Is this registry key necessary for SuperAntispyware?

[pcbutts1]

1. Microsoft Internet Explorer 75.75%

2. Netscape 15.15%

3. Opera/9.02 (Windows NT 5.0; U; en) 3.03%

4. Opera/9.02 (Windows NT 5.1; U; pl) 1.51%


You are correct about IE and Active X. The stats above run about the same
from all my sites.


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"Nick Skrepetos" <nskrepetos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1162249935.515677.214620@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>
> I am not trying to upset anyone - I am very thankful for all of the
> support this, and other groups, have provided for me and my products. I
> think my 99% issue was misread - I said "There are two browsers in use
> by 99% of the surfing public" - Internet Explorer and Firefox - I
> didn't say 99% used IE
>
> For instance, our stats as of right now today on SUPERAntiSpyware.com
> is 79.74% Internet Explorer, 19.2% Firefox/Mozilla and the balance
> everything else, just FYI. The SUPERAdBlocker.com stats are about the
> same with IE @ 82.1% and FireFox/Mozzilla @ 17.3%
>
> I also didn't say, and I hope didn't imply, anyone was a "baffoon" or
> "ignorant" because they did or didn't use ActiveX - I stated that
> ActiveX was not bad - and simply have issue with the blanket "ActiveX
> is bad".
>
> My point is that ActiveX is not bad - neither is XPI/XPCOM - both are
> great technologies that are useful. Any technology can be exploited.
>
> I am not sure ActiveX will be "dead" with the release of IE7, as there
> are still some native things that can't be done with the other methods
> - but either way it will play out how it does
>
> -Nick
>

[Ron Lopshire]

Leythos wrote:
> In article <LYr1h.1938$zf.993@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.ne t>,
> notron@ovbl.org says...
> [snip]
>
>>With the release of IE7, ActiveX is now optin. That means that by
>>default, for the first time in the history of ActiveX/IE, ActiveX is
>>disabled. I will leave it to the interested reader to determine which
>>of the above groups of Windows users is qualified to know how and when
>>to enable it.
>>
>>It would appear that Microsoft has decided to go a different direction
>>WRT to ActiveX. Those who are interested can Google for replacing
>>ActiveX controls with user forms, .NET and several other options.
>>Justified or not, this would appear to be the reality.
>>
>>Back in late 90s, before Firefox and Opera got their feet in the door,
>>this was the mantra.
>>
>> The browser wars are over, and IE won. Get over it.
>>
>>Allow me to be the first.
>>
>> With the release of IE7, ActiveX is dead. Get over it.
>
> Well said, all of it, and I just want to echo the above.

Thanks, Leythos.

Ron

[Ron Lopshire]

Andy Walker wrote:
> Ron Lopshire wrote:
>
>>part of safe hex (Rule #3) is not using IE/OE/Outlook. Even if
>>IE's share were 90% overall, and it's not, it is _way_ below 50% with
>>this crowd.
>
> I use Outlook and IE and have never been infected by ANY malware. Some
> people are simply clueless when it comes to safely traversing the
> internet...I am not one of them.
>
> I agree with your dislike for ActiveX. Any site that requires me to
> load an ActiveX object is quickly sent to the bottom of my list for
> any revisit (the exception being M$ update). I don't care who vouches
> for a sites security, they simply don't get to load their software on
> my computer. I even went to Nick's site (out of curiosity) and then
> immediately closed it after discovering it uses ActiveX.

Thanks, Andy. Having several browsers and clients to choose from is
the key. It makes it better for all of us. If the only games in town
were IE and OE/Outlook, it would be as much fun as dealing with the
telephone or cable companies.

Ron

[Ron Lopshire]

Nick Skrepetos wrote:
> Ron Lopshire wrote:
>
>>With the release of IE7, ActiveX is now optin. That means that by
>>default, for the first time in the history of ActiveX/IE, ActiveX is
>>disabled. I will leave it to the interested reader to determine which
>>of the above groups of Windows users is qualified to know how and when
>>to enable it.
>>
>>It would appear that Microsoft has decided to go a different direction
>>WRT to ActiveX. Those who are interested can Google for replacing
>>ActiveX controls with user forms, .NET and several other options.
>>Justified or not, this would appear to be the reality.
>>
>>Back in late 90s, before Firefox and Opera got their feet in the door,
>>this was the mantra.
>>
>> The browser wars are over, and IE won. Get over it.
>>
>>Allow me to be the first.
>>
>> With the release of IE7, ActiveX is dead. Get over it.
>
> I am not trying to upset anyone - I am very thankful for all of the
> support this, and other groups, have provided for me and my products. I
> think my 99% issue was misread - I said "There are two browsers in use
> by 99% of the surfing public" - Internet Explorer and Firefox - I
> didn't say 99% used IE
>
> For instance, our stats as of right now today on SUPERAntiSpyware.com
> is 79.74% Internet Explorer, 19.2% Firefox/Mozilla and the balance
> everything else, just FYI. The SUPERAdBlocker.com stats are about the
> same with IE @ 82.1% and FireFox/Mozzilla @ 17.3%
>
> I also didn't say, and I hope didn't imply, anyone was a "baffoon" or
> "ignorant" because they did or didn't use ActiveX - I stated that
> ActiveX was not bad - and simply have issue with the blanket "ActiveX
> is bad".
>
> My point is that ActiveX is not bad - neither is XPI/XPCOM - both are
> great technologies that are useful. Any technology can be exploited.
>
> I am not sure ActiveX will be "dead" with the release of IE7, as there
> are still some native things that can't be done with the other methods
> - but either way it will play out how it does

Thanks for the opportunity to rant, Nick. Keep up the good work.

The stats for SUPERAdBlocker surprise me, as I thought that SAB only
worked with IE, based on this:

"Super Ad Blocker supports Internet Explorer 5.0 and above, AOL 8.x
and above, and MSN on Windows 98, 98SE, ME, 2000 and XP!"

That's why I never looked into SUPERAdBlocker. BTW, I cannot imagine
ever using only one browser again. For your stats, my browser usage:

IE -> Microsoft Updates only, security settings at default, locked
down at all other times.
Opera -> Trusted browser. Javascript and first-party cookies enabled.
Firefox -> Default browser, locked down. Some toggling of settings used.
Netscape/SeaMonkey -> email/NNTP suites, browsers locked down.
Thunderbird -> my wife's personal email. She uses Office 2003
Professional (IE/Outlook) on her work laptop (Fortune 100 company).

This WFM, and I find something that I like/dislike about all of them.

Just based on a casual observation, the browser/client usages seem to
vary between NNTP and the Web Fora. In the GRC NGs, for example, there
appear to be tons of Opera users, perhaps even as many as the Mozilla
users. Particularly since it went free.

Ron

[Nick Skrepetos]

Ron Lopshire wrote:
> Nick Skrepetos wrote:
> > Ron Lopshire wrote:
> >
> >>With the release of IE7, ActiveX is now optin. That means that by
> >>default, for the first time in the history of ActiveX/IE, ActiveX is
> >>disabled. I will leave it to the interested reader to determine which
> >>of the above groups of Windows users is qualified to know how and when
> >>to enable it.
> >>
> >>It would appear that Microsoft has decided to go a different direction
> >>WRT to ActiveX. Those who are interested can Google for replacing
> >>ActiveX controls with user forms, .NET and several other options.
> >>Justified or not, this would appear to be the reality.
> >>
> >>Back in late 90s, before Firefox and Opera got their feet in the door,
> >>this was the mantra.
> >>
> >> The browser wars are over, and IE won. Get over it.
> >>
> >>Allow me to be the first.
> >>
> >> With the release of IE7, ActiveX is dead. Get over it.
> >
> > I am not trying to upset anyone - I am very thankful for all of the
> > support this, and other groups, have provided for me and my products. I
> > think my 99% issue was misread - I said "There are two browsers in use
> > by 99% of the surfing public" - Internet Explorer and Firefox - I
> > didn't say 99% used IE
> >
> > For instance, our stats as of right now today on SUPERAntiSpyware.com
> > is 79.74% Internet Explorer, 19.2% Firefox/Mozilla and the balance
> > everything else, just FYI. The SUPERAdBlocker.com stats are about the
> > same with IE @ 82.1% and FireFox/Mozzilla @ 17.3%
> >
> > I also didn't say, and I hope didn't imply, anyone was a "baffoon" or
> > "ignorant" because they did or didn't use ActiveX - I stated that
> > ActiveX was not bad - and simply have issue with the blanket "ActiveX
> > is bad".
> >
> > My point is that ActiveX is not bad - neither is XPI/XPCOM - both are
> > great technologies that are useful. Any technology can be exploited.
> >
> > I am not sure ActiveX will be "dead" with the release of IE7, as there
> > are still some native things that can't be done with the other methods
> > - but either way it will play out how it does
>
> Thanks for the opportunity to rant, Nick. Keep up the good work.
>
> The stats for SUPERAdBlocker surprise me, as I thought that SAB only
> worked with IE, based on this:
>
> "Super Ad Blocker supports Internet Explorer 5.0 and above, AOL 8.x
> and above, and MSN on Windows 98, 98SE, ME, 2000 and XP!"
>
> That's why I never looked into SUPERAdBlocker. BTW, I cannot imagine
> ever using only one browser again. For your stats, my browser usage:
>
> IE -> Microsoft Updates only, security settings at default, locked
> down at all other times.
> Opera -> Trusted browser. Javascript and first-party cookies enabled.
> Firefox -> Default browser, locked down. Some toggling of settings used.
> Netscape/SeaMonkey -> email/NNTP suites, browsers locked down.
> Thunderbird -> my wife's personal email. She uses Office 2003
> Professional (IE/Outlook) on her work laptop (Fortune 100 company).
>
> This WFM, and I find something that I like/dislike about all of them.
>
> Just based on a casual observation, the browser/client usages seem to
> vary between NNTP and the Web Fora. In the GRC NGs, for example, there
> appear to be tons of Opera users, perhaps even as many as the Mozilla
> users. Particularly since it went free.
>
> Ron

Ron - interesting data on the NNTP vs Web. I bet the NNTP stuff varies
quite a bit as not as many non-techie users do the newsgroup thing.

We do support Firefox with SUPERAdBlocker - have for over a year - it's
on the home page, product page and the logo is everywhere. Where did
you see that other text, I will promptly correct it!

-Nick

[---Fitz---]

Does that include NASA.gov?

"pcbutts1" <pcbutts1@seedsv.com> wrote in message
news:L5udncnh_74KDdvYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> 1. Microsoft Internet Explorer 75.75%
>
> 2. Netscape 15.15%
>
> 3. Opera/9.02 (Windows NT 5.0; U; en) 3.03%
>
> 4. Opera/9.02 (Windows NT 5.1; U; pl) 1.51%
>
>
> You are correct about IE and Active X. The stats above run about the same
> from all my sites.
>
<SNIP>

[Ron Lopshire]

Nick Skrepetos wrote:
> Ron Lopshire wrote:
>
>>Nick Skrepetos wrote:
>>>
>>>For instance, our stats as of right now today on SUPERAntiSpyware.com
>>>is 79.74% Internet Explorer, 19.2% Firefox/Mozilla and the balance
>>>everything else, just FYI. The SUPERAdBlocker.com stats are about the
>>>same with IE @ 82.1% and FireFox/Mozzilla @ 17.3%
>>>
>>Thanks for the opportunity to rant, Nick. Keep up the good work.
>>
>>The stats for SUPERAdBlocker surprise me, as I thought that SAB only
>>worked with IE, based on this:
>>
>>"Super Ad Blocker supports Internet Explorer 5.0 and above, AOL 8.x
>>and above, and MSN on Windows 98, 98SE, ME, 2000 and XP!"
>>
>>That's why I never looked into SUPERAdBlocker.
>>
>>Just based on a casual observation, the browser/client usages seem to
>>vary between NNTP and the Web Fora. In the GRC NGs, for example, there
>>appear to be tons of Opera users, perhaps even as many as the Mozilla
>>users. Particularly since it went free.
>
> Ron - interesting data on the NNTP vs Web. I bet the NNTP stuff varies
> quite a bit as not as many non-techie users do the newsgroup thing.
>
> We do support Firefox with SUPERAdBlocker - have for over a year - it's
> on the home page, product page and the logo is everywhere. Where did
> you see that other text, I will promptly correct it!

Nick,

I believe that I got that info from this page, but it appears to have
been corrected.

http://www.superadblocker.com/produc...adblocker.html

Quote: " Super Ad Blocker supports Internet Explorer 5.0 and above,
Firefox, AOL 8.x and above, and MSN on Windows 98, 98SE, ME, 2000 and XP!"

Good thing that I quoted the original. Otherwise I might think that I
was imagining things.

BTW, no problems with Firefox 2.0?

Ron

[Nick Skrepetos]

Ron Lopshire wrote:
> Nick Skrepetos wrote:
> > Ron Lopshire wrote:
> >
> >>Nick Skrepetos wrote:
> >>>
> >>>For instance, our stats as of right now today on SUPERAntiSpyware.com
> >>>is 79.74% Internet Explorer, 19.2% Firefox/Mozilla and the balance
> >>>everything else, just FYI. The SUPERAdBlocker.com stats are about the
> >>>same with IE @ 82.1% and FireFox/Mozzilla @ 17.3%
> >>>
> >>Thanks for the opportunity to rant, Nick. Keep up the good work.
> >>
> >>The stats for SUPERAdBlocker surprise me, as I thought that SAB only
> >>worked with IE, based on this:
> >>
> >>"Super Ad Blocker supports Internet Explorer 5.0 and above, AOL 8.x
> >>and above, and MSN on Windows 98, 98SE, ME, 2000 and XP!"
> >>
> >>That's why I never looked into SUPERAdBlocker.
> >>
> >>Just based on a casual observation, the browser/client usages seem to
> >>vary between NNTP and the Web Fora. In the GRC NGs, for example, there
> >>appear to be tons of Opera users, perhaps even as many as the Mozilla
> >>users. Particularly since it went free.
> >
> > Ron - interesting data on the NNTP vs Web. I bet the NNTP stuff varies
> > quite a bit as not as many non-techie users do the newsgroup thing.
> >
> > We do support Firefox with SUPERAdBlocker - have for over a year - it's
> > on the home page, product page and the logo is everywhere. Where did
> > you see that other text, I will promptly correct it!
>
> Nick,
>
> I believe that I got that info from this page, but it appears to have
> been corrected.
>
> http://www.superadblocker.com/produc...adblocker.html
>
> Quote: " Super Ad Blocker supports Internet Explorer 5.0 and above,
> Firefox, AOL 8.x and above, and MSN on Windows 98, 98SE, ME, 2000 and XP!"
>
> Good thing that I quoted the original. Otherwise I might think that I
> was imagining things.
>
> BTW, no problems with Firefox 2.0?
>
> Ron

Ron - we are working on Firefox 2.0 - the problem we face with Firefox
is that being open source people just change things internally with no
documentation or backward compatability - at least with IE they
maintain the "old" interfaces so things won't break. We should have the
support shortly. We always have to wait until almost "final" release
because of the "random" changes - that is the one big unfortunate thing
about open source.

-Nick

[Ron Lopshire]

Nick Skrepetos wrote:
> Ron Lopshire wrote:
>
>>Nick Skrepetos wrote:
>>
>>>Ron Lopshire wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nick Skrepetos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>For instance, our stats as of right now today on SUPERAntiSpyware.com
>>>>>is 79.74% Internet Explorer, 19.2% Firefox/Mozilla and the balance
>>>>>everything else, just FYI. The SUPERAdBlocker.com stats are about the
>>>>>same with IE @ 82.1% and FireFox/Mozzilla @ 17.3%
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the opportunity to rant, Nick. Keep up the good work.
>>>>
>>>>The stats for SUPERAdBlocker surprise me, as I thought that SAB only
>>>>worked with IE, based on this:
>>>>
>>>>"Super Ad Blocker supports Internet Explorer 5.0 and above, AOL 8.x
>>>>and above, and MSN on Windows 98, 98SE, ME, 2000 and XP!"
>>>>
>>>>That's why I never looked into SUPERAdBlocker.
>>>>
>>>>Just based on a casual observation, the browser/client usages seem to
>>>>vary between NNTP and the Web Fora. In the GRC NGs, for example, there
>>>>appear to be tons of Opera users, perhaps even as many as the Mozilla
>>>>users. Particularly since it went free.
>>>
>>>Ron - interesting data on the NNTP vs Web. I bet the NNTP stuff varies
>>>quite a bit as not as many non-techie users do the newsgroup thing.
>>>
>>>We do support Firefox with SUPERAdBlocker - have for over a year - it's
>>>on the home page, product page and the logo is everywhere. Where did
>>>you see that other text, I will promptly correct it!
>>
>>I believe that I got that info from this page, but it appears to have
>>been corrected.
>>
>> http://www.superadblocker.com/produc...adblocker.html
>>
>>Quote: " Super Ad Blocker supports Internet Explorer 5.0 and above,
>>Firefox, AOL 8.x and above, and MSN on Windows 98, 98SE, ME, 2000 and XP!"
>>
>>Good thing that I quoted the original. Otherwise I might think that I
>>was imagining things.
>>
>>BTW, no problems with Firefox 2.0?
>
> Ron - we are working on Firefox 2.0 - the problem we face with Firefox
> is that being open source people just change things internally with no
> documentation or backward compatability - at least with IE they
> maintain the "old" interfaces so things won't break. We should have the
> support shortly. We always have to wait until almost "final" release
> because of the "random" changes - that is the one big unfortunate thing
> about open source.

Thanks, Nick. Lots of people complaining in the FF NGs about features
that were removed in FF 2.0 with no warning. Some of them, such as the
Get Mail feature, should never have been added in the first place, but
once you add something to a popular app, taking it away ruffles a lot
of feathers.

And you are correct about Open Source. Contrary to the what the
Polyannas, altruists and socialists would have you believe, Open
Source is no panacea when it comes to software development. Ya takes
the good with the bad. [g]

Ron