Had been using Ad-Aware and finally added Spybot S&D and was annoyed to
have it report several infections that Ad-Aware ignored. What is the
overlap between these two programs?
Also have a problem with ChkDisk if TeaTimer is running. Normal?
win98se/Zonealarm/GrisoftAVG/AdAware/Spybot S&D + Teatimer/Firefox
browser
galt_57@hotmail.com wrote:
> Had been using Ad-Aware and finally added Spybot S&D and was annoyed
> to have it report several infections that Ad-Aware ignored. What is
> the overlap between these two programs?
Ad-aware detects and removes adware infections that it knows about
Spybot S&D detects and removes spyware infections that it knows about
Sometimes they overlap but be thankful that they detect and remove
infections and they are _free_.
> Also have a problem with ChkDisk if TeaTimer is running. Normal?
I don't run TeaTimer. It freezes my system often for 2-3 seconds at a time.
I use WinPatrol which has much more monitoring events and does not hang my
system.
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 11:53:15 -0400, "CalamityKen" <YKnot@home.invalid>
wrote:
>galt_57@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Had been using Ad-Aware and finally added Spybot S&D and was annoyed
>> to have it report several infections that Ad-Aware ignored. What is
>> the overlap between these two programs?
>
>Ad-aware detects and removes adware infections that it knows about
>Spybot S&D detects and removes spyware infections that it knows about
>
>Sometimes they overlap but be thankful that they detect and remove
>infections and they are _free_.
>
>> Also have a problem with ChkDisk if TeaTimer is running. Normal?
>
>I don't run TeaTimer. It freezes my system often for 2-3 seconds at a time.
>
>I use WinPatrol which has much more monitoring events and does not hang my
>system.
Teatimer works fine,.. even alongsode Scotty the watchdog. yes thet do
often overlap,.. but not always. I have not deceided yet which one
i'll keep. So both do their job fine. Teatimer is a bit more discrete.
But teatimer does not work well alongside soft like Prevx.
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NonDisputandum.com wrote:
>
> Teatimer works fine,.. even alongsode Scotty the watchdog.
> yes thet do often overlap,.. but not always. I have not deceided
> yet which one i'll keep. So both do their job fine. Teatimer is
> a bit more discrete.
>
> But teatimer does not work well alongside soft like Prevx.
>
I decided to take Teatimer off. It must not get along with something.
Always expect the results of these spyware detectors
to vary from one to another. Thats why sensible people
tend to use 2 or 3 different ones.
Mike L.
<galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Had been using Ad-Aware and finally added Spybot S&D and was
annoyed to
have it report several infections that Ad-Aware ignored.
What is the
overlap between these two programs?
Also have a problem with ChkDisk if TeaTimer is running.
Normal?
win98se/Zonealarm/GrisoftAVG/AdAware/Spybot S&D +
Teatimer/Firefox
browser
galt_57@hotmail.com wrote:
> Had been using Ad-Aware and finally added Spybot S&D and was annoyed
> to have it report several infections that Ad-Aware ignored. What is
> the overlap between these two programs?
>
> Also have a problem with ChkDisk if TeaTimer is running. Normal?
>
> win98se/Zonealarm/GrisoftAVG/AdAware/Spybot S&D + Teatimer/Firefox
> browser
>
>
Since you're using Firefox, what infections are these programs reporting?
ted s. wrote:
> galt_57@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Had been using Ad-Aware and finally added Spybot S&D and was
> > annoyed to have it report several infections that Ad-Aware
> > ignored. What is the overlap between these two programs?
> >
> > Also have a problem with ChkDisk if TeaTimer is running. Normal?
> >
> > win98se/Zonealarm/GrisoftAVG/AdAware/Spybot S&D + Teatimer/Firefox
> > browser
> >
> Since you're using Firefox, what infections are these programs
> reporting?
Alexa related
Winsecure
DyFuCa
Popmonster
Radiate
....and also something strange related to an IE registry entry that came
up as 'WildTangent' and then 'CleverIEHooker' and then 'ShopAtHome.' I
finally went in with regedit and deleted the offending key and that
made Spybot happy.
But do these predate my switch to Firefox? I don't know. I had been
presuming that Ad-Aware had the same coverage as Spybot S&D, but
apparently these two programs are nothing like each other.
On 6 Apr 2005 08:15:18 -0700, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, galt_57@hotmail.com
wrote:
>
> Had been using Ad-Aware and finally added Spybot S&D and was annoyed to
> have it report several infections that Ad-Aware ignored.
[snip]
Why were you "annoyed" by that? This, after all, is the point of having more
than one tool in your bag -- each will potentially catch some things that the
other doesn't.
> What is the
> overlap between these two programs?
>
[snip]
Considerable, but not complete.
> Also have a problem with ChkDisk if TeaTimer is running. Normal?
>
[snip]
I wouldn't call it "normal"; but that sort of thing is certainly not unheard
of. I tend to dislike full-time/resident "nagging nanny" programs for
precisely this reason (among others). As a general rule, if you are not doing
foolish things with your computer, TeaTimer *shouldn't* be necessary.
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Jay T. Blocksom wrote:
> galt_57@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Had been using Ad-Aware and finally added Spybot S&D and
> > was annoyed to have it report several infections that
> > Ad-Aware ignored.
> > [snip]
>
> Why were you "annoyed" by that? This, after all, is the
> point of having more than one tool in your bag -- each will
> potentially catch some things that the other doesn't.
Because that view is problematic. How many program are needed for
reasonable protection? Two? Three? Five? Twenty?
> > What is the overlap between these two programs?
> > [snip]
>
> Considerable, but not complete.
Well, I had previously hoped that the only difference between these
programs would be their internal methodology, but that they would both
try to cover the known spyware/adware threats, so if Spybot S&D found
something that Ad-Aware didn't it would only be a matter of an update
or two and then Ad-Aware would also cover that specific threat. I no
longer believe that to be the case. It would be nice to compare the
list of known threats that each program claims to cover, but I don't
believe this info is made available.
On 9 Apr 2005 07:44:39 -0700, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, galt_57@hotmail.com
wrote:
>
> Jay T. Blocksom wrote:
[snip]
> >
> > Why were you "annoyed" by that? This, after all, is the
> > point of having more than one tool in your bag -- each will
> > potentially catch some things that the other doesn't.
>
> Because that view is problematic. How many program are needed for
> reasonable protection? Two? Three? Five? Twenty?
>
[snip]
In this particular case, two -- the very same two we're discussing ATM in
fact.
> > > What is the overlap between these two programs?
> > > [snip]
> >
> > Considerable, but not complete.
>
> Well, I had previously hoped that the only difference between these
> programs would be their internal methodology, but that they would both
> try to cover the known spyware/adware threats,
[snip]
That's pretty close to the actual situation.
> ...so if Spybot S&D found
> something that Ad-Aware didn't it would only be a matter of an update
> or two and then Ad-Aware would also cover that specific threat. I no
> longer believe that to be the case. It would be nice to compare the
> list of known threats that each program claims to cover, but I don't
> believe this info is made available.
And by the time you got the comparison done, it would be obsolete.
Rather than chase your tail worrying about why the programs do not produce
identical results (one obvious reason for that being they each have different
criteria for what they consider a "threat"), take solace in the fact that if
each of them cover 90% of all "threat"s (pretty close to the case, I'd say),
then arithmetic tells us that between them, they'll likely cover approximately
99% -- and beyond that point, it's not worth worrying about.
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