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    Dustin Cook Guest

    Re: UPDATE Re: NICK - CPU usage with SAS - problem

    louise <louise@invalid.invalid> wrote in
    news:4svfk0Frs7amU1@mid.individual.net:

    > Steve wrote:
    >> "Far Canal" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    >> news:MPG.1fd3afd4299f9be7989ed6@news.readfreenews. net...
    >>> Rick wrote
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> One way to approach it is to look and see who they are talking to.
    >>>> You
    >>>> might try grabbing a copy of TCPView from Sysinternals (which has
    >>>> since been absorbed by Microsoft at http://************/y82msb ) and
    >>>> have it set to autostart. Then watch for your svchost connections
    >>>> and use whois to find
    >>>> out who it is talking to.
    >>>>
    >>>> Off the top of my head, I suspect you will find that it is
    >>>> Microsoft's
    >>>> WGA
    >>>> program module that phones home shortly after booting up a Windows
    >>>> XP system. Try going here:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Genuine_Advantage
    >>>>
    >>>> for more info.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> XP-AntiSpy is very useful for turning off unwanted M$ crap
    >>> http://www.xp-antispy.org/
    >>> Makes it easy to turn parts of it back on for M$ Update. Allegedly.
    >>> Version 3.96-4 has recently appeared and stops automatic install of
    >>> IE7 which is causing problems for many.
    >>>

    >>
    >> Thank you Kurt, Rick and Far Canal.
    >>
    >> WGA certainly took it's toll on my resources. Decided to stick with
    >> it rather than wind back the system to ease the pain of update.
    >>
    >> The IE7 install seems to have slowed down the PC as well but IE7
    >> itself seems to run OK.
    >>
    >> Time to start working our what is driving SVCHOST sessions. Thanks
    >> again,
    >>
    >> --
    >> Steve
    >>
    >>

    > I'm sorry to report that I have tried everything I can think
    > of - particularly everything that is different about my
    > portable than my desktop (where SAS doesn't drain resources).
    >
    > Windows update is, and has been, disabled.
    > I turned off Windows firewall - seemed to have no effect.
    >
    > I just spent the last hour using Process Explorer and
    > suspending each process to see if it reduced CPU use by SAS
    > and the excessive fluctuations. I could not find a process
    > that stopped the cpu jumping to 40+ usage, then to 12% and
    > right back to 40 something % - sometimes into the 50s.
    >
    > Whatever this process is, it is happening literally every
    > one or two seconds - back and forth.
    >
    > And, as noted before, it doesn't happen on my desktop.
    >
    > If anyone has any other suggestions, I'll be happy to try
    > them as I'm really very disappointed to find SAS unusable on
    > my portable - the machine that is, in fact, much more
    > vulnerable because of the traveling it does and the various
    > wireless connections I make while traveling.
    >
    > Is there a more thorough way to track this down?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Louise


    For amusement... Would you create a new account on the computer, and see
    if SAS does the same?



    --
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    Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool -V1.9.4
    web: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis
    Last updated: November 22nd, 2006


  2. #2
    pcbutts1 Guest

    Re: UPDATE Re: NICK - CPU usage with SAS - problem

    I reported that to him a while ago, see my comparison screen shots.
    http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/adaware.doc
    http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/defender.doc
    http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/ewido.doc
    http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/superanti.doc



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    "Dustin Cook" <spamfilterineffect.see.sig@nowhere.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns988AD8AB058FFHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121.. .
    > louise <louise@invalid.invalid> wrote in
    > news:4svfk0Frs7amU1@mid.individual.net:
    >
    >> Steve wrote:
    >>> "Far Canal" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:MPG.1fd3afd4299f9be7989ed6@news.readfreenews. net...
    >>>> Rick wrote
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> One way to approach it is to look and see who they are talking to.
    >>>>> You
    >>>>> might try grabbing a copy of TCPView from Sysinternals (which has
    >>>>> since been absorbed by Microsoft at http://************/y82msb ) and
    >>>>> have it set to autostart. Then watch for your svchost connections
    >>>>> and use whois to find
    >>>>> out who it is talking to.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Off the top of my head, I suspect you will find that it is
    >>>>> Microsoft's
    >>>>> WGA
    >>>>> program module that phones home shortly after booting up a Windows
    >>>>> XP system. Try going here:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Genuine_Advantage
    >>>>>
    >>>>> for more info.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> XP-AntiSpy is very useful for turning off unwanted M$ crap
    >>>> http://www.xp-antispy.org/
    >>>> Makes it easy to turn parts of it back on for M$ Update. Allegedly.
    >>>> Version 3.96-4 has recently appeared and stops automatic install of
    >>>> IE7 which is causing problems for many.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Thank you Kurt, Rick and Far Canal.
    >>>
    >>> WGA certainly took it's toll on my resources. Decided to stick with
    >>> it rather than wind back the system to ease the pain of update.
    >>>
    >>> The IE7 install seems to have slowed down the PC as well but IE7
    >>> itself seems to run OK.
    >>>
    >>> Time to start working our what is driving SVCHOST sessions. Thanks
    >>> again,
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Steve
    >>>
    >>>

    >> I'm sorry to report that I have tried everything I can think
    >> of - particularly everything that is different about my
    >> portable than my desktop (where SAS doesn't drain resources).
    >>
    >> Windows update is, and has been, disabled.
    >> I turned off Windows firewall - seemed to have no effect.
    >>
    >> I just spent the last hour using Process Explorer and
    >> suspending each process to see if it reduced CPU use by SAS
    >> and the excessive fluctuations. I could not find a process
    >> that stopped the cpu jumping to 40+ usage, then to 12% and
    >> right back to 40 something % - sometimes into the 50s.
    >>
    >> Whatever this process is, it is happening literally every
    >> one or two seconds - back and forth.
    >>
    >> And, as noted before, it doesn't happen on my desktop.
    >>
    >> If anyone has any other suggestions, I'll be happy to try
    >> them as I'm really very disappointed to find SAS unusable on
    >> my portable - the machine that is, in fact, much more
    >> vulnerable because of the traveling it does and the various
    >> wireless connections I make while traveling.
    >>
    >> Is there a more thorough way to track this down?
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >> Louise

    >
    > For amusement... Would you create a new account on the computer, and see
    > if SAS does the same?
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Dustin Cook
    > Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool -V1.9.4
    > web: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    > email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis
    > Last updated: November 22nd, 2006
    >




  3. #3
    Nick Skrepetos Guest

    Re: UPDATE Re: NICK - CPU usage with SAS - problem


    pcbutts1 wrote:
    > I reported that to him a while ago, see my comparison screen shots.
    > http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/adaware.doc
    > http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/defender.doc
    > http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/ewido.doc
    > http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/superanti.doc
    >
    >
    >

    When were the screen shots taken, meaning startup, sitting for a long
    time, scanning, etc. etc. What version of our software? What else was
    running on the system, you can only see a few processes.......

    If you are going to post "comparisons", etc. you really need to fully
    disclose the systems, etc. I know you are new at this, but it seems
    there has been enough discussion in these groups that you would know
    you need to provide some additional data here so the "results" have
    actual meaning.

    Nick Skrepetos
    SUPERAntiSpyware.com
    http://www.superantispyware.com


  4. #4
    pcbutts1 Guest

    Re: UPDATE Re: NICK - CPU usage with SAS - problem

    I don't remember the version number these screenshots are from a while ago
    back in March. No other programs were running at the time.

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    "Nick Skrepetos" <nskrepetos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1164858494.618915.260500@16g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
    >
    > pcbutts1 wrote:
    >> I reported that to him a while ago, see my comparison screen shots.
    >> http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/adaware.doc
    >> http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/defender.doc
    >> http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/ewido.doc
    >> http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/superanti.doc
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > When were the screen shots taken, meaning startup, sitting for a long
    > time, scanning, etc. etc. What version of our software? What else was
    > running on the system, you can only see a few processes.......
    >
    > If you are going to post "comparisons", etc. you really need to fully
    > disclose the systems, etc. I know you are new at this, but it seems
    > there has been enough discussion in these groups that you would know
    > you need to provide some additional data here so the "results" have
    > actual meaning.
    >
    > Nick Skrepetos
    > SUPERAntiSpyware.com
    > http://www.superantispyware.com
    >




  5. #5
    louise Guest

    Re: UPDATE Re: NICK - CPU usage with SAS - problem

    pcbutts1 wrote:
    > I reported that to him a while ago, see my comparison screen shots.
    > http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/adaware.doc
    > http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/defender.doc
    > http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/ewido.doc
    > http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/superanti.doc
    >
    >
    >

    Are these done on a portable with wireless or on a desktop?

    I ask because on my desktop it goes from 0 to about 3 (wired
    to the router) - on my portable it goes from about 14 to 50
    - wireless to the router.

    Thanks.

    BTW, are you running any of the above in real time?

    Louise

  6. #6
    pcbutts1 Guest

    Re: UPDATE Re: NICK - CPU usage with SAS - problem

    Yes it was in real-time on a Gateway Laptop using wireless to a linksys
    router XP MCE SP2.

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    "louise" <louise@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:4t77giF11o2n0U2@mid.individual.net...
    > pcbutts1 wrote:
    >> I reported that to him a while ago, see my comparison screen shots.
    >> http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/adaware.doc
    >> http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/defender.doc
    >> http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/ewido.doc
    >> http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/superanti.doc
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > Are these done on a portable with wireless or on a desktop?
    >
    > I ask because on my desktop it goes from 0 to about 3 (wired to the
    > router) - on my portable it goes from about 14 to 50 - wireless to the
    > router.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > BTW, are you running any of the above in real time?
    >
    > Louise




  7. #7
    louise Guest

    Re: UPDATE Re: NICK - CPU usage with SAS - problem

    pcbutts1 wrote:
    > Yes it was in real-time on a Gateway Laptop using wireless to a linksys
    > router XP MCE SP2.
    >

    And mine is on a Thinkpad.

    Mine is even more telling in that it runs flawlessly on my
    desktop (P4, 3.2, 2 gig of ram etc). The desktop is wired
    to the router while the laptop is wireless. On the desktop,
    average cpu usage is 0 to 02 unless loading a webpage or
    something like that. Resource use is minimal on the desktop
    and throught the roof on the laptop.

    Are you running a real time spyware program now on your
    laptop? What are you using?

    Louise

  8. #8
    pcbutts1 Guest

    Re: UPDATE Re: NICK - CPU usage with SAS - problem

    Yes I am running real-time Spyware software, it's my own product however I
    will not give the name of it in this group, there are way too many trolls
    who don't like me.


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    "louise" <louise@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:4t9pn1F130pleU1@mid.individual.net...
    > pcbutts1 wrote:
    >> Yes it was in real-time on a Gateway Laptop using wireless to a linksys
    >> router XP MCE SP2.
    >>

    > And mine is on a Thinkpad.
    >
    > Mine is even more telling in that it runs flawlessly on my desktop (P4,
    > 3.2, 2 gig of ram etc). The desktop is wired to the router while the
    > laptop is wireless. On the desktop, average cpu usage is 0 to 02 unless
    > loading a webpage or something like that. Resource use is minimal on the
    > desktop and throught the roof on the laptop.
    >
    > Are you running a real time spyware program now on your laptop? What are
    > you using?
    >
    > Louise




  9. #9
    Andy Walker Guest

    Re: UPDATE Re: NICK - CPU usage with SAS - problem

    pcbutts1 wrote:

    >Yes I am running real-time Spyware software, it's my own product however I
    >will not give the name of it in this group, there are way too many trolls
    >who don't like me.


    All your supportors(tans) remain mute on the subject of your veracity,
    butts. Why is that?

  10. #10
    louise Guest

    Re: UPDATE Re: NICK - CPU usage with SAS - problem

    Dustin Cook wrote:
    > louise <louise@invalid.invalid> wrote in
    > news:4svfk0Frs7amU1@mid.individual.net:
    >
    >> Steve wrote:
    >>> "Far Canal" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:MPG.1fd3afd4299f9be7989ed6@news.readfreenews. net...
    >>>> Rick wrote
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> One way to approach it is to look and see who they are talking to.
    >>>>> You
    >>>>> might try grabbing a copy of TCPView from Sysinternals (which has
    >>>>> since been absorbed by Microsoft at http://************/y82msb ) and
    >>>>> have it set to autostart. Then watch for your svchost connections
    >>>>> and use whois to find
    >>>>> out who it is talking to.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Off the top of my head, I suspect you will find that it is
    >>>>> Microsoft's
    >>>>> WGA
    >>>>> program module that phones home shortly after booting up a Windows
    >>>>> XP system. Try going here:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Genuine_Advantage
    >>>>>
    >>>>> for more info.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> XP-AntiSpy is very useful for turning off unwanted M$ crap
    >>>> http://www.xp-antispy.org/
    >>>> Makes it easy to turn parts of it back on for M$ Update. Allegedly.
    >>>> Version 3.96-4 has recently appeared and stops automatic install of
    >>>> IE7 which is causing problems for many.
    >>>>
    >>> Thank you Kurt, Rick and Far Canal.
    >>>
    >>> WGA certainly took it's toll on my resources. Decided to stick with
    >>> it rather than wind back the system to ease the pain of update.
    >>>
    >>> The IE7 install seems to have slowed down the PC as well but IE7
    >>> itself seems to run OK.
    >>>
    >>> Time to start working our what is driving SVCHOST sessions. Thanks
    >>> again,
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Steve
    >>>
    >>>

    >> I'm sorry to report that I have tried everything I can think
    >> of - particularly everything that is different about my
    >> portable than my desktop (where SAS doesn't drain resources).
    >>
    >> Windows update is, and has been, disabled.
    >> I turned off Windows firewall - seemed to have no effect.
    >>
    >> I just spent the last hour using Process Explorer and
    >> suspending each process to see if it reduced CPU use by SAS
    >> and the excessive fluctuations. I could not find a process
    >> that stopped the cpu jumping to 40+ usage, then to 12% and
    >> right back to 40 something % - sometimes into the 50s.
    >>
    >> Whatever this process is, it is happening literally every
    >> one or two seconds - back and forth.
    >>
    >> And, as noted before, it doesn't happen on my desktop.
    >>
    >> If anyone has any other suggestions, I'll be happy to try
    >> them as I'm really very disappointed to find SAS unusable on
    >> my portable - the machine that is, in fact, much more
    >> vulnerable because of the traveling it does and the various
    >> wireless connections I make while traveling.
    >>
    >> Is there a more thorough way to track this down?
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >> Louise

    >
    > For amusement... Would you create a new account on the computer, and see
    > if SAS does the same?
    >
    >
    >

    What do you mean by "create a new account"?

    Louise

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