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    Civil liberties and transportation - and the new world

    Someone has taken the trouble to collect information on the various
    Transportation Surveillance systems, and what effect this will have on
    privacy. They are shooting for a 2022 rollout for the GPS/transponder
    installation requirement in new vehicles.

    Scary but a lot of good information

    http://www.permatopia.com/wetlands/spyroads.html

    Quoted: "license plate scanning ala the UK system"
    As her marked car crawled through the parking lot, Detective Kelly
    Tibbs' new laptop beeped like a supermarket scanner. Two cameras,
    positioned like crab eyes on the cruiser's roof, snapped digital
    pictures of hundreds of license plates, and with each beep, the laptop
    checked the images against an FBI list of stolen cars.

    Maryland Transportation Authority Police hope to add the cameras to
    the Bay Bridge as part of a pilot project with the U.S. Department of
    Justice.
    Stationary cameras, such as those envisioned for Baltimore and the Bay
    Bridge, could alert nearby officers if an offending vehicle - one
    bearing a license plate registered to a wanted criminal, suspected
    terrorist or car thief - goes past.
    "The uses are as limitless as your imagination," said Lt. John
    McKissick, director of Howard County's emergency preparedness
    division. "We're just in the infancy of this project, but already it
    saves us money and manpower."

    Quoted: GPS scanning
    The U.S. Department of Transportation has been handing millions of
    dollars to state governments for GPS-tracking pilot projects designed
    to track vehicles wherever they go. So far, Washington state and
    Oregon have received fat federal checks to figure out how to levy
    these "mileage-based road user fees."
    Now electronic tracking and taxing may be coming to a DMV near you.
    The Office of Transportation Policy Studies, part of the Federal
    Highway Administration, is about to announce another round of grants
    totaling some $11 million.

    One study prepared for the Transportation Department predicts a PR
    success. "Less than 7 percent of the respondents expressed concerns
    about recording their vehicle's movements," it says.
    That whiff of victory, coupled with a windfall of new GPS-enabled tax
    dollars, has emboldened DMV bureaucrats. A proposal from the Oregon
    DMV, also funded by the Transportation Department, says that such a
    tracking system should be mandatory for all "newly purchased vehicles
    and newly registered vehicles."

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  2. #2
    Midex Guest

    Re: Civil liberties and transportation - and the new world

    Yes well London has 1 security CCTV camera for every 14 people. The
    whole Underground train network is covered by CCTV right? Most of it
    yeh.
    And yet on 7/7/05 the only imagary we have ever seen of the bombers is
    a single STILL FRAME from Luton Station and yet none of the mainstream
    media ask "Where is the footage of the bombers", "Why have the
    authorities only shown us this one single image" and most conclusively
    "Why is this image of the 4 bombers entering Luton Station a
    photoshopped fake? "


    And amazingly Mr Default, are the people brain dead? Why does everyone
    believe the official story?


    default wrote:

    > Someone has taken the trouble to collect information on the various
    > Transportation Surveillance systems, and what effect this will have on
    > privacy. They are shooting for a 2022 rollout for the GPS/transponder
    > installation requirement in new vehicles.
    >
    > Scary but a lot of good information
    >
    > http://www.permatopia.com/wetlands/spyroads.html
    >
    > Quoted: "license plate scanning ala the UK system"
    > As her marked car crawled through the parking lot, Detective Kelly
    > Tibbs' new laptop beeped like a supermarket scanner. Two cameras,
    > positioned like crab eyes on the cruiser's roof, snapped digital
    > pictures of hundreds of license plates, and with each beep, the laptop
    > checked the images against an FBI list of stolen cars.
    >
    > Maryland Transportation Authority Police hope to add the cameras to
    > the Bay Bridge as part of a pilot project with the U.S. Department of
    > Justice.
    > Stationary cameras, such as those envisioned for Baltimore and the Bay
    > Bridge, could alert nearby officers if an offending vehicle - one
    > bearing a license plate registered to a wanted criminal, suspected
    > terrorist or car thief - goes past.
    > "The uses are as limitless as your imagination," said Lt. John
    > McKissick, director of Howard County's emergency preparedness
    > division. "We're just in the infancy of this project, but already it
    > saves us money and manpower."
    >
    > Quoted: GPS scanning
    > The U.S. Department of Transportation has been handing millions of
    > dollars to state governments for GPS-tracking pilot projects designed
    > to track vehicles wherever they go. So far, Washington state and
    > Oregon have received fat federal checks to figure out how to levy
    > these "mileage-based road user fees."
    > Now electronic tracking and taxing may be coming to a DMV near you.
    > The Office of Transportation Policy Studies, part of the Federal
    > Highway Administration, is about to announce another round of grants
    > totaling some $11 million.
    >
    > One study prepared for the Transportation Department predicts a PR
    > success. "Less than 7 percent of the respondents expressed concerns
    > about recording their vehicle's movements," it says.
    > That whiff of victory, coupled with a windfall of new GPS-enabled tax
    > dollars, has emboldened DMV bureaucrats. A proposal from the Oregon
    > DMV, also funded by the Transportation Department, says that such a
    > tracking system should be mandatory for all "newly purchased vehicles
    > and newly registered vehicles."
    >
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    default Guest

    Re: Civil liberties and transportation - and the new world

    On 1 Dec 2006 16:37:31 -0800, "Midex"
    <milliondollarexecutive@gmail.com> wrote:

    >Yes well London has 1 security CCTV camera for every 14 people. The
    >whole Underground train network is covered by CCTV right? Most of it
    >yeh.
    >And yet on 7/7/05 the only imagary we have ever seen of the bombers is
    >a single STILL FRAME from Luton Station and yet none of the mainstream
    >media ask "Where is the footage of the bombers", "Why have the
    >authorities only shown us this one single image" and most conclusively
    >"Why is this image of the 4 bombers entering Luton Station a
    >photoshopped fake? "
    >
    >
    >And amazingly Mr Default, are the people brain dead? Why does everyone
    >believe the official story?


    People believe what they want to believe - this must make the
    population feel safe.

    We are supposed to "go with the flow" and "don't make waves" Midex . .
    .. Same principle used when slaughtering animals.

    Our schools are designed to turn out unquestioning morons, learning is
    secondary to creating perfect citizens. Even when one is in violent
    opposition to something, one is expected to be almost apologetic in
    one's criticism.

    Most of what is taught in elementary and high school could be learned
    in several weeks by a naturally curious youngster - college is a
    little better and serves as the citizen finishing school.

    Civilization is playing out it's end game.

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    Midex Guest

    Re: Civil liberties and transportation - and the new world

    Well then get your rifle and start taking out the traitors. Cause its
    not going to get any better until we instill fear in the traitors. At
    present they are gloating with invincibility.

    We must use their own weapon against them. TERROR - but precise and
    direct assassinations of key traitors.

    Start with Tim Wilkinson of Sydney University.


    default wrote:

    > On 1 Dec 2006 16:37:31 -0800, "Midex"
    > <milliondollarexecutive@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > >Yes well London has 1 security CCTV camera for every 14 people. The
    > >whole Underground train network is covered by CCTV right? Most of it
    > >yeh.
    > >And yet on 7/7/05 the only imagary we have ever seen of the bombers is
    > >a single STILL FRAME from Luton Station and yet none of the mainstream
    > >media ask "Where is the footage of the bombers", "Why have the
    > >authorities only shown us this one single image" and most conclusively
    > >"Why is this image of the 4 bombers entering Luton Station a
    > >photoshopped fake? "
    > >
    > >
    > >And amazingly Mr Default, are the people brain dead? Why does everyone
    > >believe the official story?

    >
    > People believe what they want to believe - this must make the
    > population feel safe.
    >
    > We are supposed to "go with the flow" and "don't make waves" Midex . .
    > . Same principle used when slaughtering animals.
    >
    > Our schools are designed to turn out unquestioning morons, learning is
    > secondary to creating perfect citizens. Even when one is in violent
    > opposition to something, one is expected to be almost apologetic in
    > one's criticism.
    >
    > Most of what is taught in elementary and high school could be learned
    > in several weeks by a naturally curious youngster - college is a
    > little better and serves as the citizen finishing school.
    >
    > Civilization is playing out it's end game.
    >
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    default Guest

    Re: Civil liberties and transportation - and the new world

    On 9 Dec 2006 16:00:44 -0800, "Midex"
    <milliondollarexecutive@gmail.com> wrote:

    >Well then get your rifle and start taking out the traitors. Cause its
    >not going to get any better until we instill fear in the traitors. At
    >present they are gloating with invincibility.
    >
    >We must use their own weapon against them. TERROR - but precise and
    >direct assassinations of key traitors.
    >
    >Start with Tim Wilkinson of Sydney University.


    Your approach is too simplistic. Start killing people and they just
    up the difficulty by adding more "security." You can do more good by
    questioning authority then trying to kill it These idiots rise to
    power because too many people believe in their BS.

    Terror? We see how well that's worked for the Israelis and Arabs.

    Tim Wilkinson seems like a relatively benign unimportant figure.

    They may well be invincible in the context you mean - and the
    population doubles every 50 years - they are easily replaced.

    "Their" approach is overly simplistic also. Always treating the
    symptoms never the problems.

    Humans have to change.

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    Re: Civil liberties and transportation - and the new world

    On 9 Dec 2006 16:00:44 -0800, "Midex"
    <milliondollarexecutive@gmail.com> wrote:

    Oops

    You can do more good by questioning authority then trying to kill it.

    Should have been

    You can do more good by questioning authority than trying to kill it.

    One letter changes the entire meaning.

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