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  1. #1
    JIP Guest

    Counterspy?

    Anyone got any experience of this - in terms of effectiveness, comparison to
    others such as Super AntiSpyware etc?



  2. #2
    Nick Skrepetos Guest

    Re: Counterspy?


    JIP wrote:
    > Anyone got any experience of this - in terms of effectiveness, comparison to
    > others such as Super AntiSpyware etc?


    I think you will find SUPERAntiSpyware picks up things CounterSpy
    misses and CounterSpy will pick up things SUPERAntiSpyware will miss -
    simple reality in the spyware game.

    Nick Skrepetos
    SUPERAntiSpyware.com
    http://www.superantispyware.com


  3. #3
    JIP Guest

    Re: Counterspy?

    > I think you will find SUPERAntiSpyware picks up things CounterSpy
    > misses and CounterSpy will pick up things SUPERAntiSpyware will miss -
    > simple reality in the spyware game.

    Well I think that's the most honest response I could ever have expected
    Nick. No sales talk, no bull ***, no ridiculing the competition - I think
    you just gained a convert.




  4. #4
    Nick Skrepetos Guest

    Re: Counterspy?


    JIP wrote:
    > > I think you will find SUPERAntiSpyware picks up things CounterSpy
    > > misses and CounterSpy will pick up things SUPERAntiSpyware will miss -
    > > simple reality in the spyware game.

    > Well I think that's the most honest response I could ever have expected
    > Nick. No sales talk, no bull ***, no ridiculing the competition - I think
    > you just gained a convert.


    It's just the reality of the spyware game/landscape - no product, ever,
    will be able to get everything on a given day - so the idea is to run
    multiple layers - SUPERAntiSpyware is designed to co-exist with
    existing security applications for that reason.

    Nick Skrepetos
    SUPERAntiSpyware.com
    http://www.superantispyware.com


  5. #5
    Crispy Critter Guest

    Re: Counterspy?

    On 31 Oct 2006 13:47:13 -0800, Nick Skrepetos wrote:


    > It's just the reality of the spyware game/landscape - no product, ever,
    > will be able to get everything on a given day - so the idea is to run
    > multiple layers - SUPERAntiSpyware is designed to co-exist with
    > existing security applications for that reason.


    That's kind of an expensive avenue to take though. Wonder how much spyware
    is put on the net by entities that have a vested intertest in selling anti
    spyware progs.Same with virii. Not accusing you of doing this but it makes
    one wonder where all the spyware is actually coming from.

  6. #6
    Nick Skrepetos Guest

    Re: Counterspy?


    Crispy Critter wrote:
    > On 31 Oct 2006 13:47:13 -0800, Nick Skrepetos wrote:
    >
    >
    > > It's just the reality of the spyware game/landscape - no product, ever,
    > > will be able to get everything on a given day - so the idea is to run
    > > multiple layers - SUPERAntiSpyware is designed to co-exist with
    > > existing security applications for that reason.

    >
    > That's kind of an expensive avenue to take though. Wonder how much spyware
    > is put on the net by entities that have a vested intertest in selling anti
    > spyware progs.Same with virii. Not accusing you of doing this but it makes
    > one wonder where all the spyware is actually coming from.


    It's not the anti-malware/anti-spyware vendors fault they can't get
    ahold of every sample on every single day - you would not believe the
    number of samples we, and other vendors, receive on a daily basis -
    thousands and thousands of samples.

    You wonder where the spyware is coming from - bottom line - companies
    such as Dollar Revenue pay big bucks per install:

    USA $ 0.30
    Canada $ 0.20
    United Kingdom $ 0.10

    The spyware market is probably more lucrative for many companies than
    the anti-spyware market - if we were writing the spyware, don't you
    think we could remove all of it?

    If users were not surfing Porn, Stealing Software (Warez/Cracks),
    Stealing Music/Videos (p2p) - the whole problem would not be so great.

    If people were willing to pay for software and services on the web,
    there would be no market for the spyware vendors - they spyware targets
    "free" because users just can't keep away.....users are the ones in
    control of changing the spyware game - the anti-malware vendors are
    here to clean up the mess...

    Nick Skrepetos
    SUPERAntiSpyware.com
    http://www.superantispyware.com


  7. #7
    Crispy Critter Guest

    Re: Counterspy?

    On 31 Oct 2006 16:18:22 -0800, Nick Skrepetos wrote:


    > It's not the anti-malware/anti-spyware vendors fault they can't get
    > ahold of every sample on every single day - you would not believe the
    > number of samples we, and other vendors, receive on a daily basis -
    > thousands and thousands of samples.
    >
    > You wonder where the spyware is coming from - bottom line - companies
    > such as Dollar Revenue pay big bucks per install:
    >
    > USA $ 0.30
    > Canada $ 0.20
    > United Kingdom $ 0.10
    >
    > The spyware market is probably more lucrative for many companies than
    > the anti-spyware market - if we were writing the spyware, don't you
    > think we could remove all of it?
    >
    > If users were not surfing Porn, Stealing Software (Warez/Cracks),
    > Stealing Music/Videos (p2p) - the whole problem would not be so great.
    >
    > If people were willing to pay for software and services on the web,
    > there would be no market for the spyware vendors - they spyware targets
    > "free" because users just can't keep away.....users are the ones in
    > control of changing the spyware game - the anti-malware vendors are
    > here to clean up the mess...
    >
    > Nick Skrepetos
    > SUPERAntiSpyware.com
    > http://www.superantispyware.com


    OK, thanks for the insights on the spyware game. Off to surf porn now.

  8. #8
    Nick Skrepetos Guest

    Re: Counterspy?


    Crispy Critter wrote:
    > On 31 Oct 2006 16:18:22 -0800, Nick Skrepetos wrote:
    >
    >
    > > It's not the anti-malware/anti-spyware vendors fault they can't get
    > > ahold of every sample on every single day - you would not believe the
    > > number of samples we, and other vendors, receive on a daily basis -
    > > thousands and thousands of samples.
    > >
    > > You wonder where the spyware is coming from - bottom line - companies
    > > such as Dollar Revenue pay big bucks per install:
    > >
    > > USA $ 0.30
    > > Canada $ 0.20
    > > United Kingdom $ 0.10
    > >
    > > The spyware market is probably more lucrative for many companies than
    > > the anti-spyware market - if we were writing the spyware, don't you
    > > think we could remove all of it?
    > >
    > > If users were not surfing Porn, Stealing Software (Warez/Cracks),
    > > Stealing Music/Videos (p2p) - the whole problem would not be so great.
    > >
    > > If people were willing to pay for software and services on the web,
    > > there would be no market for the spyware vendors - they spyware targets
    > > "free" because users just can't keep away.....users are the ones in
    > > control of changing the spyware game - the anti-malware vendors are
    > > here to clean up the mess...
    > >
    > > Nick Skrepetos
    > > SUPERAntiSpyware.com
    > > http://www.superantispyware.com

    >
    > OK, thanks for the insights on the spyware game. Off to surf porn now.


    Happy surfing - it keeps me in business

    -Nick


  9. #9
    Crispy Critter Guest

    Re: Counterspy?

    On 31 Oct 2006 20:29:58 -0800, Nick Skrepetos wrote:


    > Happy surfing - it keeps me in business
    >
    > -Nick


    Nah, I surf porn using the power of Linux.

  10. #10
    Bob Guest

    Re: Counterspy?

    I think they are open with there spyware definitions:
    http://research.sunbelt-software.com/
    From a lot of companies you don't see anything.
    Also when I have found spyware which I send it to Counterspy and they
    added it to there definitions.
    It found trojans and deleted them where anti-virus didn't find
    anything.
    I agree with Nick Skrepetos that you need (probably) 2 different
    anti-spaywares.
    Bob

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