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Thread: Privacy/Security: How to change my IP address daily or weekly on DSL

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    Aluxe Guest

    Privacy/Security: How to change my IP address daily or weekly on DSL

    Isn't there a much easier way to get a new IP address every day?

    As an added measure of privacy & security, I like to change my IP address
    approximately two or three times a week.

    Currently I unplug the DSL router and plug it back in (it doesn't have an
    on/off switch). Likewise, I unplug and plug back in my wireless router (why
    don't these things have a simple on/off switch?). I turn off my Windows XP
    computer. I leave the whole setup in the off state for various periods of
    time (depending on what's going on that day). Then I reboot this entire
    setup in sequence.

    Often, (about three quarters of the time), that clears the old IP address
    and gets me a new IP address where I can start fresh.

    But, about a quarter of the time, I can't get connected to the Internet
    when it all boots back up. I have to fiddle around for fifteen or twenty
    minutes until I can get reconnected (killing the software firewall,
    powering the dsl modem down, powering the linksys router down, removing the
    cat5 cables, waiting 30 seconds, powering back up in sequence, rehooking
    the cat5 cables, resetting the linksys router passwords and settings,
    re-enabling the software firewall, etc.).

    You guys are smarter than I am.
    Is there an easier more reliable way to get a new IP address every day?
    If there is ... pray tell ...

    What is the easiest way to change my DSL IP address periodically?

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    Aluxe Guest

    Re: Privacy/Security: How to change my IP address daily or weekly on DSL

    On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:56:34 GMT, Walter Roberson wrote:
    >>What is the easiest way to change my DSL IP address periodically?

    >
    > Dial-up.


    I do use dial-up on occasion. Netzero can be used when you need to send
    those private message you don't want anyone to trace. But dialup is
    painfully slow compared to dsl.

    Isn't there a software way to give up an IP address overnight and then ask
    for a new one in the morning without having to unplug everything?

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    Aluxe Guest

    Re: Privacy/Security: How to change my IP address daily or weekly on DSL

    On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:09:21 +0100, Greg Hennessy wrote:
    >>As an added measure of privacy & security, I like to change my IP address
    >>approximately two or three times a week.

    >
    > A pointless waste of time and effort, giving you neither privacy or
    > security.


    All security is pointless if you think your way.
    There are big things you can do to raise security and little things.

    Big things are obvious (like locking your car doors or not doing personal
    email at work).

    But, little security measures add up too.

    Each little thing (like rolling up your windows or like driving a different
    way to work each day) helps turn off the bad guy who is looking for an easy
    steal.

    Some of the little things, like changing your MAC address, WPA keys, login,
    password, and IP address periodically are well known and often advocated.

    Why do you think only big security measures are useful?

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    Aluxe Guest

    Re: Privacy/Security: How to change my IP address daily or weekly on DSL

    On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:28:24 GMT, Stuart Miller wrote:
    > First - what do you seek to accomplish by the frequent changes?


    Hi Stuart,

    Thank you for taking the time to ask a probing question. I understand the
    concept of security in that it comprises little things and big things
    together.

    Adding big things, like turning on a firewall, using strong encryption,
    shutting down the computer when not in use, etc. are, of course, additive
    to security.

    Little things, like changing the password, changing the MAC address,
    changing the SSID, changing the IP address, etc., are also additive to
    security.

    The whole point is to make the bad guys do more work to follow your
    footsteps and invade on your privacy.

    For example, I seal my snail mail. I lick that horrid tasting envelope and
    I shut it down tight. Do I think that will stop a determined snooper. No
    way. But I do it as a "little thing" to enhance my security.

    Anyone who seals their envelope should understand why I'd want to change my
    IP address periodically.

    The question is "What is the easiest way to release that lease on the IP
    address such that it is easy to regain a new IP address in a few hours'
    time?".

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    Aluxe Guest

    Re: Privacy/Security: How to change my IP address daily or weekly on DSL

    On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:33:24 -0800, Dana wrote:
    >> All I'm trying to do is get a different IP address in an easier (read
    >> software) way.

    >
    > There is really no need to do that.
    > What are you trying to accomplish, we may have a different solution for you.


    Hi Dana,

    I want to enhance my privacy in a lot of little ways.

    For example, do you know who I REALLY am?
    My name. My address. My employer. My ISP. My phone. My MAC ID. My SSID. My
    IP address. My operating system. My habits. My country of origin. My
    newsreader, My spouse. My school. My bank. etc.

    Some of these things, you DO know!

    For example, you can easily see my ISP and my newsreader and my IP address
    .... and if you dig a bit further, you can connect to some of the rest of
    the things in this list above (and more). Just like a carnivore, tracking
    down prey. A whole bunch of little clues lead to the unsuspecting clueless
    innocent prey.

    I just want to change my tracks by changing my IP address in an easier way
    (read software rather than hardware) than shutting down the dsl modem and
    router.

    Is there an easier way to release an IP address to gain a new one a few
    hours later (say overnight)?

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    Aluxe Guest

    Re: Privacy/Security: How to change my IP address daily or weekly on DSL

    On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:31:28 -0800, Dana wrote:
    > A little script will do this.
    >> I have a few computers on the home network,
    >> so I wonder if I go to each and
    >> do an ipconfig /release it would work?

    >
    > You may get the same IP from your ISP


    Hi Dana,
    Thank you again for your willingness to help approach a technical problem.

    Previously I answered (as best I could) WHY I want to do this small bit of
    privacy enhancement (it's similar to the reason there are little walls
    between telephones attached to a hotel lobby).

    A lot of little things enhance privacy and security; changing ones IP
    address periodically is a little change of direction that helps prevent
    carnivores from tracking down their innocent sleeping prey.

    Back to the technical aspect of the problem ... I found that I need at
    least an hour of down time before the ISP will release the lease on the IP
    address. That's OK as I generally do it overnight (which always gets me a
    new IP address).

    So, let's assume that, say, 5 hours of down time always gets me a new IP.
    What is a software way to accomplish that task (bearing in mind there is a
    dsl modem and linksys router in between the computers and the ISP).

    Do you think that writing a script to run an "ipconfig /release" on every
    WinXP computer inside the home network would cause the ISP to release the
    IP address. Wouldn't the DSL modem or router (which dials back periodically
    into the ISP) maintain the connection even without computers on the home
    side?

    Is there a way to tell the linksys router to only dial in when we want to
    (without shutting it down which is what I do today to accomplish the same
    task)?

    The technical solution must be out there ... does anyone know enough about
    home networks to help out?

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    Aluxe Guest

    Re: Privacy/Security: How to change my IP address daily or weekly on DSL

    On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:39:13 -0800, Dana wrote:
    > If you are more concerned about being annoymous on the internet, check into
    > proxy connections to the internet.


    Yes. This is the most important concern.

    What is a "proxy connection".
    I once set a 'proxy server' on a browser but it was horribly slow.
    But that was way back in 1995 so maybe things are different now.

    Is there a way to send this newsgroup message and have more privacy than I
    have now?

    For example, you already know (just from this message):
    - My ISP
    - My MAC (unique)
    - My IP address (temporary)
    - My Town (you get this from my IP address)
    - My Newsreader
    - My Operating System
    (what else can you tell from this one news post?)

    How can I post to the usenet without giving you all that information?

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    Aluxe Guest

    Re: Privacy/Security: How to change my IP address daily or weekly on DSL

    On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:43:05 GMT, David H. Lipman wrote:
    > Please remove alt.privacy.spyware as there is no non-viral malware relation to this
    > thread.


    Hi David,
    If we accomplish this task, we enhance privacy for sure.
    And we might even prevent a virus (by being more anonymous).
    Isn't that related to privacy and spyware?

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    David H. Lipman Guest

    Re: Privacy/Security: How to change my IP address daily or weekly on DSL

    From: "Aluxe" <aluxelocochon@yahoo.com>

    | On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:43:05 GMT, David H. Lipman wrote:
    >> Please remove alt.privacy.spyware as there is no non-viral malware relation to this
    >> thread.

    |
    | Hi David,
    | If we accomplish this task, we enhance privacy for sure.
    | And we might even prevent a virus (by being more anonymous).
    | Isn't that related to privacy and spyware?

    NO and please respect you own group-follow-ups.

    Your posts are on Computer Security (COMSEC) in general and alt.computer.security is the
    most apropos News Group for your subject matter. Not all the other groups you are posting
    to.

    --
    Dave
    http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
    http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



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