> You really should ignore Leythos his fix for everything is a wipe and reload.
Read
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...mt/sm0504.mspx
and think again. If even MS says that, there must be something in it.
Gabriele Neukam
Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam@t-online.de
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Mister wrote:
> Normally I would just let this go, but...
> Far Canal reminds me of the tough guy who wants to beat up the loud
> guy at a party,
We prefer them to ****witted top-posters like you. Bugger off!
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:41:00 GMT, David H. Lipman wrote:
> If you are going to make a blanket statement, add backing up the data such as creating a
> Ghost image of the platform PRIOR to wiping the PC.
Um, I would have thought that is common knowledge, no?
Crispy Critter wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:41:00 GMT, David H. Lipman wrote:
>
>
>> If you are going to make a blanket statement, add backing up the data such as creating a
>> Ghost image of the platform PRIOR to wiping the PC.
>
> Um, I would have thought that is common knowledge, no?
You make the assumption that knowledge is common! It isn't!
Regards
Lee
From: "Lee" <glog@sympatico.ca>
| Crispy Critter wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:41:00 GMT, David H. Lipman wrote:
>>
>>> If you are going to make a blanket statement, add backing up the data such as creating a
>>> Ghost image of the platform PRIOR to wiping the PC.
>>
>> Um, I would have thought that is common knowledge, no?
|
| You make the assumption that knowledge is common! It isn't!
| Regards
| Lee
Agreed. It needs to be stated.
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Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
Gabriele Neukam wrote:
>> You really should ignore Leythos his fix for everything is a wipe and
>> reload.
>
> Read
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...mt/sm0504.mspx
>
> and think again. If even MS says that, there must be something in it.
since when did microsoft become an authority on how to deal with
compromised systems? you'll note that their list of what doesn't work
doesn't include booting from known clean media to remove the problem...
they're so clueless about the value of clean booting they actually tried
to redefine the term...
rebuilding a system is often expedient but certainly not necessary...
--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"
From: "kurt wismer" <kurtw@sympatico.ca>
| Gabriele Neukam wrote:
>>> You really should ignore Leythos his fix for everything is a wipe and
>>> reload.
>>
>> Read
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...mt/sm0504.mspx
>>
>> and think again. If even MS says that, there must be something in it.
|
| since when did microsoft become an authority on how to deal with
| compromised systems? you'll note that their list of what doesn't work
| doesn't include booting from known clean media to remove the problem...
| they're so clueless about the value of clean booting they actually tried
| to redefine the term...
|
| rebuilding a system is often expedient but certainly not necessary...
|
I think it needs a Cost Benefit Analysis (CBA) based upon the sheer number and type of
infections and balanced upon the capability of the person doing it.
--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
David H. Lipman wrote:
> I think it needs a Cost Benefit Analysis (CBA) based upon the sheer number and type of
> infections and balanced upon the capability of the person doing it.
Okay, the obvious solution of backing-up and rebuilding is perfectly
valid, and the best way to do fix a badly infected infected PC in many
cases - but not all cases.
There are many cases, when the rebuilding method is just not practical:
missing or damaged CDs, missing registration numbers, owner of the PC
does not know where data is hidden, owner of the PC just does not like
the idea. And I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons.
So, let's say the rebuild method is method number #1 and is the
prefered method. What is another method?
I have heard about a person who keeps his copy of the ubcd on a cdrw,
and updates it every day. Not sure how that works.
Maybe AV and and anit-spyware software could be kept on a usb drive,
then boot from bart's or ubcd, and run the anti-malware software from
the usb drive? I don't know if that would actually work, I feel sure it
would not work with Symantec or McAfee, might work with some other AV
software.
David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "kurt wismer" <kurtw@sympatico.ca>
[snip]
> | rebuilding a system is often expedient but certainly not necessary...
>
> I think it needs a Cost Benefit Analysis (CBA) based upon the sheer number and type of
> infections and balanced upon the capability of the person doing it.
i think the activation limitations in vista may just change the cost
part of the equation considerably...
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"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"
kurt wismer wrote:
>David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "kurt wismer" <kurtw@sympatico.ca>
>[snip]
>> | rebuilding a system is often expedient but certainly not necessary...
>>
>> I think it needs a Cost Benefit Analysis (CBA) based upon the sheer number and type of
>> infections and balanced upon the capability of the person doing it.
>
>i think the activation limitations in vista may just change the cost
>part of the equation considerably...
A base line disk image would make the job a lot easier and eliminate
the problem with re-activation of products (unless, of course, they
are subscription based and the license has run out when you reuse the
base line image.
I always make a base line image of all my systems, and then do
periodic full images in between incremental images.
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