID: <33d6015...@nova.zianet.com>#1/1
>> > > X-Deja-AN: 259547767
>> > > Organization: Southwest Cyberport
>> > > Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus.source.code
>>
>> > > I forgot to include the critical error handler which rustybug needs
>> > > Its an .obj file, linked in during compile.
>>
>> > > It's assembler... Are you going to make fun of my sloppy almost 10
>> > > year
>> > > old assembler routines too? *grin*
>>
>> > Are you sure the original author
>> > (Charon Software) of this code is going to mind you taking credit for
>> > writing it,,, MrCoderipper?
>>
>> > Anyone wanting to look inside this
>> > snippet can boot up something like
>> > Knoppix and run uudecode... then use
>> > a Hexedit to see if 'Charon Sofware'
>> > minds our BugHuckster Raidy taking
>> > credit for their work ;]]
>>
>> > 4Q (The AV turncoat's official biographer)
>>
>> >http://fourq.host.sk/chars/Dustin_Co...sk/chars/Raid/
>>
>> > updated!
>>
>> Now I am cornfused! I thought Dustin was all over pcbutts like a
>> cheap suit over using intellectual property of another individual.
>> Are you suggesting pcbutts *IS* Dustin?
>
> pcbutts real identity is known, as is mine. We aren't even close to
> being the same person. If your going to troll, Might I suggest a
> better leader?
>
>> What a star lippy-man has hitched his wagon (the one he is draggin?)
>> to...
>
> Likewise...
>
>

[pcbutts1]

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"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171922604.959362.153050@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 19, 4:17 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> > On Feb 18, 11:26 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Dustin Cook wrote:
>> > > > "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote in
>> > > >news:1171850573.103492.57950@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> > > > It's assembler... Are you going to make fun of my sloppy almost 10
>> > > > year
>> > > > old assembler routines too? *grin*
>>
>> <hold that thought>
>>
>> > ...It's no secret that the
>> > criterror routine was taken in part from Ibrary v2.0 written by Thomas
>> > Hanlin
>>
>> *HAHA* One minute it's *your* assembler, next we find out that the
>> code belongs to Thomas Hanlin and you mearly tlib'd his work then
>> pretended you wrote it. You are a deceptive little AV turd.
>
> Actually, no. some of the code belongs to thomas, some is mine. This
> is all actually common knowledge, I'm surprised you didn't know. I
> made no effort to hide where the code came from when I was using it
> years ago, writing.. lame self replicating programs that nobody wanted
> then, and nobody wants now.
>
> Since you didn't bother to show the differences between the original
> and mine, it's a safe bet you really don't have even that little
> amount of coding skill. When you mentioned someone should use a
> debugger, you didn't actually mean you did ya?
>
> unlike yourself tho, I don't live in the fantasy world that Vx is the
> begin/ending of all, I grew up.... One day, you will too.
>
>> <snip>
>>
>> > The only dirt your going to be thrashing about is 10+ year old code,
>> > way over, done, nobody cares.
>>
>> Now everyone knows you have been
>> caught with your pants down, pretending
>> you wrote Hanlin's library function.
>> Accussing PCButts of ripping then
>> calling Mandragore and Vecna code
>> rippers (proof please). You ****tard
>> turncoat.
>
> Caught with my pants down? 4Q, your making a big deal about 10 year
> old code.. 10 years ago man.. hehehe.
> I didn't pretend to write anything, hanlins function isn't the same
> thing that I posted years ago. Their are differences between them.
> more than tlibbing I'm afraid.
>
> I didn't call vecna or mandragore anything, I used it as a reference
> point. Vecna and mandragore both at some point read others code,
> studied it, modified it, and learned from it. As most programmers do.
> We didn't actually call this code ripping then. And nobody really
> thinks of it as code ripping now, except for.. you apparently. with
> regard to myself, and none of the others.
>
> You've also been making some assinine claims which painfully tell me
> what little programming skill you actually possess on your own. No
> wonder I never saw anything from you when I was active vx, you
> couldn't code anything then, and you haven't bothered to learn
> anything now?
>
> 1. BugHunter doesn't use string scanning.
> 2. I am not antivirus, BugHunter does not search for viruses.
> 3. The best you can come at me with is 10 year old code that I didn't
> author entirely by myself. Wow!
> 4. Even after telling you the files are different, you couldn't find
> out how. You assumed wrongly, again, that I just tlibbed it. You
> really should take an assembler dump of the file, since the hex editor
> isn't helping you.
> 5. You will not find any reference using a hex editor to any Charon
> Software in that object file. What you will find is ibrary code
> comments start and end, which I did preserve. the code however in the
> middle that actually does the work, is not the same as his. His
> routine was originally designed only for the ibrary internal
> functions. It's not even a routine available thru the library that you
> could call. I took that apart, and made a stand alone int24h handler
> out of it, which is what the obj file I posted is. Tom Hanlins is
> integrated into the library, can only be accessed by it's own routines
> and does nothing to help you with crit error handling. Mine does. Yes,
> it's based originally on his code, but it's no longer his design. We
> call this an improvement over the original idea. Read up on patents
> sometime. Same idea.
>
> If you can still call toms and mine the same thing even after the fact
> one doesn't work outside the librarys own routines and the other
> doesn't work with them, but works independently, then you can call me
> a code ripper, if you like.
>
>
> Now, if you really want to play code ripper games, everybody else
> besides the first person who wrote "Hello World" is a code ripper.
> Everybody who uses someone elses library functions, sophos, avg, you
> guys here me? , to 4Q we're all code rippers!
>
>
>
> And before you try tearing me to pieces in usenet, you best brush up
> on programming. String scanners and checksum based scanning are/is two
> entirely different technologies. Offly sad that you couldn't tell the
> difference.
>
> Oh, btw 4Q, yes, I stalled getting your shell accounts to you, They've
> been online for 2 weeks now. *grin*. I did lose the bet tho, I
> expected you would blow up and switch sides 3 weeks ago. hehehe. You
> are, indeed, predictable. You can understand of course why HHI
> wouldn't want to help you now, right? You can't be trusted with
> anything.
>
>
>