On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:34:15 GMT, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, sethra
<azoblue@myrealboxDOT.com> wrote:
>
> Jay T. Blocksom <usenet01+SPAMBLOCK@appropriate-tech.net> wrote in
> news:ckhbnv0c5u922ts2et4ngvth84do6g6o6h@news.rcn.c om:
>
> > On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:00:39 GMT, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, sethra
> ><azoblue@myrealboxDOT.com> wrote:
> > >
> > [snip]
> > >
> > > Eudora is spyware free.
> > [snip]
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> ><http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...pgnhiisvb2mtof
> >%40news.rcn.com>
> >
>
> Thanks for reiterating exactly what I stated in my post,
[snip]

I did no such thing.

> ... disregarding your
> misunderstanding of the terms "spyware," "adware," and "paid mode."
>
[snip]

I also do NOT "misunderstand" those terms (tho' apparently, you do -- or,
you're just very deeply in denial).

What part of "the Registration Code is 'phoned home" did you not grasp?

What part of "the 'phone home' mechanism ... remains active in Paid and ...
Light ... modes; so therfore, it by definition has NOTHING to do
with 'ad serving' or 'ad-response tracking'" did you not grasp?

What part of the fact that these behaviors have been confirmed by Qualcomm
personnel did you not grasp?

> If you had actually read my post, you would see that I called Eudora
> "adware" unless run in paid mode.
[snip]

I did read your post. Then as now, your notation that Eudora is (as of
v4.3.0 only, which you failed to mention) "adware", while a true statement,
is irrelevant.

> *Anyone* running *any* form of adware
> does at their own risk.
>
[snip]

Wrong.

"Adware", per se, is not necessarily evil. Spyware is. The fact that much
"adware" is *also* "spyware" does not change that.

> Furthermore, I also stated that unless you tell it not to, Eudora will
> check for updates even if run in paid mode, and gave instructions on how
> to turn off automatic checking.
>
[snip]

Also not relevant.

> Running in paid mode, with automatic update checking turned off, Eudora
> makes ZERO non-user initiated internet connections.
>

Try again. There is *NO* legitimate reason to "'phone home" the GUID in
order to check for an update -- yet John Purlia (who wrote the fscking
code!) already admitted that it does exactly that, even in "Paid" mode.

> This is easily verified with a firewall.
>
> Install firewall. Install Eudora. Register Eudora. Turn off automatic
> update checking. Restrict the Eudora firewall rules to ports 25 and 110
> to the IP of your mailserver
[snip]

Ahhh... So you're obviously referring to a so-called "software firewall",
running on the same WinBox as Eudora. Clue #1: That's not a firewall. Clue
#2: Given the actual situation, you you would be a fool to trust whatever it
may report.

--

Jay T. Blocksom
--------------------------------
Appropriate Technology, Inc.
usenet01[at]appropriate-tech.net


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759.

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