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Thread: Boss has Spector 4.0 - Help!!

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    John Smith Guest

    Boss has Spector 4.0 - Help!!

    My boss bought Spector 4.0 (he thinks I don't know) and now he wants to
    "borrow" my PC. How can I tell if he installs it? Of course, I know he
    will, but how can I verify that it has been installed? Any help would be
    appreciated.



  2. #2
    Roy Guest

    Re: Boss has Spector 4.0 - Help!!

    In article <xdudnQrHv9ak6l6iU-KYjQ@giganews.com>, jsmith@whoknows.com
    says...

    > My boss bought Spector 4.0 (he thinks I don't know) and now he wants to
    > "borrow" my PC.


    Do you mean that you own it, or does he, and you merely use it?

    Cheers,

    Roy

  3. #3
    John Smith Guest

    Re: Boss has Spector 4.0 - Help!!

    Yes, Roy. I get it. But when a friend (or so I thought) hires you, then
    puts spyware on your(OK, HIS) PC without any notice, it's a bit troubling.

    However, you know we all use company phones and PCs for personal business
    (banking, email) on occassion. I would have at least appreciated some
    notification that our usage would be monitored. I used to think my boss was
    actually a friend of mine, but I guess I now have to realize that he is
    going to treat me with distrust. Though I certainly have the technical
    ability to spy on him via his PC, I have the integrity to never do it. I
    just feel very violated right now.

    I only wish I could find out where Spector stores its data files. Maybe
    they've already been sent to him. I guess there's not much I can do.


    "Roy" <z.5.RoyDent@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1a2d8bc9ee3a22e09896f3@usenet.free-online.net...
    > In article <xdudnQrHv9ak6l6iU-KYjQ@giganews.com>, jsmith@whoknows.com
    > says...
    >
    > > My boss bought Spector 4.0 (he thinks I don't know) and now he wants to
    > > "borrow" my PC.

    >
    > Do you mean that you own it, or does he, and you merely use it?
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Roy




  4. #4
    Fred Guest

    Re: Boss has Spector 4.0 - Help!!



    John Smith wrote:
    > My boss bought Spector 4.0 (he thinks I don't know) and now he wants
    > to "borrow" my PC. How can I tell if he installs it? Of course, I
    > know he will, but how can I verify that it has been installed? Any
    > help would be appreciated.


    http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/S/Spector.asp



  5. #5
    Roy Guest

    Re: Boss has Spector 4.0 - Help!!

    In article <NIWdnTDrGvIcWV6iU-KYjQ@giganews.com>, jsmith@whoknows.com
    says...

    > I would have at least appreciated some
    > notification that our usage would be monitored. I used to think my boss was
    > actually a friend of mine, but I guess I now have to realize that he is
    > going to treat me with distrust.
    >


    A fair point, but I expect that you've already worked out the only
    correct resolution of your situation.

    Cheers,

    Roy

  6. #6
    Lance Delacroix Guest

    Re: Boss has Spector 4.0 - Help!!

    On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:07:15 -0500, "John Smith" <jsmith@whoknows.com>
    prounounced a fatwah thus:

    >Yes, Roy. I get it. But when a friend (or so I thought) hires you, then
    >puts spyware on your(OK, HIS) PC without any notice, it's a bit troubling.


    Troubling? Hmmmm. Maybe you should be posting in a psychological
    self-help group.

    >
    >However, you know we all use company phones and PCs for personal business
    >(banking, email) on occassion.


    No, that's not true. Anyway, you can't justify your errant behavior
    by saying that "we all" do it. That's just not the right way.

    > I would have at least appreciated some
    >notification that our usage would be monitored. I used to think my boss was
    >actually a friend of mine, but I guess I now have to realize that he is
    >going to treat me with distrust.


    Yes, I can see you have some issues with this guy. Ever wonder if
    he's one of those bosses who visits his employees' wives while his
    drones are busy at their drudgery?

    > Though I certainly have the technical
    >ability to spy on him via his PC, I have the integrity to never do it. I
    >just feel very violated right now.


    Violated. What do you mean by that, exactly? John, tell us how you
    REALLY feel.

    >I only wish I could find out where Spector stores its data files. Maybe
    >they've already been sent to him.


    Integrity, John. Integrity. You don't really want to steal or
    destroy your boss' files, do you?

    >I guess there's not much I can do.


    Ah, you are beginning to see that this "violation" is just in the
    course of things. That's a good first step. Since you don't sound
    like you're going to punch the guy in the head and walk out the door
    as a real man would, you are probably wise to start accepting the fact
    that he's got power over you and will use it as he pleases.

    Maybe he'll install cameras in the bathrooms next.

  7. #7
    As Guest

    Re: Boss has Spector 4.0 - Help!!

    dn. 25 11 (wtorek), John Smith napisal(a)

    > My boss bought Spector 4.0 (he thinks I don't know) and now he wants to
    > "borrow" my PC. How can I tell if he installs it? Of course, I know he
    > will, but how can I verify that it has been installed? Any help would be
    > appreciated.


    Hmm... Maybe you should see this:
    From: John Fitzsimons <xxx@xxx>
    Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware
    Subject: Re: Keylogger paranoia- need advise!
    Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:47:59
    > (...)

    A keylogger detector could miss a keylogger IMO. There is however
    another option. Keep in mind that a keylogger may/may not be working
    all the time (I.E. when you are actually using the computer) in order
    to avoid people noticing disk activity when they are doing nothing.

    Try this :

    (1) Start your computer.

    (2) Make sure that all your "system" and "hidden" files can be seen.

    (3) Disconnect from the net and make sure you have as close to no
    programs/utilities running as possible.

    (4) Do nothing for 1 1/2 hours.

    (5) For the next 20 minutes write/save notepad "text" files. Then
    stop.

    (6) Show only files altered/created during the last 1 hour.

    Every result should be in the notepad directory and/or where you saved
    your notepad file(s). Anything else may be text, or screen captures,
    from a keylogger.

    Regards, John.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    What do you think about it guys?

  8. #8
    As Guest

    Re: Boss has Spector 4.0 - Help!!

    dn. 25 11 (wtorek), John Smith napisal(a)

    > (...)

    One more thing: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/index.php Try to ask on this
    forum.

    --
    aska http://31337.pl Pozdr.

  9. #9
    Nate Guest

    Re: Boss has Spector 4.0 - Help!!

    I recommend daily internet visits to main stream religious sites or sites
    about how to be a more productive employee. When you know someone is
    looking you have the advantage.

    Or..Look at a couple of Gay sites and hope to get fired so you can sue.

    NAte


    "John Smith" <jsmith@whoknows.com> wrote in message
    news:NIWdnTDrGvIcWV6iU-KYjQ@giganews.com...
    > Yes, Roy. I get it. But when a friend (or so I thought) hires you, then
    > puts spyware on your(OK, HIS) PC without any notice, it's a bit troubling.
    >
    > However, you know we all use company phones and PCs for personal business
    > (banking, email) on occassion. I would have at least appreciated some
    > notification that our usage would be monitored. I used to think my boss

    was
    > actually a friend of mine, but I guess I now have to realize that he is
    > going to treat me with distrust. Though I certainly have the technical
    > ability to spy on him via his PC, I have the integrity to never do it. I
    > just feel very violated right now.
    >
    > I only wish I could find out where Spector stores its data files. Maybe
    > they've already been sent to him. I guess there's not much I can do.
    >
    >
    > "Roy" <z.5.RoyDent@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.1a2d8bc9ee3a22e09896f3@usenet.free-online.net...
    > > In article <xdudnQrHv9ak6l6iU-KYjQ@giganews.com>, jsmith@whoknows.com
    > > says...
    > >
    > > > My boss bought Spector 4.0 (he thinks I don't know) and now he wants

    to
    > > > "borrow" my PC.

    > >
    > > Do you mean that you own it, or does he, and you merely use it?
    > >
    > > Cheers,
    > >
    > > Roy

    >
    >




  10. #10
    Whiskers Guest

    Re: Boss has Spector 4.0 - Help!!

    In alt.privacy.spyware on Wednesday 26 Nov 2003 8:38 pm, Nate
    <managers@microsoft.com> wrote:

    > I recommend daily internet visits to main stream religious sites or sites
    > about how to be a more productive employee. When you know someone is
    > looking you have the advantage.
    >
    > Or..Look at a couple of Gay sites and hope to get fired so you can sue.
    >
    > NAte


    Or suggest to your boss that he might like to think about a 'firewall' for
    the office computer network. If you can't connect to anything but the
    places or people required for business, then he won't have anything to log
    or complain about and your privacy will be secure )

    --
    -- ^^^^^^^^^^ Interested in Citroens?
    -- Whiskers <http://www.aacit.net>
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