IE6 mem usage and virtual memory grows and grows until crash

[watsupwithIE6@somehelppleez.org]

At about the 200 mg or mem mark my IE6 just ceases to open new pages.
The right click menu won't open, and even Task Manager won't open, or if it
does, I can't see the entire window.

Obviously the system is low on memory at that point. I've tried running
Hijackthis and did some spyware scans. Nothing unusual shows up.

I just wait a moment, close any running exe files, open task manager, and
close the remaining IExplore.exe (which is in the correct directory btw.)


I'm wondering if the Spybot BHO or SiteAdvisor's BHO is causing a problem.
SiteAdvisor also has an O18 Protocol loading, and an O4 executable file
loading. That little important piece of freeware is becoming a pain ever
since McAfee bought it. The first versions didn't load that much in the
registry. Now it first takes you to their nag ad page before you can check
on a site.

Is the O16 Windows Genuine Genuine Advantage Validation Tool necessary, or
can I use Hijackthis to delete it?

Any solutions (excuse the crosspost but I thought that the more the merrier
who contribute an answer).

[Duane Arnold]

<watsupwithIE6@somehelppleez.org> wrote in message
news:jOmdnVdfJvXhshHYnZ2dnUVZ_q-vnZ2d@giganews.com...
> At about the 200 mg or mem mark my IE6 just ceases to open new pages.
> The right click menu won't open, and even Task Manager won't open, or if
> it
> does, I can't see the entire window.
>
> Obviously the system is low on memory at that point. I've tried running
> Hijackthis and did some spyware scans. Nothing unusual shows up.
>
> I just wait a moment, close any running exe files, open task manager, and
> close the remaining IExplore.exe (which is in the correct directory btw.)
>
>
> I'm wondering if the Spybot BHO or SiteAdvisor's BHO is causing a problem.
> SiteAdvisor also has an O18 Protocol loading, and an O4 executable file
> loading. That little important piece of freeware is becoming a pain ever
> since McAfee bought it. The first versions didn't load that much in the
> registry. Now it first takes you to their nag ad page before you can
> check
> on a site.
>
> Is the O16 Windows Genuine Genuine Advantage Validation Tool necessary, or
> can I use Hijackthis to delete it?
>
> Any solutions (excuse the crosspost but I thought that the more the
> merrier
> who contribute an answer).
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...mt/sm0504.mspx

[watsupwithIE6@somehelppleez.org]

"Duane Arnold" <Yeah-Don't-bother-@that's-right.BET> wrote in
news:RnWih.5754$X72.1141@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net:

>
> <watsupwithIE6@somehelppleez.org> wrote in message
> news:jOmdnVdfJvXhshHYnZ2dnUVZ_q-vnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> At about the 200 mg or mem mark my IE6 just ceases to open new pages.
>> The right click menu won't open, and even Task Manager won't open, or
>> if it
>> does, I can't see the entire window.
>>
>> Obviously the system is low on memory at that point. I've tried
>> running Hijackthis and did some spyware scans. Nothing unusual shows
>> up.
>>
>> I just wait a moment, close any running exe files, open task manager,
>> and close the remaining IExplore.exe (which is in the correct
>> directory btw.)
>>
>>
>> I'm wondering if the Spybot BHO or SiteAdvisor's BHO is causing a
>> problem. SiteAdvisor also has an O18 Protocol loading, and an O4
>> executable file loading. That little important piece of freeware is
>> becoming a pain ever since McAfee bought it. The first versions
>> didn't load that much in the registry. Now it first takes you to
>> their nag ad page before you can check
>> on a site.
>>
>> Is the O16 Windows Genuine Genuine Advantage Validation Tool
>> necessary, or can I use Hijackthis to delete it?
>>
>> Any solutions (excuse the crosspost but I thought that the more the
>> merrier
>> who contribute an answer).
>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...mt/sm0504.mspx
>
>
>

The article states:




>The only way to clean a compromised system is to flatten and
rebuild. That’s right. If you have a system that has been completely
compromised, the only thing you can do is to flatten the system (reformat
the system disk) and rebuild it from scratch (reinstall Windows and your
applications). Alternatively, you could of course work on your resume
instead, but I don’t want to see you doing that.<


What makes you think my system has been hacked or compromised?

[Mr. Arnold]

watsupwithIE6@somehelppleez.org wrote:
> "Duane Arnold" <Yeah-Don't-bother-@that's-right.BET> wrote in
> news:RnWih.5754$X72.1141@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net:
>
>
>><watsupwithIE6@somehelppleez.org> wrote in message
>>news:jOmdnVdfJvXhshHYnZ2dnUVZ_q-vnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>>>At about the 200 mg or mem mark my IE6 just ceases to open new pages.
>>>The right click menu won't open, and even Task Manager won't open, or
>>>if it
>>>does, I can't see the entire window.
>>>
>>>Obviously the system is low on memory at that point. I've tried
>>>running Hijackthis and did some spyware scans. Nothing unusual shows
>>>up.
>>>
>>>I just wait a moment, close any running exe files, open task manager,
>>>and close the remaining IExplore.exe (which is in the correct
>>>directory btw.)
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm wondering if the Spybot BHO or SiteAdvisor's BHO is causing a
>>>problem. SiteAdvisor also has an O18 Protocol loading, and an O4
>>>executable file loading. That little important piece of freeware is
>>>becoming a pain ever since McAfee bought it. The first versions
>>>didn't load that much in the registry. Now it first takes you to
>>>their nag ad page before you can check
>>>on a site.
>>>
>>>Is the O16 Windows Genuine Genuine Advantage Validation Tool
>>>necessary, or can I use Hijackthis to delete it?
>>>
>>>Any solutions (excuse the crosspost but I thought that the more the
>>>merrier
>>>who contribute an answer).
>>>
>>
>>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...mt/sm0504.mspx
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> The article states:
>
>
>
>
> >The only way to clean a compromised system is to flatten and
> rebuild. That’s right. If you have a system that has been completely
> compromised, the only thing you can do is to flatten the system (reformat
> the system disk) and rebuild it from scratch (reinstall Windows and your
> applications). Alternatively, you could of course work on your resume
> instead, but I don’t want to see you doing that.<
>
>
> What makes you think my system has been hacked or compromised?
>
>

Do you think that all of a sudden all the problems you're having with
your computer with things not working or going out of control, that it
has not been compromised as you click on everything under the Sun with
the happy fingers? The problems you're having just don't start
happening out of the clear blue sky.

If you can't find a fix and you may not find one or you do find a fix
and it was due to malware, then can you trust the machine anymore?

[watsupwithIE6@somehelppleez.org]

"Mr. Arnold" <Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in news:1ZYih.2743$w91.1248
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

> If you can't find a fix and you may not find one or you do find a fix
> and it was due to malware, then can you trust the machine anymore?

So you're saying that there's no reason to buy AV or anti-spyware programs
because even if they catch something and fix the problem, you still can't
trust the machine.


What's the point of Windows Defender, Spybot S&D, Ad-Aware, Spy Sweeper and
all the rest then?


Your logic seems to contradict the rest of the industry.

[Mr. Arnold]

watsupwithIE6@somehelppleez.org wrote:
> "Mr. Arnold" <Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in news:1ZYih.2743$w91.1248
> @newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
>
>>If you can't find a fix and you may not find one or you do find a fix
>>and it was due to malware, then can you trust the machine anymore?
>
>
> So you're saying that there's no reason to buy AV or anti-spyware programs
> because even if they catch something and fix the problem, you still can't
> trust the machine.

Why don't practice safehex and try to avoid it in the first place? An
ounce of prevention goes a long way.

http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html

And you read the other MS article didn't you?

Anything that runs with the O/S such as programs like AV's and
anti-spyware can be fooled, circumvented and defeated just like the O/S
can have it happen to it, because they are written by fallible Human
Beings. We are not infallible so nothing we do is infallible. If it hits
the machine and is executed, it's too late, you don't know what else
has been laid down on the computer.
>
>
> What's the point of Windows Defender, Spybot S&D, Ad-Aware, Spy Sweeper and
> all the rest then?

What's the point of not being aware of what can happen, if you don't
know that it can happen? You depend upon such snake-oil other than the
AV, which can be defeated too, to tell you it's ok and they fix what
they can find, which every last bit of it can be fooled, circumvented
and defeated.

>
>
> Your logic seems to contradict the rest of the industry.

In the link I provided in the other post and the link I am providing
now, it's MS talking to you.

Long
http://www.windowsecurity.com/articl...vironment.html

Short
http://************/klw1

You present serious problems with memory being sucked up, you can't use
Task Manager, multiple IE(s) running, you can't find it, and the
snake-oil can't find it, etc, etc. Again, it just doesn't happen out of
the clear blue sky and out of nowhere. Can you trust the machine at that
point, even if you are able to find something?

What can I say?

I am just the messenger.

[Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM]

<watsupwithIE6@somehelppleez.org> wrote in message
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> "Mr. Arnold" <Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in news:1ZYih.2743$w91.1248
> @newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
>> If you can't find a fix and you may not find one or you do find a fix
>> and it was due to malware, then can you trust the machine anymore?
>
> So you're saying that there's no reason to buy AV or anti-spyware programs
> because even if they catch something and fix the problem, you still can't
> trust the machine.
>
> What's the point of Windows Defender, Spybot S&D, Ad-Aware, Spy Sweeper
> and
> all the rest then?
>
> Your logic seems to contradict the rest of the industry.

Not at all. There is always new malware and if you don't practice safe
browsing you're apt to catch one. The programs you mention will catch what
they know about but will possibly miss something new, especially if you are
prone to downloading free stuff from sites that shouldn't be trusted.

And please don't use Follow-Up like that.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Answer in newsgroup. Don't send mail.