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  1. #51
    Jay T. Blocksom Guest

    Re: Anti-spyware recommendation

    On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:44:07 -0700 (PDT), in <alt.privacy.spyware>, A.Melon
    <juicy@melontraffickers.com> wrote:
    >

    [snip]
    >
    > Don't tell me otherwise. I was a pimply teenager and it was the
    > first film I ever went to see.
    >

    [snip]

    Heh. We're obviously about the same age.

    I had a 3x4-foot poster of her (the folded-arms/legs "beach shot" if you
    recall it) on my bedroom wall at my family's shore home, during the same
    period -- which I lusted at regularly. <~>

    And she's *still* not bad, for a "senior citizen"...

    <http://www.2004celebrityforecasts.com/celeb/Image102.gif>

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  2. #52
    Jay T. Blocksom Guest

    Re: Anti-spyware recommendation

    On 7 Apr 2005 14:26:06 -0700, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, "AvianFlux"
    <neomoniker@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > Thanks for that, Jay T. I think I learned something today.

    [snip]

    Then it is a good day.

    > While it may
    > be true in the extreme sense that you can't trust online antivirus
    > scanners, when you get right down to it, the very same could be said
    > for the resident antivirus apps. people install and trust.
    >

    [snip]

    It's not so much about trusting the AV vendor or program, online or otherwise.
    It's about trusting _your_machine_ -- which at that point, you *can't*.

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  3. #53
    A.Melon Guest

    Re: Anti-spyware recommendation

    In article
    <555c51l6k1rhs07fpf2h0o2dipfc8vqd4b@news.speakeasy .net>
    Jay T. Blocksom <not.deliverable+usenet02@appropriate-tech.net>
    wrote:
    >
    > On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:44:07 -0700 (PDT), in <alt.privacy.spyware>, A.Melon
    > <juicy@melontraffickers.com> wrote:
    > >

    > [snip]
    > >
    > > Don't tell me otherwise. I was a pimply teenager and it was the
    > > first film I ever went to see.
    > >

    > [snip]
    >
    > Heh. We're obviously about the same age.


    I reckon so, cos I listen to your advice, and use it, but I like
    the functionality of Windows, and I'll stick with Win2K until
    somebody comes up with a Linux variety that sets itself up just
    as easily, and I'm not taking out IE until they stop supporting
    Win2K, but I only use it for updates.

    >
    > I had a 3x4-foot poster of her (the folded-arms/legs "beach shot" if you
    > recall it) on my bedroom wall at my family's shore home, during the same
    > period -- which I lusted at regularly. <~>
    >
    > And she's *still* not bad, for a "senior citizen"...
    >
    > <http://www.2004celebrityforecasts.com/celeb/Image102.gif>


    Hey, try http://www.postershop.com/Fonda-Jane-m.htm


  4. #54
    Jay T. Blocksom Guest

    Re: Anti-spyware recommendation

    On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 01:25:08 -0700 (PDT), in <alt.privacy.spyware>, A.Melon
    <juicy@melontraffickers.com> wrote:
    >
    > In article
    > <555c51l6k1rhs07fpf2h0o2dipfc8vqd4b@news.speakeasy .net>
    > Jay T. Blocksom <not.deliverable+usenet02@appropriate-tech.net>
    > wrote:
    > >

    [snip]
    > >
    > > Heh. We're obviously about the same age.

    >
    > I reckon so, cos I listen to your advice, and use it,

    [snip]

    Glad to hear it.

    > but I like
    > the functionality of Windows, and I'll stick with Win2K until
    > somebody comes up with a Linux variety that sets itself up just
    > as easily,

    [snip]

    Well, at least it's not XP (yuck!).

    As for Linux... It's definitely getting there. I won't claim that the
    installation and initial configuration is as idiot-proof as Windows usually
    is; but it's not onerous either, as long as your hardware isn't really screwy.
    And besides, that's only a one-time issue; once it's set up correctly,
    ease-of-use is just about on a par, if not superior.

    If you want to "dip your toe in" without having to actually commit to
    anything, or even slightly "risk" your current setup, check out Knoppix
    <http://www.knoppix.net/>. You can download an .ISO, burn it to CD-R, then
    boot and run what is essentially Debian Linux directly off that CD-R, with
    full access to your existing data files, peripherals, and so on. When you
    want to go back to Windows, just remove the CD-R from the drive and reboot.
    It couldn't possibly be more painless.

    > and I'm not taking out IE until they stop supporting
    > Win2K, but I only use it for updates.
    >

    [snip]

    Eeeewww.

    You do realize that you do *not* need MSIE to keep Win2K "updated", right?

    > Hey, try http://www.postershop.com/Fonda-Jane-m.htm


    The one I used to have is not there, darn it. ;-)

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  5. #55
    Jay T. Blocksom Guest

    Re: Anti-spyware recommendation

    On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:26:29 +0100, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, Far Canal
    <me@privacy.net> wrote:
    >

    [snip]
    >
    > I don't open mail attachments, but I still obtain files from
    > dubious sources (my choice), I do need an AVP.

    [snip]

    I agree, and never stated otherwise.

    It's the "resident full-time auto-scan" daemon that is generally unnecessary
    and often problematic.

    > The cost of
    > running the AVP I use is too small to worry about.

    [snip]

    Then you're one of the lucky ones. But *lots* of folks have indeed had
    problems.

    > Many people share their computers. Not running an AVP under
    > those circumstances is a definite no-no.
    >


    Probably so, if they cannot trust the person(s) they're sharing that PC with.

    OTOH, if such a person were to repeatedly prove to me that they cannot be
    trusted to operate my computer(s) safely, then they would lose that privilege
    anyway, regardless of what software may or may not be running.

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    Jay T. Blocksom
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  6. #56
    Jay T. Blocksom Guest

    Re: Anti-spyware recommendation

    On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:29:10 +0100, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, Far Canal
    <me@privacy.net> wrote:
    >
    > Jay T. Blocksom wrote
    >

    [snip]
    > >
    > > Just because something is "free" does not mean it is without cost.
    > >
    > > At least most "resident" AV scanners are notorious for sucking up
    > > resources and destablizing the system.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > And those which cost are well known for causing the most
    > problems. Who in their right mind would install any Norton
    > product?
    >


    Two sorts:

    1. - Those who own an older Norton/Symantec title which they know to work well
    for them (i.e., at least most of the worst excesses and misbehaviors have been
    in more recent versions).

    2. - The uninformed.

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    Jay T. Blocksom
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  7. #57
    Frau Himmel Guest

    Re: Anti-spyware recommendation

    A.Melon wrote:
    > In article
    > <555c51l6k1rhs07fpf2h0o2dipfc8vqd4b@news.speakeasy .net>
    > Jay T. Blocksom <not.deliverable+usenet02@appropriate-tech.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:44:07 -0700 (PDT), in <alt.privacy.spyware>, A.Melon
    >><juicy@melontraffickers.com> wrote:
    >> >

    >> [snip]
    >> >
    >> > Don't tell me otherwise. I was a pimply teenager and it was the
    >> > first film I ever went to see.
    >> >

    >> [snip]
    >>
    >>Heh. We're obviously about the same age.

    >
    >
    > I reckon so, cos I listen to your advice, and use it, but I like
    > the functionality of Windows, and I'll stick with Win2K until
    > somebody comes up with a Linux variety that sets itself up just
    > as easily, and I'm not taking out IE until they stop supporting
    > Win2K, but I only use it for updates.
    >
    >
    >>I had a 3x4-foot poster of her (the folded-arms/legs "beach shot" if you
    >>recall it) on my bedroom wall at my family's shore home, during the same
    >>period -- which I lusted at regularly. <~>
    >>
    >>And she's *still* not bad, for a "senior citizen"...
    >>
    >><http://www.2004celebrityforecasts.com/celeb/Image102.gif>

    >
    >
    > Hey, try http://www.postershop.com/Fonda-Jane-m.htm
    >



    Hey hows yer Drunk Kunt girlfriend HoofinMOUTH

    Frau Himmel
    Still trying to outrun the death grip clutches of The Strangler

  8. #58
    A.Melon Guest

    Re: Anti-spyware recommendation

    In article <b6WdncFRtPJw78TfRVn-vA@giganews.com>
    Frau Himmel <frau_himmel@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    > Hey hows yer Drunk Kunt girlfriend HoofinMOUTH
    >
    > Frau Himmel
    > Still trying to outrun the death grip clutches of The Strangler


    LMAO That strangler sounds like a Hellhound, but never mind.

    Here's a song for you, courtesy of Britney Spears:

    I think I did it again
    I made you believe we're more than just friends
    Oh baby
    It might seem like a crush
    But it doesn't mean that I'm serious
    'Cause to lose all my senses
    That is just so typically me
    Oh baby, baby

    Oops!...I did it again
    I played with your heart, got lost in the game
    Oh baby, baby
    Oops!...You think I'm in love
    That I'm sent from above
    I'm not that innocent....

    And keep on guessing, but it ain't Hoof.

    Just somebody who truly believes in Honeymonsters.

    Now <PLONK>

    Firebird


  9. #59
    Jay T. Blocksom Guest

    Re: Anti-spyware recommendation

    On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:06:21 -0400, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, Bud
    <bud@large.org> wrote:
    >

    [snip]
    >
    > Oh, of course, oh great and mighty seer. LOL! It's obvious from your
    > postings that you haven't a clue but elevate your ego by disparaging
    > others. B'lieve there's a word for it...lemee see... oh yeah! TROLL!
    >
    > LMAO!
    >
    >


    Does shooting the messenger really make you feel better?

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    Jay T. Blocksom
    --------------------------------
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    usenet02[at]appropriate-tech.net

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