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[David H. Lipman]

From: "sid" <sid.see@willcox.net>

| David,
|
| What I don't understand, is why you would advise anyone
| to disable their firewall, as opposed to simply advising them
| to give WGET.EXE permission to pass.
|
| Personally, I wouldn't drop my firewall for any reason...
|
| Perhaps you could edify my feeble mind in this regard.
|
| Sid
|

I guess you missed the statement, "...or allow WGET.EXE to go through your
FireWall to allow it to download the needed AV vendor related files."

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

[sid]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "sid" <sid.see@willcox.net>
>
> | David,
> |
> | What I don't understand, is why you would advise anyone
> | to disable their firewall, as opposed to simply advising them
> | to give WGET.EXE permission to pass.
> |
> | Personally, I wouldn't drop my firewall for any reason...
> |
> | Perhaps you could edify my feeble mind in this regard.
> |
> | Sid
> |
>
> I guess you missed the statement, "...or allow WGET.EXE to go through your
> FireWall to allow it to download the needed AV vendor related files."


I understood that part... but I still don't get your advice to "disable"... are
there firewalls that don't allow programs to pass, but instead, must be
disabled instead?

Sid

>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>

[David H. Lipman]

From: "sid" <sid.see@willcox.net>


|
| I understood that part... but I still don't get your advice to "disable"... are
| there firewalls that don't allow programs to pass, but instead, must be
| disabled instead?
|
| Sid
|


It is for the clueless who fail to let WGET.EXE through the FireWall.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

[sid]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "sid" <sid.see@willcox.net>
>
>
> |
> | I understood that part... but I still don't get your advice to "disable"... are
> | there firewalls that don't allow programs to pass, but instead, must be
> | disabled instead?
> |
> | Sid
> |
>
>
> It is for the clueless who fail to let WGET.EXE through the FireWall.
>

I don't mean any offense, but aren't you exacerbating that which you
call "clueless" by offering such not-so-sound advice? It seems to me,
if one has enough of a clue to grasp the concept of malware/spyware
and to use/activate a firewall, would it not be safe to assume they'd
also be able to grasp the concept of allowing a program to pass?
Especially since most firewalls I'm aware of, automatically ask
permission for such!

Perhaps clueless lies closer to home than you realize...

Sid

>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>

[David H. Lipman]

From: "sid" <sid.see@willcox.net>


| I don't mean any offense, but aren't you exacerbating that which you
| call "clueless" by offering such not-so-sound advice? It seems to me,
| if one has enough of a clue to grasp the concept of malware/spyware
| and to use/activate a firewall, would it not be safe to assume they'd
| also be able to grasp the concept of allowing a program to pass?
| Especially since most firewalls I'm aware of, automatically ask
| permission for such!
|
| Perhaps clueless lies closer to home than you realize...
|
| Sid

Funny Sid.

This has been discussed before and it is the clueless who are the most affected/infected and
it is those that need the Multi AV the most (other than those who use it professionally ior
on another's behalf). I came to ther wording based upon experinces in posting other text
other the past couple of years.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

[sid]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "sid" <sid.see@willcox.net>
>
>
> | I don't mean any offense, but aren't you exacerbating that which you
> | call "clueless" by offering such not-so-sound advice? It seems to me,
> | if one has enough of a clue to grasp the concept of malware/spyware
> | and to use/activate a firewall, would it not be safe to assume they'd
> | also be able to grasp the concept of allowing a program to pass?
> | Especially since most firewalls I'm aware of, automatically ask
> | permission for such!
> |
> | Perhaps clueless lies closer to home than you realize...
> |
> | Sid
>
> Funny Sid.
>
> This has been discussed before and it is the clueless who are the most
affected/infected and
> it is those that need the Multi AV the most (other than those who use it
professionally ior
> on another's behalf). I came to ther wording based upon experinces in posting
other text
> other the past couple of years.
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

I wasn't trying to be funny, Dave.

Nor is it funny, IMNSHO to give clueless people clueless
advice such as its ok to disable their firewall-- good
intentions or not. That your opinion or those of others
may vary in this regard, does nothing to lessen the
danger in such an ill-advised suggestion.

Sid

[David H. Lipman]

From: "sid" <sid.see@willcox.net>

|
| I wasn't trying to be funny, Dave.
|
| Nor is it funny, IMNSHO to give clueless people clueless
| advice such as its ok to disable their firewall-- good
| intentions or not. That your opinion or those of others
| may vary in this regard, does nothing to lessen the
| danger in such an ill-advised suggestion.
|
| Sid
|

If is wasn't the experince to have to give the advice in the first pla ce, it woouln't be
there.

The fact is those words were chosen based upon News Group and email dialogues. They were
not chosen based upon opinion. They were based soley upon experience. If it was't that
case I would revert back to just stating that they need to allow the GNU WGET.EXE utility
access to the Internet.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm