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    David H. Lipman Guest

    Re: Query

    From: "sid" <sid.see@willcox.net>


    | I don't mean any offense, but aren't you exacerbating that which you
    | call "clueless" by offering such not-so-sound advice? It seems to me,
    | if one has enough of a clue to grasp the concept of malware/spyware
    | and to use/activate a firewall, would it not be safe to assume they'd
    | also be able to grasp the concept of allowing a program to pass?
    | Especially since most firewalls I'm aware of, automatically ask
    | permission for such!
    |
    | Perhaps clueless lies closer to home than you realize...
    |
    | Sid

    Funny Sid.

    This has been discussed before and it is the clueless who are the most affected/infected and
    it is those that need the Multi AV the most (other than those who use it professionally ior
    on another's behalf). I came to ther wording based upon experinces in posting other text
    other the past couple of years.

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



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    sid Guest

    Re: Query


    "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
    news:sA82h.5868$ul5.4124@trnddc03...
    > From: "sid" <sid.see@willcox.net>
    >
    >
    > | I don't mean any offense, but aren't you exacerbating that which you
    > | call "clueless" by offering such not-so-sound advice? It seems to me,
    > | if one has enough of a clue to grasp the concept of malware/spyware
    > | and to use/activate a firewall, would it not be safe to assume they'd
    > | also be able to grasp the concept of allowing a program to pass?
    > | Especially since most firewalls I'm aware of, automatically ask
    > | permission for such!
    > |
    > | Perhaps clueless lies closer to home than you realize...
    > |
    > | Sid
    >
    > Funny Sid.
    >
    > This has been discussed before and it is the clueless who are the most

    affected/infected and
    > it is those that need the Multi AV the most (other than those who use it

    professionally ior
    > on another's behalf). I came to ther wording based upon experinces in posting

    other text
    > other the past couple of years.
    >
    > --
    > Dave
    > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    > http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


    I wasn't trying to be funny, Dave.

    Nor is it funny, IMNSHO to give clueless people clueless
    advice such as its ok to disable their firewall-- good
    intentions or not. That your opinion or those of others
    may vary in this regard, does nothing to lessen the
    danger in such an ill-advised suggestion.

    Sid



  3. #3
    David H. Lipman Guest

    Re: Query

    From: "sid" <sid.see@willcox.net>

    |
    | I wasn't trying to be funny, Dave.
    |
    | Nor is it funny, IMNSHO to give clueless people clueless
    | advice such as its ok to disable their firewall-- good
    | intentions or not. That your opinion or those of others
    | may vary in this regard, does nothing to lessen the
    | danger in such an ill-advised suggestion.
    |
    | Sid
    |

    If is wasn't the experince to have to give the advice in the first pla ce, it woouln't be
    there.

    The fact is those words were chosen based upon News Group and email dialogues. They were
    not chosen based upon opinion. They were based soley upon experience. If it was't that
    case I would revert back to just stating that they need to allow the GNU WGET.EXE utility
    access to the Internet.

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



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    sid Guest

    Re: Query


    "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
    news:w4a2h.16503$DH5.16462@trnddc04...
    > From: "sid" <sid.see@willcox.net>
    >
    > |
    > | I wasn't trying to be funny, Dave.
    > |
    > | Nor is it funny, IMNSHO to give clueless people clueless
    > | advice such as its ok to disable their firewall-- good
    > | intentions or not. That your opinion or those of others
    > | may vary in this regard, does nothing to lessen the
    > | danger in such an ill-advised suggestion.
    > |
    > | Sid
    > |
    >
    > If is wasn't the experince to have to give the advice in the first pla ce, it

    woouln't be
    > there.
    >
    > The fact is those words were chosen based upon News Group and email dialogues.

    They were
    > not chosen based upon opinion. They were based soley upon experience. If it was't

    that
    > case I would revert back to just stating that they need to allow the GNU WGET.EXE

    utility
    > access to the Internet.
    >
    > --
    > Dave
    > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    > http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


    C'mon Dave, you're offering a specious argument simply to
    accommodate insouciance.

    And I'm not being pedantic... you and I both know that
    disabling one's firewall-- for whatever reason-- is not good
    practice. My opinion holds that advising the less-informed to
    do so, only serves to foster an erroneous impression.

    Let me suggest that you revert back to offering common
    sense instructions, then take the time and effort to inform
    those whom you find "clueless", as opposed to simply
    exacerbating ignorance as a matter of convenience...

    Sid




  5. #5
    David H. Lipman Guest

    Re: Query

    From: "sid" <sid.see@willcox.net>

    |
    | C'mon Dave, you're offering a specious argument simply to
    | accommodate insouciance.
    |
    | And I'm not being pedantic... you and I both know that
    | disabling one's firewall-- for whatever reason-- is not good
    | practice. My opinion holds that advising the less-informed to
    | do so, only serves to foster an erroneous impression.
    |
    | Let me suggest that you revert back to offering common
    | sense instructions, then take the time and effort to inform
    | those whom you find "clueless", as opposed to simply
    | exacerbating ignorance as a matter of convenience...
    |
    | Sid
    |

    Thanx for the feedback.

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



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