Does anyone, besides me, get nervous when antivirus or antispyware scans
shows an all clean system? I mean with all of nasties out there you
would think that one would get infected at some point. I run SAS
freeware, Spyot, Nod32, MVPS Hosts file and only use firefox and
thunderbird. Are there test files for syware (kinda like EICAR for av)?
Brian wrote:
> Does anyone, besides me, get nervous when antivirus or antispyware
> scans shows an all clean system?
Not in the least.
> I mean with all of nasties out there you would think that one would
> get infected at some point.
Once you learn to practice Safe Hex, you stop worrying about it.
> I run SAS freeware, Spyot, Nod32, MVPS Hosts file and only use firefox
> and thunderbird. Are there test files for syware (kinda like EICAR
> for av)?
Since there are so many different kinds of "spyware", I doubt it.
--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
Brian wrote:
>Does anyone, besides me, get nervous when antivirus or antispyware scans
>shows an all clean system?
Not me, it's expected.
> I mean with all of nasties out there you
>would think that one would get infected at some point.
Not to give you a complex or anything, but there are many forms of
malware in the world that do not get caught by even the best
anti-virus/anti-spyware/anti-adware utilities. The chances of you
becoming infected with one are extremely slim because these forms of
malware are "targeted" to infect very specific companies and/or
individuals.
> I run SAS
>freeware, Spyot, Nod32, MVPS Hosts file and only use firefox and
>thunderbird. Are there test files for syware (kinda like EICAR for av)?
I don't know of any test files for spyware, other than using a sample
of real spyware to test with. You can look through your MVPS hosts
file if you want to find a site where you can try getting infected (I
don't recommend it, though) - the MVPS hosts file contains annotation
stating the reason that some sites are included, but you would need to
comment out any site you wanted to visit before opening your browser.
Brian wrote:
> Does anyone, besides me, get nervous when antivirus or antispyware scans
> shows an all clean system? I mean with all of nasties out there you
> would think that one would get infected at some point. I run SAS
> freeware, Spyot, Nod32, MVPS Hosts file and only use firefox and
> thunderbird. Are there test files for syware (kinda like EICAR for av)?
You can download and try all of the Spycar tests.
http://www.spycar.org/Welcome%20to%20Spycar.html
The jury is still out on what all of this means. EICAR tells you that
your AV is enabled, and what to expect if it detects something. It
doesn't actually tell you that it is capable of detecting anything
besides the EICAR test file, nor if one AV solution is any better than
another. Spycar might mean no more than what EICAR means.
BTW, I never find anything on my WinXP box (a FP from time to time),
and I collect malware scanners. I think that it just means that I have
boring internet habits.
Ron
Ron Lopshire <notron@ovbl.org> wrote in
news:YIu1h.15133$Lv3.617@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net:
> Brian wrote:
>> Does anyone, besides me, get nervous when antivirus or antispyware
>> scans shows an all clean system? I mean with all of nasties out there
>> you would think that one would get infected at some point. I run SAS
>> freeware, Spyot, Nod32, MVPS Hosts file and only use firefox and
>> thunderbird. Are there test files for syware (kinda like EICAR for
>> av)?
>
> You can download and try all of the Spycar tests.
>
> http://www.spycar.org/Welcome%20to%20Spycar.html
>
> The jury is still out on what all of this means. EICAR tells you that
> your AV is enabled, and what to expect if it detects something. It
> doesn't actually tell you that it is capable of detecting anything
> besides the EICAR test file, nor if one AV solution is any better than
> another. Spycar might mean no more than what EICAR means.
>
> BTW, I never find anything on my WinXP box (a FP from time to time),
> and I collect malware scanners. I think that it just means that I have
> boring internet habits.
>
> Ron
LOL. I guess I'm just boring.
It is healthy to have antispyware and antivirus software (as long as they
are updated and the computer scanned for threats very regularly). It is
cautious to not get into a false sense of security of "I have done all that
so I'm safe". Anything further is paranoia.
Regards.
Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions
"Brian" <my@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:12kcllh4e43d54f@corp.supernews.com...
> Does anyone, besides me, get nervous when antivirus or antispyware scans
> shows an all clean system? I mean with all of nasties out there you would
> think that one would get infected at some point. I run SAS freeware,
> Spyot, Nod32, MVPS Hosts file and only use firefox and thunderbird. Are
> there test files for syware (kinda like EICAR for av)?
"Bill Ridgeway" <info@1001solutions.co.uk> wrote in
news:ei5vih$r2i$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk:
> It is healthy to have antispyware and antivirus software (as long as
> they are updated and the computer scanned for threats very regularly).
> It is cautious to not get into a false sense of security of "I have
> done all that so I'm safe". Anything further is paranoia.
>
> Regards.
>
> Bill Ridgeway
> Computer Solutions
Exactly what I'm talking about, that's what makes me nervous, I don't want
to have that "false sense of security".
Brian wrote <<Exactly what I'm talking about, that's what makes me nervous,
I don't want to have that "false sense of security".>> Of course the best
way to deal with this is to ban the writing and release of virus and
spyware. How good are at miracles??
Regards.
Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions
"brian" <my@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Bill Ridgeway" <info@1001solutions.co.uk> wrote in
> news:ei5vih$r2i$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk:
>
>> It is healthy to have antispyware and antivirus software (as long as
>> they are updated and the computer scanned for threats very regularly).
>> It is cautious to not get into a false sense of security of "I have
>> done all that so I'm safe". Anything further is paranoia.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Bill Ridgeway
>> Computer Solutions
>
> Exactly what I'm talking about, that's what makes me nervous, I don't want
> to have that "false sense of security".
Don't use test files like Spycar, use actual spyware files (just don't
run them).
Here are a few nasties your anti-spyware should detect if it's good:
http://www.zoot-host.com/v/2071184/1...54679.zip.html
First, download the zip. Really good anti-spywares should detect it
when you download it (A.K.A., "Real Time Protection"). Second, if it
doesn't immediatly pick it up, scan the archive (don't unpack yet). If
it detects something, that's great! Do NOT delete them yet though. If
it doesn't, give it one more chance by unpacking (do not run files
after unpacking) and then scanning the files. It should detect all or
at least most. If it doesn't... well, don't get too attached to your
computer.
Delete the files immediatly after scanning.
I've said it twice, I'll say it again: DO NOT RUN THESE FILES! SCAN
ONLY.
-
The reason for this is that some anti-spyware's cheat by adding the
Spycar test files to their definitions instead of putting in what that
test is for (i.e. locking out users from changing the start page).
From: "Ze Muffinman" <EverybodyScanNow@gmail.com>
| Don't use test files like Spycar, use actual spyware files (just don't
| run them).
/* PLEASE -- Do NOT spread malware ! */
--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
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