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  1. #1
    data64 Guest

    FAQ suggestion

    It seems to me the most often asked question in this group is of the form
    "Help my PC has been infected with XYZ, how do I fix it".

    The usual reply to this is tell the op to run AdAware and Spybot Search &
    Destroy. Sometimes the op will go away, but a number of times the op will
    come back saying this did work. The reply to this is to use HijackThis and
    get advice from the SWI forums.

    It would be nice if our FAQ captured this. item# 9
    (http://shplink.com/misc/FAQ.htm#nine) asks the right question but the
    answer is not particularly helpful. It certainly does not reflect the
    advice been given out on a daily basis.

    my 0.02 CAD
    data64

  2. #2
    shplink Guest

    Re: FAQ suggestion

    On 31 Oct 2003 12:58:12 GMT, data64 <me@privacy.net> wrote:

    >It seems to me the most often asked question in this group is of the form
    >"Help my PC has been infected with XYZ, how do I fix it".
    >
    >The usual reply to this is tell the op to run AdAware and Spybot Search &
    >Destroy. Sometimes the op will go away, but a number of times the op will
    >come back saying this did work. The reply to this is to use HijackThis and
    >get advice from the SWI forums.
    >
    >It would be nice if our FAQ captured this. item# 9
    >(http://shplink.com/misc/FAQ.htm#nine) asks the right question but the
    >answer is not particularly helpful. It certainly does not reflect the
    >advice been given out on a daily basis.
    >
    >my 0.02 CAD
    >data64


    Hi data64, sounds like a good suggestion to me, but playing devil's
    advocate:

    Q9 points at the comprehensive links appendix, one or more of which
    will take care of the problem; but granted some people may not have
    the patience to read through all and decide what will work best.
    Also granted, SSD/AA and Hijack This! will not *necessarily* take care
    of an infection.
    Additionally, I like the idea that we invite a "victim" to post here
    for help, so that our experts can help them and invite further
    discussion, depending on their individual case.

    But it would be nice to have the "easy fix" available first! I could
    include a sentence something to the effect of "try this first" ...
    Let's see, something like-Q9 revisited:

    9. How can I identify, prevent and eliminate spyware in my computer?
    ---
    There is not one fail-safe, guaranteed method of keeping a system
    spyware-free. There are too many variables, such as what programs you
    commonly use, what your browser of choice is, how you connect to the
    internet, etc. In most cases a combination of tools will help reduce
    your system's susceptibility to spyware.
    Spyware applications can infect a computer in many ways. The potential
    for infection while browsing is only one of them. Sometimes spyware is
    clandestinely bundled with freeware or shareware programs which are
    downloaded from the Internet, included in regular programs that you
    buy at a retail store, might come aboard during the use of
    file-sharing applications, and so on.
    Uninstalling a program which carries offending lateral spyware is
    usually only part of the solution. In order to clean up spyware
    remnants from the original installation, you will probably need some
    software, or at least some expert advice. There are various programs,
    a lot of them free, which will help you do that.
    The best way to check a computer for infections is to use one or more
    of many "spyware sniffer" applications, and to become familiar with
    basic firewall terminology. Managing block lists and Hosts files will
    protect a computer against infection while browsing the Internet. Keep
    in mind that not all spyware eliminator programs are entirely
    legitimate. Asking for feedback in this NG will help you choose
    programs which are safe.

    NEW
    If you are are a Windows user, you may want to try downloading and
    running Ad-Aware and Spybot S&D before trying anything else. Hijack
    This! can also help eliminate a great number of infections. See
    Appendix 1 for links to these applications.
    /NEW

    See Appendix 1 for a list of some applications that are frequently
    discussed and used in this NG. (Posting a question here should result
    in considerable suggestions and comparisons by regulars.) We recommend
    that you do *not* use an adware uninstaller from an adware vendor -
    since it could and probably would compound your problem(s)."

    Overall, remember that "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of
    cure."
    ================
    Feedback from anyone and everyone appreciated.... It's been a while
    since we've done an update!

    the alt.privacy.spyware FAQ:
    http://shplink.com/misc/FAQ.htm

  3. #3
    Lance Delacroix Guest

    Re: FAQ suggestion

    On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:10:38 GMT, shplinq
    <shplinq@removeme.shplinq.com> prounounced a fatwah thus:

    >Additionally, I like the idea that we invite a "victim" to post here
    >for help, so that our experts can flame them and invite them
    >to read the FAQ.


    Oh, oh, oh. :-)

  4. #4
    shplink Guest

    Re: FAQ suggestion

    On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:37:51 +0200, Lance Delacroix
    <lance_delacroix@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    >On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:10:38 GMT, shplinq
    ><shplinq@removeme.shplinq.com> prounounced a fatwah thus:
    >
    >>Additionally, I like the idea that we invite a "victim" to post here
    >>for help, so that our experts can flame them and invite them
    >>to read the FAQ.

    >
    >Oh, oh, oh. :-)


    You arright man? C'mon now, I know how much you appreciate the endless
    Dialectic possibilities spread before us by Usenet!

    the alt.privacy.spyware FAQ:
    http://shplink.com/misc/FAQ.htm

  5. #5
    Lance Delacroix Guest

    Re: FAQ suggestion

    On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:26:52 GMT, shplink
    <shplink@removeme.shplink.com> prounounced a fatwah thus:

    >On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:37:51 +0200, Lance Delacroix
    ><lance_delacroix@fastmail.fm> wrote:
    >
    >>On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:10:38 GMT, shplinq
    >><shplinq@removeme.shplinq.com> prounounced a fatwah thus:
    >>
    >>>Additionally, I like the idea that we invite a "victim" to post here
    >>>for help, so that our experts can flame them and invite them
    >>>to read the FAQ.

    >>
    >>Oh, oh, oh. :-)

    >
    >You arright man? C'mon now, I know how much you appreciate the endless
    >Dialectic possibilities spread before us by Usenet!


    Heh heh. I'm a bad, bad, boy.... :-))


    >the alt.privacy.spyware FAQ:
    >http://shplink.com/misc/FAQ.htm



  6. #6
    shplink Guest

    Re: FAQ suggestion

    On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:10:38 GMT, shplink
    <shplink@removeme.shplink.com> wrote:

    >On 31 Oct 2003 12:58:12 GMT, data64 <me@privacy.net> wrote:


    SNIP

    >>It would be nice if our FAQ captured this. item# 9
    >>(http://shplink.com/misc/FAQ.htm#nine) asks the right question but the
    >>answer is not particularly helpful. It certainly does not reflect the
    >>advice been given out on a daily basis.


    SNIP
    >
    >NEW
    >If you are are a Windows user, you may want to try downloading and
    >running Ad-Aware and Spybot S&D before trying anything else. Hijack
    >This! can also help eliminate a great number of infections. See
    >Appendix 1 for links to these applications.
    >/NEW


    SNP

    Any objections to adding the paragraph above? Any better ways of
    putting things into words?

    the alt.privacy.spyware FAQ:
    http://shplink.com/misc/FAQ.htm

  7. #7
    data64 Guest

    Re: FAQ suggestion

    shplink <shplink@removeme.shplink.com> wrote in
    news:0f047912e817e2866d27155f3eae73af@news.teranew s.com:

    >
    > Any objections to adding the paragraph above? Any better ways of
    > putting things into words?
    >


    This is probably enough.

    data64

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