AVG Free Antispyware

[Andy]

I downloaded and update AVG Free Anti-Spyware and done a full disk scan
(Scan all files) and it found spyware and I chose to delete all. Immediately
afterwards I downloaded SpyBot Search & Destroy 1.4 and updated it and done
a full scan and it came up with another load of spyware ones that weren't
found on AVG anti spyware. they were Jupilites, Microsoft
windows.activedesktop, Microsoft.Windows.Explorer,
Microsoft.WindowsSecurityCenter.taskManager and SpySheriff.

Now why can you not seem to entrust one anti spyware program to get rid of
ALL spyware without having to check with another spyware program? - and why
were these spyware not picked up by AVG anti spyware program in the first
place?

Does anyone know?

Thanks,

Andy.

[Nick Skrepetos]

Andy wrote:
> I downloaded and update AVG Free Anti-Spyware and done a full disk scan
> (Scan all files) and it found spyware and I chose to delete all. Immediately
> afterwards I downloaded SpyBot Search & Destroy 1.4 and updated it and done
> a full scan and it came up with another load of spyware ones that weren't
> found on AVG anti spyware. they were Jupilites, Microsoft
> windows.activedesktop, Microsoft.Windows.Explorer,
> Microsoft.WindowsSecurityCenter.taskManager and SpySheriff.
>
> Now why can you not seem to entrust one anti spyware program to get rid of
> ALL spyware without having to check with another spyware program? - and why
> were these spyware not picked up by AVG anti spyware program in the first
> place?
>
> Does anyone know?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy.

Andy,

What were the actual items shown for Jupilites and SpySherrif? Were
they files or registry keys? The other items really aren't threats -
Spybot just flags those indicating you may have Active Desktop enabled,
etc.

As for why a single anti-spyware program can't detect
everything......the answer is that the number of spyware infections
coming out daily is astounding and it is, and always will be impossible
for a single product, from a single vendor to catch everything on a
given day.

For instance, we receive thousands of unique samples per week in
addition to the thousands we harvest in-house - every other company is
harvesting and receiving their own set of samples - and many of the
samples are different that we receive - so there is really no way for a
single company to catch everyhing. Thus the requirement of using
multiple layers of anti-spyware and anti-virus solutions.

Nick Skrepetos
SUPERAntiSpyware.com
http://www.superantispyware.com

[cmsix]

"Nick Skrepetos" <nskrepetos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1163922151.107128.193890@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Andy wrote:
>> I downloaded and update AVG Free Anti-Spyware and done a full disk
>> scan
>> (Scan all files) and it found spyware and I chose to delete all.
>> Immediately
>> afterwards I downloaded SpyBot Search & Destroy 1.4 and updated it
>> and done
>> a full scan and it came up with another load of spyware ones that
>> weren't
>> found on AVG anti spyware. they were Jupilites, Microsoft
>> windows.activedesktop, Microsoft.Windows.Explorer,
>> Microsoft.WindowsSecurityCenter.taskManager and SpySheriff.
>>
>> Now why can you not seem to entrust one anti spyware program to get
>> rid of
>> ALL spyware without having to check with another spyware program? -
>> and why
>> were these spyware not picked up by AVG anti spyware program in the
>> first
>> place?
>>
>> Does anyone know?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andy.
>
> Andy,
>
> What were the actual items shown for Jupilites and SpySherrif? Were
> they files or registry keys? The other items really aren't threats -
> Spybot just flags those indicating you may have Active Desktop
> enabled,
> etc.
>
> As for why a single anti-spyware program can't detect
> everything......the answer is that the number of spyware infections
> coming out daily is astounding and it is, and always will be
> impossible
> for a single product, from a single vendor to catch everything on a
> given day.
>
> For instance, we receive thousands of unique samples per week in
> addition to the thousands we harvest in-house - every other company
> is
> harvesting and receiving their own set of samples - and many of the
> samples are different that we receive - so there is really no way
> for a
> single company to catch everyhing. Thus the requirement of using
> multiple layers of anti-spyware and anti-virus solutions.

Amen brother, testify.

I first realized that this was the case when I received two virus
laden emails in one day. I was using Norton 2002 at the time, it came
free with hard disk the place I worked for bought, and I was almost
sure the attachments were viruses even though Norton 2002 didn't
complain. I submitted them and they came back as nasty.

If I can get that sort of thing on dialup(all I had at the time)with
and address that was fairly new I figured that things were getting a
little crappy on the net.

"How did you keep from getting infected?" you might ask.

By not being clueless enough to read html email.

Is it fair to say that the best two single things you can do to
protecte youself are turn off reading html email and use a browser
that doesn't say Internet Explorer?

Inquiring cmsix wants everyone's opinion.

cmsix

>
> Nick Skrepetos
> SUPERAntiSpyware.com
> http://www.superantispyware.com
>

[Gaz]

"Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
news:ejokde$hui$1@news.datemas.de...
>I downloaded and update AVG Free Anti-Spyware and done a full disk scan
>(Scan all files) and it found spyware and I chose to delete all.
>Immediately afterwards I downloaded SpyBot Search & Destroy 1.4 and updated
>it and done a full scan and it came up with another load of spyware ones
>that weren't found on AVG anti spyware. they were Jupilites, Microsoft
>windows.activedesktop, Microsoft.Windows.Explorer,
>Microsoft.WindowsSecurityCenter.taskManager and SpySheriff.
>
> Now why can you not seem to entrust one anti spyware program to get rid of
> ALL spyware without having to check with another spyware program? - and
> why were these spyware not picked up by AVG anti spyware program in the
> first place?
>
> Does anyone know?

I dont know if it picks up everything, but it seems more aggressive then
spybot and adaware, superantispyware.....

Gaz

[Charani]

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:18:24 GMT, cmsix wrote:

> Is it fair to say that the best two single things you can do to
> protecte youself are turn off reading html email and use a browser
> that doesn't say Internet Explorer?
>
> Inquiring cmsix wants everyone's opinion.

Yes, probably, but not those alone. I don't use OE for mail either.

[Kerry Brown]

The single best thing you can do to stop malware from causing a problem with
your computer is to run as a standard user. Using a different browser or
different email program may help because the alternate programs you use may
not be targeted as much as OE or IE. All programs have bugs. Most programs
now access the Internet in some way. This gives malware many vectors to
attack your computer. Even anti-malware programs can be targeted and used as
a vector to install malware. Running as a standard user mitigates the
attacks by not allowing the malware access to system files or system
registry hives. It can still install but only in the context of the current
user. Most malware expects administrator access and fails when it isn't
available.

Unfortunately running as a standard user is not really an option with XP
because Microsoft has encouraged sloppy programming since Windows 95. Many
programs expect administrator privileges and fail without them. This is
where Vista is exciting. It allows, actually enforces via uac, programs to
run in the context of a standard user even if the user is logged on as an
administrator. This will help enormously in the fight against malware. If
you have ever worked in an environment where everyone runs as a standard
user you would know how easy it is to clean most malware infections in this
environment if they even succeed in installing at all.

--
Kerry Brown

Charani wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:18:24 GMT, cmsix wrote:
>
>> Is it fair to say that the best two single things you can do to
>> protecte youself are turn off reading html email and use a browser
>> that doesn't say Internet Explorer?
>>
>> Inquiring cmsix wants everyone's opinion.
>
> Yes, probably, but not those alone. I don't use OE for mail either.

[Nick Skrepetos]

Gaz wrote:
> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
> news:ejokde$hui$1@news.datemas.de...
> >I downloaded and update AVG Free Anti-Spyware and done a full disk scan
> >(Scan all files) and it found spyware and I chose to delete all.
> >Immediately afterwards I downloaded SpyBot Search & Destroy 1.4 and updated
> >it and done a full scan and it came up with another load of spyware ones
> >that weren't found on AVG anti spyware. they were Jupilites, Microsoft
> >windows.activedesktop, Microsoft.Windows.Explorer,
> >Microsoft.WindowsSecurityCenter.taskManager and SpySheriff.
> >
> > Now why can you not seem to entrust one anti spyware program to get rid of
> > ALL spyware without having to check with another spyware program? - and
> > why were these spyware not picked up by AVG anti spyware program in the
> > first place?
> >
> > Does anyone know?
>
> I dont know if it picks up everything, but it seems more aggressive then
> spybot and adaware, superantispyware.....
>
> Gaz

Gaz, I am curious as to how you can assess the aggressiveness of the
various anti-spyware products, can you elaborate? We often detect and
remove infections that AVG and others don't even see, and they find
things we don't find - I am not sure if you can say one product is more
"aggressive" than another. I believe some of the products are falling
behind a little on the "new" infections, but with the rate they are
coming out, I don't think anyone can stay "on top" of all the
infections.

Nick Skrepetos
SUPERAntiSpyware.com
http://www.superantispyware.com

[infidel]

I love SAS, so far.
It hasn't found anything as yet as I use other protection as well
Maybe more speed for SAS\?!!!!
r

"Nick Skrepetos" <nskrepetos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1163960368.451886.140000@f16g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Gaz wrote:
> > "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
> > news:ejokde$hui$1@news.datemas.de...
> > >I downloaded and update AVG Free Anti-Spyware and done a full disk scan
> > >(Scan all files) and it found spyware and I chose to delete all.
> > >Immediately afterwards I downloaded SpyBot Search & Destroy 1.4 and
updated
> > >it and done a full scan and it came up with another load of spyware
ones
> > >that weren't found on AVG anti spyware. they were Jupilites, Microsoft
> > >windows.activedesktop, Microsoft.Windows.Explorer,
> > >Microsoft.WindowsSecurityCenter.taskManager and SpySheriff.
> > >
> > > Now why can you not seem to entrust one anti spyware program to get
rid of
> > > ALL spyware without having to check with another spyware program? -
and
> > > why were these spyware not picked up by AVG anti spyware program in
the
> > > first place?
> > >
> > > Does anyone know?
> >
> > I dont know if it picks up everything, but it seems more aggressive then
> > spybot and adaware, superantispyware.....
> >
> > Gaz
>
> Gaz, I am curious as to how you can assess the aggressiveness of the
> various anti-spyware products, can you elaborate? We often detect and
> remove infections that AVG and others don't even see, and they find
> things we don't find - I am not sure if you can say one product is more
> "aggressive" than another. I believe some of the products are falling
> behind a little on the "new" infections, but with the rate they are
> coming out, I don't think anyone can stay "on top" of all the
> infections.
>
> Nick Skrepetos
> SUPERAntiSpyware.com
> http://www.superantispyware.com
>

[Woody]

AVG is an antivirus program, not an antispyware program. You have to run
both. While antispyware will detect some viruses and antivirus will detect
some spyware they are different products.


"infidel" <infi@nonesuch.com> wrote in message
news:6R28h.68540$rP1.34035@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>I love SAS, so far.
> It hasn't found anything as yet as I use other protection as well
> Maybe more speed for SAS\?!!!!
> r
>
> "Nick Skrepetos" <nskrepetos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1163960368.451886.140000@f16g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Gaz wrote:
>> > "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
>> > news:ejokde$hui$1@news.datemas.de...
>> > >I downloaded and update AVG Free Anti-Spyware and done a full disk
>> > >scan
>> > >(Scan all files) and it found spyware and I chose to delete all.
>> > >Immediately afterwards I downloaded SpyBot Search & Destroy 1.4 and
> updated
>> > >it and done a full scan and it came up with another load of spyware
> ones
>> > >that weren't found on AVG anti spyware. they were Jupilites, Microsoft
>> > >windows.activedesktop, Microsoft.Windows.Explorer,
>> > >Microsoft.WindowsSecurityCenter.taskManager and SpySheriff.
>> > >
>> > > Now why can you not seem to entrust one anti spyware program to get
> rid of
>> > > ALL spyware without having to check with another spyware program? -
> and
>> > > why were these spyware not picked up by AVG anti spyware program in
> the
>> > > first place?
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone know?
>> >
>> > I dont know if it picks up everything, but it seems more aggressive
>> > then
>> > spybot and adaware, superantispyware.....
>> >
>> > Gaz
>>
>> Gaz, I am curious as to how you can assess the aggressiveness of the
>> various anti-spyware products, can you elaborate? We often detect and
>> remove infections that AVG and others don't even see, and they find
>> things we don't find - I am not sure if you can say one product is more
>> "aggressive" than another. I believe some of the products are falling
>> behind a little on the "new" infections, but with the rate they are
>> coming out, I don't think anyone can stay "on top" of all the
>> infections.
>>
>> Nick Skrepetos
>> SUPERAntiSpyware.com
>> http://www.superantispyware.com
>>
>
>

[Gaz]

Nick Skrepetos wrote:
> Gaz wrote:
>> "Andy" <andy@indigo.ie> wrote in message
>> news:ejokde$hui$1@news.datemas.de...
>
> Gaz, I am curious as to how you can assess the aggressiveness of the
> various anti-spyware products, can you elaborate? We often detect and
> remove infections that AVG and others don't even see, and they find
> things we don't find - I am not sure if you can say one product is more
> "aggressive" than another. I believe some of the products are falling
> behind a little on the "new" infections, but with the rate they are
> coming out, I don't think anyone can stay "on top" of all the
> infections.

True, none can stay on top, but yours is the only product that seems to
remove the very stubburn spyware.
I run spybot and adaware, and if that hasnt cleaned it all up, then i stick
superantispyware on. Superantispyware is one of the few pieces of software
that can deal with smitfraud etc, other then the specific smitfraud removal
tools.

Gaz



> Nick Skrepetos
> SUPERAntiSpyware.com
> http://www.superantispyware.com