Windows Defender out of beta

[History Fan]

Finally. Final version now available for download.

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

[Heather]

"History Fan" <UnknownplacesonEarth@unknown11.com> wrote in message
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> Finally. Final version now available for download.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

No thanks!! It messed up my System Restore Points and once I removed
it, they were being made properly once again.

I realize one shouldn't go back more than a week or 10 days with SR, but
I didn't like how it wiped out 2 months of Restore Points, yet often
made 3 or more of its own on the same day.

YMMV....Heather

[Mr. Slow]

"Heather" <greeneggs@ndspam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "History Fan" <UnknownplacesonEarth@unknown11.com> wrote in message
> news:ba8d9$453e28bf$48311160$6072@FUSE.NET...
> > Finally. Final version now available for download.
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
>
> No thanks!! It messed up my System Restore Points and once I removed
> it, they were being made properly once again.
>
> I realize one shouldn't go back more than a week or 10 days with SR, but
> I didn't like how it wiped out 2 months of Restore Points, yet often
> made 3 or more of its own on the same day.
>
> YMMV....Heather

Also, supports only Win XP SP2 (or later!)


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[Andy Walker]

Mr. Slow wrote:

>
>"Heather" <greeneggs@ndspam.com> wrote in message
>news:ehleug$u1o$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> "History Fan" <UnknownplacesonEarth@unknown11.com> wrote in message
>> news:ba8d9$453e28bf$48311160$6072@FUSE.NET...
>> > Finally. Final version now available for download.
>> >
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
>>
>> No thanks!! It messed up my System Restore Points and once I removed
>> it, they were being made properly once again.
>>
>> I realize one shouldn't go back more than a week or 10 days with SR, but
>> I didn't like how it wiped out 2 months of Restore Points, yet often
>> made 3 or more of its own on the same day.
>>
>> YMMV....Heather
>
>Also, supports only Win XP SP2 (or later!)

Not to mention the questionable "standards" that M$ uses to define
"malware". There is certainly a conflict of interest when M$ has to
make a decision about the usefulness of one of their "partners'"
software/eula/ethics...etc.

I recently attended a week long security love-fest with M$ and they
were touting Vista(tinv) as the be-all-end-all of your OS security
needs. They are even claiming that third-party security apps will be
"fluff" because they cannot do the job Vista will do inherently.

TBH, I'm looking forward to the mainstream acceptance of Vista, and
from the technical description of security improvements made by M$,
there is definitely a positive mind-shift by M$ to get it right, but I
don't for a mini ute believe (as claimed by their security brain
trusts), that they have discovered all of the un-thinkable ways in
which someone will circumvent their well-layed...er...vista.

[Kayman]

If you're game try this:

Microsoft Knowledge Base: 256986

(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/256986/)

Description of the Microsoft Windows registry
--
Start, run, Regedit <enter>

Navigate to:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Scan

Right click that folder in the left tree view, and choose "Permissions"
With your username highlighted, click Full Control in the Allow column,
and "Apply"

With the Scan folder highlighted choose:

Edit, New, DWORD value, and type in "DisableRestorePoint"
and hit enter.

Double-click DisableRestorePoint in the right column, and set the Value to
1, hexadecimal.

Right-click Scan in the left tree view, and choose "Permissions"
With your username highlighted, Uncheck "Full Control" in the Allow
column, and "Apply"

Close the registry editor by hitting the X in the upper right corner, or
File, Exit.
---
Good luck

[Heather]

Thank you, Kayman. I did uninstall Windows Defender totally. But I
will keep this as a just in case.

I am not all that well versed in working on the Registry, so would have
a couple of questions before doing this.

Cheers.....Heather

"Kayman" <khkay@-invalid-mail.org> wrote in message
news:ehn3o2$21v$1@aioe.server.aioe.org...
> If you're game try this:
>
> Microsoft Knowledge Base: 256986
>
> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/256986/)
>
> Description of the Microsoft Windows registry
> --
> Start, run, Regedit <enter>
>
> Navigate to:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Scan
>
> Right click that folder in the left tree view, and choose
> "Permissions"
> With your username highlighted, click Full Control in the Allow
> column,
> and "Apply"
>
> With the Scan folder highlighted choose:
>
> Edit, New, DWORD value, and type in "DisableRestorePoint"
> and hit enter.
>
> Double-click DisableRestorePoint in the right column, and set the
> Value to
> 1, hexadecimal.
>
> Right-click Scan in the left tree view, and choose "Permissions"
> With your username highlighted, Uncheck "Full Control" in the Allow
> column, and "Apply"
>
> Close the registry editor by hitting the X in the upper right corner,
> or
> File, Exit.
> ---
> Good luck
>

[James E. Morrow]

In article <el7tj21ehacl6qq5r6rn84hcqbih0hfll0@news.webtv.com >,
awalker@nspank.invalid says...

<snip>

> I recently attended a week long security love-fest with M$ and they
> were touting Vista(tinv) as the be-all-end-all of your OS security
> needs. They are even claiming that third-party security apps will be
> "fluff" because they cannot do the job Vista will do inherently.
>
> TBH, I'm looking forward to the mainstream acceptance of Vista, and
> from the technical description of security improvements made by M$,
> there is definitely a positive mind-shift by M$ to get it right, but I
> don't for a mini ute believe (as claimed by their security brain
> trusts), that they have discovered all of the un-thinkable ways in
> which someone will circumvent their well-layed...er...vista.
>
>
>

The word that best describes Microsoft is *hubris* followed by
arrogant. It's good to see that they now attach a high level of
importance it security. Sadly they think they have mastered it.

I'm sure the rest of the group would like to hear more about the
Microsoft confab.

--
James E. Morrow
Email to: jamesemorrow@email.com

[Kayman]

Heather;

Downloaded W/D (Final) 26 Oct. 06.

WindowsDefender v1.1.1592.0
Engine v1.1.1609.0
Definition v1.14.1736.7

Happy to notice that as of to date System Restore Points are no more
produced
It seems the bug has been ironed out by the final version of W/D.

Kayman.

[Heather]

"Kayman" <khkay@-invalid-mail.org> wrote in message
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> Heather;
>
> Downloaded W/D (Final) 26 Oct. 06.
>
> WindowsDefender v1.1.1592.0
> Engine v1.1.1609.0
> Definition v1.14.1736.7
>
> Happy to notice that as of to date System Restore Points are no more
> produced
> It seems the bug has been ironed out by the final version of W/D.
>
> Kayman.

Thank you very much for letting me know. I will give it a try.

Cheers.....Heather
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