Anti-spyware recommendation

[AvianFlux]

ted s. wrote:
> Far Canal wrote:
> > AvianFlux wrote
> >
> >
> >> Legit email is easy to distinguish for anyone.
> >>
> >> One) Legitimate email comes from known/legitimate sources,
generally,
> >> without attachments, e.g., family, friends, business associates,
etc.
> >
> >
> > A stupid and basic error. Many viruses and trojans are spread to
> > people who receive an infected mail from someone they know.
> > often someone who frequently sends them attachments. Not having
> > an AVP running opens the door to it's fullest width.
> >
> > Not having an AVP running means mr & mrs average won't even know
> > if they have a virus or whether they are spreading them around.
> >
> >
> Neither will the original poster. It's hard to understand the
resistance to
> a free, effective AV, that runs just about invisibly. Avast, AVG,
and
> others all do the job.

"It's hard to understand the resistance to a free, effective AV, that
runs just about invisibly."

My reason is, I don't like to have unnecessary processes running on my
computer if I can manage without them. I believe the leaner a machine
is, the fewer problems one's likely to encounter, and the
smoother/better performing a computer will be.

Less is more.

[AvianFlux]

Far Canal wrote:
> AvianFlux wrote
>
>
> > "It's hard to understand the resistance to a free, effective AV,
that
> > runs just about invisibly."
> >
> > My reason is, I don't like to have unnecessary processes running on
my
> > computer if I can manage without them. I believe the leaner a
machine
> > is, the fewer problems one's likely to encounter, and the
> > smoother/better performing a computer will be.
> >
> > Less is more.
> >
> >
>
> Do me a favour and delete your modem driver.

Do me a favor, and **** off!

[Technobarbarian]

"AvianFlux" <neomoniker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112659905.862439.132830@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...

>pixi never identified him/herself as 'Mr & Mrs average'. Further more,
>the sooner people learn how to identify spoofed, scam, phished emails
>the better off they'll be.

> Everyone can't just continue functioning on the net, year in year out,
> relying entirely upon active virus/trogan scanning protection, and
> other measures, without learning a little bit about how to navigate
> through it with some degree of awareness.

LOL, the most ridiculous statement yet in a long string of ridiculous
statements. What most people want is an appliance that they in fact do not
have to learn about. A degree of awareness is what most Americans avoid like
the plague. You cannot follow newsgroups for very long without seeing how
unaware people can be. To choose one example among many: I'm still getting
Nigerian scam emails regularly. It is reported to be a major source of
income in some parts of Africa. People are actually going to Africa as a
result of these scams--and sometimes disappearing. One estimate is that
Americans spend $200 million a year on this scam alone. If you need another
example of how easily people are scammed look at the White House.
>
> The advise I dispense to pixi, or anyone else on this topic, is to pass
> on what I've verified to work for myself; I have any direct knowledge
> of what works for everyone else on the matter. That's all hearsay until
> I can confirm those findings, personally.
>
So now we get to the crux of the matter. You have no idea what might
work for other people, but you have no qualms about suggesting your
ridiculous methods.

>My reason is, I don't like to have unnecessary processes running on my
>computer if I can manage without them. I believe the leaner a machine
>is, the fewer problems one's likely to encounter, and the
>smoother/better performing a computer will be.

>Less is more.

I just looked. At the moment I have 61 processes running. Some of them
are just things that I haven't bothered to turn off yet. My security
programs are a negligble part of the 10% of cpu usage I'm averaging at the
moment. About the only time I have problems is when I start messing with
stuff. If I freeze the machine I restart it and I'm off again. I'm going to
worry about one more process more or less? Too funny. Your "safe hex" would
bore me to tears. One of the reasons I have a computer and good access is so
I can explore any odd corner I choose. Every now and then the anti-virus
program saves my ass. That and the other security programs are a small price
to pay for being able to go where I want on the web when I want. You're like
a person with a failed immune system. You have to keep the doors closed on
any site that *might* at some time have a germ. Hell, one of these days I'll
have an extra machine just so I can crash it into stuff.

TB

[pixi]

Thank you so much. I have deleted this many times but somehow it is always
back.

I'll stop all cookies and see what happens then. Thank you again..

Pixi


"AvianFlux" <neomoniker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112643196.910241.14000@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
>
> pixi wrote:
> > I thank everyone for replying to my post.
> >
> > Ad-aware says I have a cookie with the following info about it.
> >
> > Vendor-tracking
> > Type-IE cache
> > Category-data miner
> > object-cookie ( and then it gives my real name)
> > "shplink" <shplink@removeme.shplink.com> wrote in message
> > newsan.2005.04.04.13.16.27.552738@removeme.shplink.com ...
>
> Recommend deleting or quarantining it. Run TIFF, etc., cleaner app such
> as 'CleanUP!' or 'CCleaner', w/cookie cleaning option disabled (both
> are freeware). Set Internet Explorer's Internet Options > Privacy >
> Advanced (cookies) settings to block ALL cookies, including session
> cookies.
>
> Get 'Cookies Manager' (freeware) to save/store useful/wanted cookies,
> and automatically delete unwanted cookies.
>

[Ian JP Kenefick]

On 4 Apr 2005 18:17:52 -0700, "AvianFlux" <neomoniker@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>Far Canal wrote:
>> AvianFlux wrote
>>
>>
>> > "It's hard to understand the resistance to a free, effective AV,
>that
>> > runs just about invisibly."
>> >
>> > My reason is, I don't like to have unnecessary processes running on
>my
>> > computer if I can manage without them. I believe the leaner a
>machine
>> > is, the fewer problems one's likely to encounter, and the
>> > smoother/better performing a computer will be.
>> >
>> > Less is more.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Do me a favour and delete your modem driver.
>
>Do me a favor, and **** off!

Not a very well thought out come back there ) ha ha.
--

Regards,
Ian Kenefick
http://antivirus.ik-cs.com

[cmsix]

"Far Canal" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cbbe5e07b520d9898cef5@news.readfreenews. net...
> cmsix wrote
>
>
>> Avast does, it's the one I use and I can't speak about AVG. I know
>> that Avast is getting Nortonish in its desire to spawn multiple
>> "services" that must run all the time.
>>
>
> Take a look at AntiVir

Thanks, I will.

cmsix

>

[Jay T. Blocksom]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:01:25 -0400, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, "pixi"
<pixi@hardynet.com> wrote:
>
> Can someone recommend an anti-spyware program. I have been using adaware
> but there is one spy that saves itself and puts it back in and I can't get
> rid of it.
>

You're going to have to provide considerably more specific information if you
expect anyone to take even a semi-wild guess.

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[Bass-ackwards top-posting fixed. Full-quoted to clarify attributions.]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:38:43 -0400, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, "pixi"
<pixi@hardynet.com> wrote:
>
> "Far Canal" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1cbb760aec1965a398cee7@news.readfreenews. net...
> > Ray McCormick wrote
> >
> >
> > > [All mail scanned by Trend Micro I. S. (2005), updated daily].
> >
> >
> > Turn off the sig. It's not valid with text Usenet.
> >
> >
>
> I will if you will tell me what it is and how to turn it off.
>

"Far Canal"'s comment was not directed at you. It was directed at the fellow
who apparently does not know the difference between e-mail and netnews.

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[Jay T. Blocksom]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:11:47 -0400, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, "pixi"
<pixi@hardynet.com> wrote:
>
> I thank everyone for replying to my post.
>
> Ad-aware says I have a cookie with the following info about it.
>
> Vendor-tracking
> Type-IE cache
> Category-data miner
> object-cookie ( and then it gives my real name)
[snip]

That is very probably not a "major infection" in and of itself; but it *is* an
indicator of a larger problem.

You are running MSIE. That is a gilt-edged engraved invitation to all sorts
of nasties, most of them MUCH more serious than this one.

Go download a *decent* web browser (I generally recommend Firefox, K-Meleon,
and certain earlier versions of Opera) and proper e-mail and newsreader
client(s) (Calypso 3, early -- meaning pre-4.3, preferably pre-4.x -- versions
of Eudora Lite & Eudora Pro, and Forte Agent being excellent choices), install
them, then get rid of MSIE & Outleak Excuse entirely:

<http://www.litepc.com/ieradicator.html>
<http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html>
<http://www.litepc.com/xplite.html>

(Pick whichever of the above is appropriate to your system/needs.)

Once you have completed this change, the problem you cited above will also
have been fixed -- permanently.

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Jay T. Blocksom
--------------------------------
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[Jay T. Blocksom]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:59:48 -0700, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, "ted s."
<ted@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
> AvianFlux wrote:
> >
> > No resident, real time, active AV/AT scanner needs to be
> > installed/running on a the machine with a correctly configured
> > firewall and safe hex operation.
> >
> A lot of bad advice floats through this group but this one may win the
> trophy.
>

Actually, as bad as his advice to the OP was in general, he is absolutely
right on this specific point.

But the key is his reference to "safe hex operation", which obviates the
statement for the vast majority of users -- who wouldn't know what that is if
it came up and bit them on the a$$, much less reliably practice it.

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Jay T. Blocksom
--------------------------------
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