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    *Prot3anThr3ad* Guest

    if IE7 is a stand-a-lone application now

    then does that mean that the bugs and security holes from IE 6 are
    still in my machine ?


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    angel amly Guest

    Re: if IE7 is a stand-a-lone application now


    *Prot3anThr3ad* wrote:
    > then does that mean that the bugs and security holes from IE 6 are
    > still in my machine ?


    yes if you haven;t delet.


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    Ivan Tisljar Guest

    Re: if IE7 is a stand-a-lone application now

    On 25 Oct 2006 1848 -0700, "*Prot3anThr3ad*" <rtdos@rtdos.com>
    wrote:

    >then does that mean that the bugs and security holes from IE 6 are
    >still in my machine ?


    Can you start IE6?

    No, you can't.

    IE7 is update for IE6, replacing all the exe and dll files needed.

    Ivan.

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    *Prot3anThr3ad* Guest

    Re: if IE7 is a stand-a-lone application now

    i don't know; something doesn't seem right; before microsoft said that
    you can't keep the OS and IE separate due to design (remember the NS
    lawsuite) now they are saying you can?


    Ivan Tisljar wrote:
    > On 25 Oct 2006 1848 -0700, "*Prot3anThr3ad*" <rtdos@rtdos.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >then does that mean that the bugs and security holes from IE 6 are
    > >still in my machine ?

    >
    > Can you start IE6?
    >
    > No, you can't.
    >
    > IE7 is update for IE6, replacing all the exe and dll files needed.
    >
    > Ivan.
    >
    > --
    >
    > Roses are #FF0000
    > Violets are #0000FF
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    >
    > http://hlloyge.kickme.to/
    > delete _system_ to mail me



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    Ivan Tisljar Guest

    Re: if IE7 is a stand-a-lone application now

    On 26 Oct 2006 12:44:52 -0700, "*Prot3anThr3ad*" <rtdos@rtdos.com>
    wrote:

    >i don't know; something doesn't seem right; before microsoft said that
    >you can't keep the OS and IE separate due to design (remember the NS
    >lawsuite) now they are saying you can?


    Where do you see them separate? IE7 is just one upgrade for IE6; exe
    file version is noved to the next big one, icon is changed; but there
    isn't really any difference in design.

    Ivan.

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    Lukas Mariman Guest

    Re: if IE7 is a stand-a-lone application now


    "*Prot3anThr3ad*" <rtdos@rtdos.com> schreef in bericht
    news:1161891892.092860.63210@e3g2000cwe.googlegrou ps.com...
    >i don't know; something doesn't seem right; before microsoft said that
    > you can't keep the OS and IE separate due to design (remember the NS
    > lawsuite) now they are saying you can?


    They used to say that, yes, but were they telling the truth?



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    Stephen Howe Guest

    Re: if IE7 is a stand-a-lone application now

    > then does that mean that the bugs and security holes from IE 6 are
    > still in my machine ?


    No. But you will now have a totally new of unknown bugs present in IE7 which
    we are all waiting to discover.
    Really depends on how thorough MS's Beta period was for IE7

    Stephen Howe





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    Ze Muffinman Guest

    Re: if IE7 is a stand-a-lone application now

    Of course, you won't have to worry about /any/ of that crap if you just
    install Firefox.


  9. #9
    Fuzzy Logic Guest

    Re: if IE7 is a stand-a-lone application now

    "Ze Muffinman" <truemuffinman@poetictimes.com> wrote in news:1161999411.033622.104260
    @h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

    > Of course, you won't have to worry about /any/ of that crap if you just
    > install Firefox.


    Regardless of the browser you use you have to worry about crap. Here is the history of security flaws in FF:

    http://www.mozilla.org/projects/secu...abilities.html

    No browser is secure and it's relative security varies from day to day, patch to patch. Even the head security
    person at Mozilla will not state the FF is more secure than IE:

    http://news.com.com/2102-7355_3-6117...=st.util.print

    I would argue that the biggest security risk with a properly maintained system is not the software you use but
    the person at the keyboard. To illustrate this point:

    http://outside.arc.ab.ca/staff/erkamp/security.jpg

    Social engineering will defeat most 'secure' systems, just ask Kevin Mitnick.

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    Andy Walker Guest

    Re: if IE7 is a stand-a-lone application now

    Fuzzy Logic wrote:

    >Social engineering will defeat most 'secure' systems


    For a good read on that subject try Ira Winkler's book "Spies Among
    Us"[1]. Social engineering is the scariest thing imaginable to
    security professionals because people are far too trusting/curious by
    their nature.

    Andy

    [1] http://www.irawinkler.com/

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