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  1. #21
    Tim Smith Guest

    Re: Microsoft Anti Spyware

    In article <5h4g5199kj4u55ed327i3982jgi352iaat@news.speakeasy .net>,
    Jay T. Blocksom <not.deliverable+usenet02@appropriate-tech.net> wrote:
    > It may be fair to characterize the TCPA FAQ as imperfect; but then, the same
    > can be said of virtually any FAQ.


    "Imperfect" is a massive understatement. Try "riddled with errors".

    > Further, the specific document you cite is nothing more than a single
    > dissenting (and highly suspect) opinion. It is also both obsolete and badly


    Since IBM has released GPL'ed Linux drivers for their TCPA hardware, we
    can look and see what TCPA does, and guess what--it agrees with what IBM
    says, and not with what that paranoid FAQ says.


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    --Tim Smith

  2. #22
    Jay T. Blocksom Guest

    Re: Microsoft Anti Spyware

    On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:14:43 GMT, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, Tim Smith
    <reply_in_group@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    >
    > In article <5h4g5199kj4u55ed327i3982jgi352iaat@news.speakeasy .net>,
    > Jay T. Blocksom <not.deliverable+usenet02@appropriate-tech.net> wrote:

    [snip]
    >
    > > Further, the specific document you cite is nothing more than a single
    > > dissenting (and highly suspect) opinion. It is also both obsolete and
    > > badly

    >
    > Since IBM has released GPL'ed Linux drivers for their TCPA hardware, we
    > can look and see what TCPA does, and guess what--it agrees with what IBM
    > says, and not with what that paranoid FAQ says.


    You're making the same fundamental error that "rebuttal" article did: You are
    presuming that the specific implementation by IBM is completely equivalent in
    all respects to all other possible implementations -- and that's simply not
    the case.

    Furthermore, you *cannot* "look and see what TCPA does" simply by examining
    the hardware, or any given manufacturer's drivers for same. Much of the more
    ominous functionality is (or will be) actually implemented in much
    higher-level software (such as the OS and applications programs, for example).

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  3. #23
    Tim Smith Guest

    Re: Microsoft Anti Spyware

    In article <s63o51hrnus8sqnul73e5e4abo8soevdvj@news.speakeasy .net>,
    Jay T. Blocksom <not.deliverable+usenet02@appropriate-tech.net> wrote:
    > You're making the same fundamental error that "rebuttal" article did: You are
    > presuming that the specific implementation by IBM is completely equivalent in
    > all respects to all other possible implementations -- and that's simply not
    > the case.
    >
    > Furthermore, you *cannot* "look and see what TCPA does" simply by examining
    > the hardware, or any given manufacturer's drivers for same. Much of the more
    > ominous functionality is (or will be) actually implemented in much
    > higher-level software (such as the OS and applications programs, for example).


    So, basically, the anti-TCPA position is that someone, someday, might be
    planning on at some point doing something bad?

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    --Tim Smith

  4. #24
    Bill Gough Guest

    Re: Microsoft Anti Spyware

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:17:50 GMT, Tim Smith
    <reply_in_group@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

    >In article <s63o51hrnus8sqnul73e5e4abo8soevdvj@news.speakeasy .net>,
    > Jay T. Blocksom <not.deliverable+usenet02@appropriate-tech.net> wrote:
    >> You're making the same fundamental error that "rebuttal" article did: You are
    >> presuming that the specific implementation by IBM is completely equivalent in
    >> all respects to all other possible implementations -- and that's simply not
    >> the case.
    >>
    >> Furthermore, you *cannot* "look and see what TCPA does" simply by examining
    >> the hardware, or any given manufacturer's drivers for same. Much of the more
    >> ominous functionality is (or will be) actually implemented in much
    >> higher-level software (such as the OS and applications programs, for example).

    >
    >So, basically, the anti-TCPA position is that someone, someday, might be
    >planning on at some point doing something bad?


    The anti-TCPA crowd I associate with is concerned with the economics
    of having a few super corporations dictate price in a controlled
    market.

  5. #25
    Jay T. Blocksom Guest

    Re: Microsoft Anti Spyware

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:17:50 GMT, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, Tim Smith
    <reply_in_group@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    >

    [snip]
    >
    > So, basically, the anti-TCPA position is that someone, someday, might be
    > planning on at some point doing something bad?


    As I told you more than two years ago, when you were also attempting to do the
    RIAA/MPAA's dirty work for them:

    Message-ID: <5hjr6vc4mqsdmhk0asddg4lfv73km22eo1@news.rcn.com >

    --> Further, the so-called "TCPA Misinformation Rebuttal" offered at that URL
    --> is itself disingenuous, at best. The author improperly attempts to
    --> defend both Palladium and the TCPA itself by describing functionality
    --> specific to the IBM ESS chip, which is a different (and far less
    --> problematic) animal. He also irrationally tries to counter others'
    --> criticisms of Palladium/TCPA (and the uses to which unscrupulous outfits
    --> like MS, RIAA and MPAA will surely put it to, if/when they are permitted
    --> to do so) by noting that some parts of the TCPA spec _can_ be used for
    --> "good things" -- which is presumably true, but irrelevant: The fact that
    --> you _can_ use an UZI to go duck hunting does not change the fact that it
    --> is clearly designed for another (far less innocent) purpose, or make it
    --> any less dangerous.

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    Jay T. Blocksom
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