Hijackers and invisible html code?

[General Mailbox]

Greetings.
I use Spybot S&D, Adaware, ZoneAlarm, AdSubtract and of course an A/V pgm.
I use RegCleaner 4.3 by Jouni Vuorio to control the windows startup list. I
regularly get updated with MS and these others mentioned here.
My communication softwares are OE v6, IE v6, MSN and AOL and Yahoo IM's
only.
I have done some reading here, and received some appreciated replies, about
HOSTS file. While I'm confused about why HOSTS needs to be capitalized while
the original name by windows was in lower case, I can just take the groups
word for that. One more thing on this though; Is it to replace or
compliment other ad blockers? If compliment, is there a preferred order of
execution and can the order be adjusted?

With the talk about hijackers and invisible html code that can make anything
happen, this has me concerned that I may not be protected enough. I
consider myself fortunate as in the 3 yrs of web surfing, I've had only
about 4 cases of infections. I've practiced what you've preached. I even
read any unknown senders e-mail via 'message source' to see if it's anything
I trust or want to read in html code. Now, if there's anything new I need
to know, I'd like to know before getting hit. Besides adding CWShredder,
HijackThis and doing this HOSTS thing to my above software list, is there
any other programs or procedures someone would care to inform me about that
would decrease the stress of dealing with potential problems?

Thanks to one and all!
Kevin

[Robin T Cox]

"General Mailbox" <keepspam@away.com> wrote in
news:qmIcb.3182$RW4.240@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net:

> Besides adding CWShredder,
> HijackThis and doing this HOSTS thing to my above software list, is
> there any other programs or procedures someone would care to inform me
> about that would decrease the stress of dealing with potential
> problems?
>

SpywareBlaster ( I bet you're already using this, aren't you?):
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

and also ID-Blaster:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/idblaster.html

You should also check out Sponge's site:
http://www.geocities.com/yosponge/

[Dick Hazeleger]

Malev wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:52:55 GMT, Robin T Cox
> <robin2803@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"General Mailbox" <keepspam@away.com> wrote in
> >news:qmIcb.3182$RW4.240@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net:
> >
> >> Besides adding CWShredder,
> >> HijackThis and doing this HOSTS thing to my above software
> list, is >> there any other programs or procedures someone would
> care to inform me >> about that would decrease the stress of
> dealing with potential >> problems?
> >>
> >
>
> >and also ID-Blaster:
> >http://www.wilderssecurity.com/idblaster.html
> >
>
> It's a piece of ****.
> It wipes off far too many things. It removes AVG's serial number,
> and AVG will not operate without it.

Well now... that is funny I use AVG AND IDBlaster, and my AVG works
perfectly... perhaps there is something else going on? I wouldn't
call a good program "a piece of ****" just because something
happened to another program!

Dick

[Robin T Cox]

Malev <malev@selamer.com> wrote in
news:haj9nvcgtand5fk10075rsghhcu7a7e9un@4ax.com:

>>and also ID-Blaster:
>>http://www.wilderssecurity.com/idblaster.html
>>
>
> It's a piece of ****.
> It wipes off far too many things. It removes AVG's serial number, and
> AVG will not operate without it.
>

I'm happily running AVG (free version) with ID-Blaster, and have been doing
so for months. Are you sure this is the cause of your problem?

[Dick Hazeleger]

Malev wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:57:37 -0000, "Dick Hazeleger"
> <Dick@post_it_in_the_newsgroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's a piece of ****.
> >> It wipes off far too many things. It removes AVG's serial
> number, >> and AVG will not operate without it.
> >
> >Well now... that is funny I use AVG AND IDBlaster, and my AVG
> works >perfectly... perhaps there is something else going on? I
> wouldn't >call a good program "a piece of ****" just because
> something >happened to another program!
>
> I used AVG 7.0.176 and ID Blaster.
> Everytime the PC was restarted, AVG displayed a security message
> [serial number changed etc ] and asked for AVG 7 serial number
> to be re-entered. Uninstalled ID Blaster. No more problem.

Did you contact the author of IDBlaster (Javacool,
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com) about this? I think JC might want
to know this, instead of seeing his program being called "****"...
I know that you can contact JC throught the forums at
wilderssecurity... IMO it's worth the effort!

Dick

[Robin T Cox]

Malev <malev@selamer.com> wrote in
news:mjpanvkfkk2a563cunn6h2me1lg9m1as4o@4ax.com:

> See my previous post
> I run the non-free AVG 7.0.176
>

Noted, but the free version also requires a serial number to be entered. I
don't see from your evidence so far what the possible cause of your problem
might have been. The fact that after you uninstalled ID-Blaster the problem
disappeared does not IMHO show ID-Blaster to have been the cause
necessarily. That's a logical fallacy: post hoc ergo propter hoc.

[Little Johnny]

"Malev" <malev@selamer.com> wrote in message
news:lrvanvk4t68qgcmpe910ukcb2drcdc8vr5@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:03:31 GMT, Robin T Cox <robin2803@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> >Malev <malev@selamer.com> wrote in
> >news:mjpanvkfkk2a563cunn6h2me1lg9m1as4o@4ax.com :
> >
> >> See my previous post
> >> I run the non-free AVG 7.0.176
> >>
> >
> >Noted, but the free version also requires a serial number to be entered.
I
> >don't see from your evidence so far what the possible cause of your
problem
> >might have been. The fact that after you uninstalled ID-Blaster the
problem
> >disappeared does not IMHO show ID-Blaster to have been the cause
> >necessarily. That's a logical fallacy: post hoc ergo propter hoc.
> >
>
> OK.
> After reading your post, I re-installed IDBlaster.
> Changed IDs
> Rebooted PC.
> Screen from AVG 7 asking for serial number to be re-entered.
> Re-entered serial number.
> Changed IDs.
> Rebooted PC
> Back to screen from AVG etc etc
> Re-entered serial number in order to proceed.
> Uninstalled ID Blaster
> Rebooted PC
> No problem
> Ergo whatever you want.

I see by your post that you did not do a double blind, reverse tracking test
with a triple placebo factor.
I'm sure all the true geeks will insist that you do this before you say this
" piece of.....
I mean this program "is a piece of ****". ;-)

[Robin T Cox]

"Little Johnny" <missb93@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:vnbbn2c9lg5e54@corp.supernews.com:

>> OK.
>> After reading your post, I re-installed IDBlaster.
>> Changed IDs
>> Rebooted PC.
>> Screen from AVG 7 asking for serial number to be re-entered.
>> Re-entered serial number.
>> Changed IDs.
>> Rebooted PC
>> Back to screen from AVG etc etc
>> Re-entered serial number in order to proceed.
>> Uninstalled ID Blaster
>> Rebooted PC
>> No problem
>> Ergo whatever you want.
>
> I see by your post that you did not do a double blind, reverse
> tracking test with a triple placebo factor.
> I'm sure all the true geeks will insist that you do this before you
> say this " piece of.....
> I mean this program "is a piece of ****". ;-)
>

Fascinating ... a highly emotional reaction, but no doubt very human ;-)