Can the Feds trace this?

[Sir Walter Besant]

On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:34:29 +0000, Thrasher Remailer wrote:

> In article <fbS3e.19626$k66.14070@trnddc03>, David H. Lipman wrote:
>>From: "Thrasher Remailer" <thrasher@reece.net.au>
>>
>>
>>| It was e-mailed by one or more remailers to a service that forwarded
>>it | to gradwell.
>>| Similar to the way I am sending this.
>>
>>I thougght as much based upon...
>>Comments: Complaints? Email: iamupset@hotpop.com
>>
>>But, I stated the obvious first.
>>
>>Proxys and remailer suck !
>>
>>In some News Groups use is barred.
>>
>>
>>
> I just have to ask...Why?
>
> is maintaining my privacy so wrong?
> Is it so wrong to want to be able to post without concern that something
> I may say now will come back to bite me on the ass five or ten years
> from now?
>
> Is it so wrong that I need to communicate in a public forum with the
> security of anonymity because I frequently have things to say and report
> that other people have been assaulted, jailed, and even murdered for
> saying?
>
> I will grant you there are people who mis-use remailers and that
> anonyimity. but I do not think that it is right for the rest of us to
> have to pay the penalty.

ISPs can't tell the difference between people who use remailers
responsibly and those who abuse them.

Your complaint should be directed to the fools who run remailers with the
idea that free speech should be unlimited. They are the ones who have
brought these restrictions about.



> I am anonymous for very good reasons, as are many others like me. why is
> of course your obvious question, but if I could answer you then I would
> not need to be anonymous any more. I suggest that you pray to god you
> never need to know why.
>
> There are some truely horrible people in this world, most of them are in
> charge of the rest of us.
>
> Odds are VERY good that you have voted for at least one of them, take a
> good look at politicians you have voted for and you might be able to
> guess who... just keep quiet about it unless you go anon.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Thrasher Remailer" <thrasher@reece.net.au>


|
| um, WHY should free speech NOT be unlimited?!?!?!?
|
| if it is not unlimited, even for the bad guys, then there is a leash on freedom of
| expression. you need TOTAL freedom of speech for everyone unless you someday want it to
| be YOU who is silenced wrongfully or even killed for saying something that some secret
| police government agency (like homeland security) does not like expressed.
|
| btw.. homeland security in usa is no different than nazi 'ss' was back in the 30's.. usa
| is on the same road as nazi germany was.
|
| and they are makeing the same mistakes.
|

With blatently skewed and false statements such as that I understand WHY you want
annonymity.

Call me when there is a Krystalnacht in NYC !

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Thrasher Remailer" <thrasher@reece.net.au>

..
|
| is that so? please demonstrate by finding me
|

You are replying to someone who may not have the power nor the court order to do so...

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Thrasher Remailer" <thrasher@reece.net.au>


|
| actually, I have absolute freedom of speech, and I use it frequently. and your govt
| spooks will NEVER trace it to me... freenet (http://freenetproject.org) gives me total
| anonyimty and 100% plausible deniability
|

Actually that is an assumption you should not make. If the Gov't. "truly" weanted to target
you then they caould easily trace it back to you Proxy service, email 2 news service or
other. It is a matter of how bad does a given gov't. entity desire to find someone.

The *only* anonymity it provides is to the avg. 'net citizen.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

[Harold]

Thrasher Remailer wrote:

>>>It was e-mailed by one or more remailers to a service that forwarded it to
>>>gradwell. Similar to the way I am sending this.

>>
>>Maybe. But it wouldn't prevent the NHCTU
>> http://www.nhtcu.org/
>> finding you if they really wanted to.
>
>
> is that so? please demonstrate by finding me
>

Thats absurd. I didn't say *I* could find you.
But NHCTU have the required authority so to do if they really wanted to.

--
Harold

[Anonymous]

In article <4252e8b4$0$94511$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>
Harold <nospam@home.pse> wrote:
>
> Thrasher Remailer wrote:
>
> >>>It was e-mailed by one or more remailers to a service that forwarded it to
> >>>gradwell. Similar to the way I am sending this.
>
> >>
> >>Maybe. But it wouldn't prevent the NHCTU
> >> http://www.nhtcu.org/
> >> finding you if they really wanted to.
> >
> >
> > is that so? please demonstrate by finding me
> >
>
> Thats absurd. I didn't say *I* could find you.
> But NHCTU have the required authority so to do if they really wanted to.


you want absurd, check with those who know mixmaster intimately,
a chain of 20 remailers is not possible to trace.

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