My final thoughts on the matter, until you publish the disassembly of
BugHunter you have promised.
If this is reposted, my apologies
"4Q" <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in
news:1171928804.972844.318980@v45g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com:
> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> On Feb 19, 5:09 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dustin Cook wrote:
>> > > On Feb 19, 4:05 pm, Laura Fredericks
>> > > <anonom...@CLOTHEShotmail.com>
>
> <snip> Well I think I answer most of
> this childish crap of your in my
> last post. You are welcome to lookup
> the individuals I indicated and ask
> them for code I have written. But
> one of the main reasons I don't
> let *******s like you have any of my
> code is down to anonymity and
> preventing profilers try to get an
> upper hand... after all everyone
> can see that you Dustin Cook are
> a **** programming and haven't
> advanced beyond BASIC with some
> very old Int86 calls... Now you
> just look like a fool.
Tsk Tsk 4Q, I Dustin Cook know the difference between a checksummer
and a string scanner...I have no real desire to go looking for
code you may (but most likely didn't) have authored. After all, we'd
have no way of knowing it was actually yours... Based on various
mistakes you've made with myself and others who ehh, actually can/do
code, It's a good bet you aren't a coder. Seriously, you just talk
**** man, nothing more, nothing less. This is just another example of
it. I asked you actual questions, you couldn't answer any of them.
You couldn't even backup your silly claim of Charon Software being
visible with a hex editor in an almost 10 year old post on usenet for
some code that isn't even used anymore. Tip: Don't rely on anonymous
email to try and get some dirt on me, they're bound to trip you up.
> 4Q
>
> p.s. I'm getting back to the database
> I told you about in email recently
> and uploading your biography page...
> so if you want some immediate tittle
> tattle replies you'll just have to
> make do with looking at my dissection
> of you over on
Nah, I'm done playing with you thanks. You can be amusing at times. I
suppose it's a good thing Ross still likes you, nobody else would host
you. *grin* The past is a funny thing isn't it 4Q....? We both have
one...
Do you know what the main difference between us 10 years later is tho
my friend? 10 years is a long time to *still* be unable to produce
code when asked man (heh) One of us graduated past wasting time....
> http://fourq.host.sk/chars/Dustin_Cook/
>
> cya later loser.
it like the AUK awards are an honor. Thank You.
--
Dustin Cook
Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - V2.1
web: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk - email:
bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis
"4Q" <paul_zest@hushmail.com> wrote in
news:1171927763.534325.88510@k78g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> On Feb 19, 4:17 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dustin Cook wrote:
>> > > On Feb 18, 11:26 pm, "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Dustin Cook wrote:
>> > > > > "4Q" <paul_z...@hushmail.com> wrote in
>> > > > >news:1171850573.103492.57950@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com:
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >
>> > > > > It's assembler... Are you going to make fun of my sloppy
>> > > > > almost 10 year old assembler routines too? *grin*
>> >
>> > <hold that thought>
>> >
>> > > ...It's no secret that the
>> > > criterror routine was taken in part from Ibrary v2.0 written by
>> > > Thomas Hanlin
>> >
>> > *HAHA* One minute it's *your* assembler, next we find out that the
>> > code belongs to Thomas Hanlin and you mearly tlib'd his work then
>> > pretended you wrote it. You are a deceptive little AV turd.
>>
>> Actually, no. some of the code belongs to thomas, some is mine. This
>> is all actually common knowledge, I'm surprised you didn't know.
>
> And yet anyone reading what you wrote
> would be led to believe you wrote it.
> You obviously didn't expect someone to
> take a quick look at the ASIC l'ibrary.
Hmm, strange. when I initially published it in vx circles, everyone
else knew it wasn't all my code. Nobody told you? *shock*
Theirs probably all kinds of things you don't know. Many discussions
took place which you won't find on usenet archives, non coder.
a quick look? Hmm, mind telling me the offset in the criterr.obj I
posted 10 years ago the string "Charon Software" begins? *grin*
Have I caught you in a lie 4Q? Hmmm... HMMMMMmmm... hehehe.
>>I made no effort to hide where the code came from when I was using it
>> years ago, writing.. lame self replicating programs that nobody
>> wanted then, and nobody wants now.
>
> You don't want now! It's hard to escape
> your past and for everyone to see that
> you really aren't much of a coder
> beyond simple DOS codes.
See above.
simple DOS codes... say, the ones between a string scanner and a
checksummer mebbe? If i'm not much of a coder, and I know the
difference between them, and you don't, what exactly does this make
you?
>
>> Since you didn't bother to show the differences between the original
>> and mine, it's a safe bet you really don't have even that little
>> amount of coding skill. When you mentioned someone should use a
>> debugger, you didn't actually mean you did ya?
>
> Well since I only downloaded IBRARY yesterday and Linux doesn't come
> with a 16bit DOS debugger it's hardly
> surprising I haven't debugged it yet.
> But now that I feel the challenge has
> been laid down, you can expect to see
> Bughunter source code published.
At which offset does the string "Charon Software" begin in the
criterr.obj file I posted 10 years ago?
kiddo.
Another lie? *grin*
I'm honored that you would spend the required time to disassemble
BugHunter and publish your findings. I await your results.
You will finally! produce code.. since it's my code, I'll know if you
know what your doing or not. Assuming you don't, say, cheat and have
someone else, who is a coder, do it for you... you wouldn't do that
tho, right?
>> unlike yourself tho, I don't live in the fantasy world that Vx is the
>> begin/ending of all, I grew up.... One day, you will too.
>
> Well let's see what falls out in
> your webpage biography.
Oh, but the code will be much more interesting. A true test of your
skill.
> You are taking this 10yr old piece of
> **** coding to heart. I do hope Bughuckster you've improved over a
> 10yr
> period... alas I think we will be sadly
> disappointed and see the same old ****
> (which is your level of coding unfortunately).
>> I didn't pretend to write anything, hanlins function isn't the same
>> thing that I posted years ago. Their are differences between them.
>> more than tlibbing I'm afraid.
>
> You sound rattled. You made some
> remark giving everyone the idea this
> was all your own work and after a few
> hours someone digs up IBRARY off the
> net and sees the code you was claiming
> to be yours full of IBRARY references.
full of? HAHAHAHAHA, You really didn't check did you? It has 3 mebbe 4
ascii text strings as references only, not much code is still
originally ibrary. and the root of the code, if you want to be
nitpicky (I guess who ever helped you, either forgot or did this on
purpose, the disassembled code is a int24h handler. That's all. The
ibrary code isn't what you'd call original either. *hahahahaha*. The
ass of this joke, apparently, is you.
> I smell bull**** backpeddling.
See above. laugh as I do.
>
>>
>> You've also been making some assinine claims which painfully tell me
>> what little programming skill you actually possess on your own. No
>> wonder I never saw anything from you when I was active vx, you
>> couldn't code anything then, and you haven't bothered to learn
>> anything now?
>
> Really, you still haven't found
> anything? And yet my work still
> manages to make it into virus
> databases. I take it you never
Dude, so do trojans. *grin*
>> 1. BugHunter doesn't use string scanning.
>
> *Who ****ing really cares?!* I only
> don't loaded your **** yesterday,
> I've not even opened it with a hex
> editor let alone a debugger.
Admittance of error, noted.
>> 2. I am not antivirus, BugHunter does not search for viruses.
>
> Check your database you lying ****.
> And when were worms excluded from
> from the AV prodcts? Arsehole.
You seem to be confused on what exactly BugHunter is for. very few
worms are in the database.
>
>> 3. The best you can come at me with is 10 year old code that I didn't
>> author entirely by myself. Wow!
>
> You won't release the source code to
> BugHunter because everyone knows it
> will just be more **** by someone who
> can't raise his game above BASIC with
> a couple of Int86 calls.... how many
> years ago should you have stopped using
> this crap, 10-15? really lame and sad.
I guess we'll see when you get it debugged and post the source code,
or was it a hollow threat?
>
>> 4. Even after telling you the files are different, you couldn't find
>> out how. You assumed wrongly, again, that I just tlibbed it. You
>> really should take an assembler dump of the file, since the hex
>> editor isn't helping you.
>
> Sourcer on standby ;]]
>
>> 5. You will not find any reference using a hex editor to any Charon
>> Software in that object file. What you will find is ibrary code
>> comments start and end, which I did preserve.
>
> Yeah, and they come back to haunt you.
> You should have removed any trace of
> IBRARY if you wanted to claim it was
> all your own work at the outset (before
> someone bubbled you -- that would be me)
bubbled me? Wait, you don't have a text editor, but you have bubble on
linux? How.. interesting. The bubble program I have is dos based.
The point , well, two really, is one, you didn't find any such Charon
Software nonsense, laugh laugh. 2nd, you don't know what your looking
at, if you did, you'd see the original ibrary code is essentially
"ripped" as a standard int24h handler. Mine is very similiar. I
already posted the other differences between the two. In fact,
everybody who wrote an int24h handler after the first one is a code
ripper, according to you.
4Q, really, if your going to attack me on a code level, you'd be well
served to know what the hell your talking about, before you hit post.
> **** in hell what a rant! And
> considering you almost had me convinced
> earlier that this 10yrs old stuff was
> of no significance to you. *ROFL*
It isn't. It is to you, apparently. It's the base of your attack.
> Plageiarise someone elses library
> then pretend it's all your own work
> then I think the name fits you well,
> you back peddling tard.
Again, I can't resist but to point out a simple fallacy on your part,
ibrary's code is plaguarized as well. The code is *drum roll*, an
int24h handler. If you've ever actually coded something viral, you
probably stole it from one of us. *grin*. Really man, you should have
done more than look at ascii strings... You know what you little ****,
if you actually did bubble it, you'd have seen it was a simple int24h
handler... You didn't mention this.. One of two possibilities, you
didn't know (ie: you either lied about bubbling it, or heh, you really
can't read assembler) or you just didn't want to mention it because it
really puts a damper on the entire argument. So, which is it?
The more you post, the more I'm finding you didn't know. Come to think
of it, your a bit ignorant regarding certain Vx things about myself
and others. mistake one, assuming I only code in Basic. Bad.. very
bad... I was coding in asm/asic since day 1. <g>
CyberYoda, yes, another Vxer who doesn't like you, knows this, as does
vecna, and alot of others, and yes, some of them do have my assembler
source codes for very simple things. (a little program that would
change it's physical appearance everytime it wrote to disk), and I bet
you don't have the source... hehe, You don't have alot of my sources,
because I didn't publish them all.
Talking **** again 4Q!
>>
>>
>> Now, if you really want to play code ripper games, everybody else
>> besides the first person who wrote "Hello World" is a code ripper.
>> Everybody who uses someone elses library functions, sophos, avg, you
>> guys here me?
>
> *HAHAH* Stupid smoke screen to hide
> your embarrassment.
Smoke screen? Disassemble the criterr.obj file, then.
>>
>>
>>
>> And before you try tearing me to pieces in usenet, you best brush up
>> on programming. String scanners and checksum based scanning are/is
>> two entirely different technologies. Offly sad that you couldn't tell
>> the difference.
>
> I never gave a flying **** about your
> 16bit BugHuckster till yesterday. Now
> I'm up for the challenge.
Until yesterday? Just what was your initial motivation for the assault
anyhow? Do you really think the 16bit aspect is important considering
what it's designed to do?
>
>>
>> Oh, btw 4Q, yes, I stalled getting your shell accounts to you,
>> They've been online for 2 weeks now. *grin*.
>
> You are either a liar or playing out
> some kind of sociopathic loser trait.
> I think we will have to get this into
> you biography webpage... maybe I can
> get some clues from Rhonda what it
> feels like to be ****ed around by a
> you a personality disordered mental.
Neither I'm afraid. HHI is also well known, non coder.
> Btw you weren't the only person I
> asked about shell accounts. I even
> asked MGL if I could run my infobot
> on his server years ago... I even
> sent him the code (ask him if he
> will give you a copy -- real code,
> not 16bit BASIC ****). Incidently I
> can run the infobot via this HOST.SK
Oh, what a script?
own.
> shell... Wasn't it nice of MGL to
> set me up with the fourq site
Yea, you've been ****canned from so many other servers for nothing
more than a general nuisance. You should be so proud.
> Listen to yourself loser... Are you
> sniggering in your mum basement
> typing that out?
ohhh.. we're good now. loser... I'm so offended, really.
>>You are, indeed, predictable. You can understand of course why HHI
>> wouldn't want to help you now, right?
>
> You are playing a little game in your
> head that only you seem to be able to
> understand.
4Q, non coder, mr wannabe data archivist, HHI isn't a little game..
the audio/video scene loves us. <g>
Talking more ****....Ah well, it's not like you ever did anything of
any note for either side. Except your commentary, of course.
> It's been fascinating observing you
> over the years. I hope people will
I've had a blast as well, 4Q.
--
Dustin Cook
Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - V2.1
web: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk - email:
bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis
Laura Fredericks <anonomiss@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in news:
7a4kt2hrkf02ache4nfus34ncahvum9450@4ax.com:
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> On 19 Feb 2007 10:02:25 -0800, "Dustin Cook"
> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in post to 4Q:
>>I am a registered user of the library and according to it's own
>>documentation, I'm welcome to do with it as I wish.
>
> Didn't Dimbulb say this, too? LMFAO! (Whoops.)
I know your not a programmer, so you wouldn't have known. However, the
code in question, the code I supposedly stole, is a simple int24h
handler, the same functions, in the same order can be found in
assembler programming books, vx ezines, etc... hehehe.. Nobody really
took anything from anyone else if you want to get to the actual code.
Is it really as amusing when you find out the ripped code is the same
stuff published in old assembler for dos books, and in various dos
viruses, some dos tsrs, and well, just about everything that needed
one?
> I now expect to see the return of Dimbulb to acv, quoting the above
> as "proof" that if the great Raid, et al can do it, it must be okay.
I do hope he remembers to quote this as well. *grin*
--
Dustin Cook
Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - V2.1
web: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk - email:
bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis
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