AVG Free Antispyware

[Andy]

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> jeremy wrote:
>> "Nick Skrepetos" <nskrepetos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> > Gaz wrote:
>> >> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
>> >> news:ejokde$hui$1@news.datemas.de...
>> >> >I downloaded and update AVG Free Anti-Spyware and done a full disk
>> >> >scan
>> >> >(Scan all files) and it found spyware and I chose to delete all.
>> >> >Immediately afterwards I downloaded SpyBot Search & Destroy 1.4 and
>> >> >updated
>> >> >it and done a full scan and it came up with another load of spyware
>> >> >ones
>> >> >that weren't found on AVG anti spyware. they were Jupilites,
>> >> >Microsoft
>> >> >windows.activedesktop, Microsoft.Windows.Explorer,
>> >> >Microsoft.WindowsSecurityCenter.taskManager and SpySheriff.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now why can you not seem to entrust one anti spyware program to get
>> >> > rid
>> >> > of
>> >> > ALL spyware without having to check with another spyware program? -
>> >> > and
>> >> > why were these spyware not picked up by AVG anti spyware program in
>> >> > the
>> >> > first place?
>> >> >
>> >> > Does anyone know?
>> >>
>> >> I dont know if it picks up everything, but it seems more aggressive
>> >> then
>> >> spybot and adaware, superantispyware.....
>> >>
>> >> Gaz
>> >
>> > Gaz, I am curious as to how you can assess the aggressiveness of the
>> > various anti-spyware products, can you elaborate? We often detect and
>> > remove infections that AVG and others don't even see, and they find
>> > things we don't find - I am not sure if you can say one product is more
>> > "aggressive" than another. I believe some of the products are falling
>> > behind a little on the "new" infections, but with the rate they are
>> > coming out, I don't think anyone can stay "on top" of all the
>> > infections.
>> >
>> > Nick Skrepetos
>> > SUPERAntiSpyware.com
>> > http://www.superantispyware.com
>> >
>>
>> Doesn't the splash screen on SuperAntiSpyware make the claim that your
>> product removes ALL the spyware, not just the easy ones?
>
> Yes, we do make that claim, and here is the reason we can make that
> claim:
> http://www.superantispyware.com/supe...e_service.html
>
> Nick Skrepetos
> SUPERAntiSpyware.com
> http://www.superantispyware.com
>

wowee, after using 3 different spyware removers (AVG AS, Spybot 1.4, Adaware
PE) and supposedly letting them clear all the spyware on my hard drive I ran
SuperAntiSpyware and guess what it found another 40 pieces of spyware!! - so
that is 4 different AS products I have used who said they have got rid of
all the spyware on my drive blimey if I download and use another spyware
cleaner is that gonna find even more spyware left???

[Andy Walker]

Andy wrote:

>if I download and use another spyware
>cleaner is that gonna find even more spyware left???

Probably. Malware applications, which includes spyware and adware,
are increasing at an extremely fast pace, it's unlikely that any
anti-malware vendor could ever have all the necessary information to
remove them all. Even those that claim to remove malware "completely"
leave tell-tale signs that some other vendor might find.

[Andy]

"Andy Walker" <awalker@nspank.invalid> wrote in message
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> Andy wrote:
>
>>if I download and use another spyware
>>cleaner is that gonna find even more spyware left???
>
> Probably. Malware applications, which includes spyware and adware,
> are increasing at an extremely fast pace, it's unlikely that any
> anti-malware vendor could ever have all the necessary information to
> remove them all. Even those that claim to remove malware "completely"
> leave tell-tale signs that some other vendor might find.

So all very OK'ish with free spyware removers but what about the well known
ones you have to pay for? - I don't think that's right that you would have
to pay for a product and think its going to remove all traces of spyware
just to find out it has left some traces of spyware behind. - or could it be
gospel that the ones you pay for remove all traces?

[cmsix]

"Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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> "Andy Walker" <awalker@nspank.invalid> wrote in message
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>> Andy wrote:
>>
>>>if I download and use another spyware
>>>cleaner is that gonna find even more spyware left???
>>
>> Probably. Malware applications, which includes spyware and adware,
>> are increasing at an extremely fast pace, it's unlikely that any
>> anti-malware vendor could ever have all the necessary information
>> to
>> remove them all. Even those that claim to remove malware
>> "completely"
>> leave tell-tale signs that some other vendor might find.
>
> So all very OK'ish with free spyware removers but what about the
> well known ones you have to pay for? - I don't think that's right
> that you would have to pay for a product and think its going to
> remove all traces of spyware just to find out it has left some
> traces of spyware behind. - or could it be gospel that the ones you
> pay for remove all traces?

What "pay product" product are you referring to? Would it happen to be
one that doesn't allow a trial download so you can check it out. Does
"A pig in a poke" have any meaning to you?

cmsix

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[Andy]

"cmsix" <cmsix@storiesonline.org> wrote in message
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> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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>> "Andy Walker" <awalker@nspank.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:l8s1m2t15ngc09kl298u15vjjanf3lmhu8@news.webtv .com...
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>
>>>>if I download and use another spyware
>>>>cleaner is that gonna find even more spyware left???
>>>
>>> Probably. Malware applications, which includes spyware and adware,
>>> are increasing at an extremely fast pace, it's unlikely that any
>>> anti-malware vendor could ever have all the necessary information to
>>> remove them all. Even those that claim to remove malware "completely"
>>> leave tell-tale signs that some other vendor might find.
>>
>> So all very OK'ish with free spyware removers but what about the well
>> known ones you have to pay for? - I don't think that's right that you
>> would have to pay for a product and think its going to remove all traces
>> of spyware just to find out it has left some traces of spyware behind. -
>> or could it be gospel that the ones you pay for remove all traces?
>
> What "pay product" product are you referring to? Would it happen to be one
> that doesn't allow a trial download so you can check it out. Does "A pig
> in a poke" have any meaning to you?
>
> cmsix

Well say if I were to say a product you buy like Mc*fee or N*rton
antispyware products and you have found that you have paid for them and they
don't get rid of all your spyware - and especially if you tried another
spyware program and it came up with some more spyware found after you ran
the one you bought! - in other words if you have bought an anti syware
program but free versions had found more or updated their definitions
quicker you would quite rightly be angry that the one you paid for didn't
remove all spyware.

[cmsix]

"Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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> "cmsix" <cmsix@storiesonline.org> wrote in message
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>> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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>>> "Andy Walker" <awalker@nspank.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:l8s1m2t15ngc09kl298u15vjjanf3lmhu8@news.webtv .com...
>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>if I download and use another spyware
>>>>>cleaner is that gonna find even more spyware left???
>>>>
>>>> Probably. Malware applications, which includes spyware and
>>>> adware,
>>>> are increasing at an extremely fast pace, it's unlikely that any
>>>> anti-malware vendor could ever have all the necessary information
>>>> to
>>>> remove them all. Even those that claim to remove malware
>>>> "completely"
>>>> leave tell-tale signs that some other vendor might find.
>>>
>>> So all very OK'ish with free spyware removers but what about the
>>> well known ones you have to pay for? - I don't think that's right
>>> that you would have to pay for a product and think its going to
>>> remove all traces of spyware just to find out it has left some
>>> traces of spyware behind. - or could it be gospel that the ones
>>> you pay for remove all traces?
>>
>> What "pay product" product are you referring to? Would it happen to
>> be one that doesn't allow a trial download so you can check it out.
>> Does "A pig in a poke" have any meaning to you?
>>
>> cmsix
>
> Well say if I were to say a product you buy like Mc*fee or N*rton
> antispyware products and you have found that you have paid for them
> and they don't get rid of all your spyware - and especially if you
> tried another spyware program and it came up with some more spyware
> found after you ran the one you bought! - in other words if you have
> bought an anti syware program but free versions had found more or
> updated their definitions quicker you would quite rightly be angry
> that the one you paid for didn't remove all spyware.

If you bought McAfee or Symantec products you not only have the right
to be angry, you have my deepest sympathy.

If that's the case please accept my condolences on your loss.

cmsix

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[Andy]

"cmsix" <cmsix@storiesonline.org> wrote in message
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> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
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>> "cmsix" <cmsix@storiesonline.org> wrote in message
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>>> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
>>> news:ejqsk9$hmd$1@news.datemas.de...
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>>>> "Andy Walker" <awalker@nspank.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:l8s1m2t15ngc09kl298u15vjjanf3lmhu8@news.webtv .com...
>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>if I download and use another spyware
>>>>>>cleaner is that gonna find even more spyware left???
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably. Malware applications, which includes spyware and adware,
>>>>> are increasing at an extremely fast pace, it's unlikely that any
>>>>> anti-malware vendor could ever have all the necessary information to
>>>>> remove them all. Even those that claim to remove malware "completely"
>>>>> leave tell-tale signs that some other vendor might find.
>>>>
>>>> So all very OK'ish with free spyware removers but what about the well
>>>> known ones you have to pay for? - I don't think that's right that you
>>>> would have to pay for a product and think its going to remove all
>>>> traces of spyware just to find out it has left some traces of spyware
>>>> behind. - or could it be gospel that the ones you pay for remove all
>>>> traces?
>>>
>>> What "pay product" product are you referring to? Would it happen to be
>>> one that doesn't allow a trial download so you can check it out. Does "A
>>> pig in a poke" have any meaning to you?
>>>
>>> cmsix
>>
>> Well say if I were to say a product you buy like Mc*fee or N*rton
>> antispyware products and you have found that you have paid for them and
>> they don't get rid of all your spyware - and especially if you tried
>> another spyware program and it came up with some more spyware found after
>> you ran the one you bought! - in other words if you have bought an anti
>> syware program but free versions had found more or updated their
>> definitions quicker you would quite rightly be angry that the one you
>> paid for didn't remove all spyware.
>
> If you bought McAfee or Symantec products you not only have the right to
> be angry, you have my deepest sympathy.
>
> If that's the case please accept my condolences on your loss.
>
> cmsix

If you bought a freezer and it turned out not to freeze you can take it back
under the sale of goods act and say it does not perform what it is meant to
do. So if you buy any of the well known spyware removers from a computer
shop and it didn't remove all the spyware when you run it can you take that
back? - I doubt it.