is this correct about cookies

[lucky]

X-No-Archive:Yes

I've been doing some reading and wanted to make sure I'm right.

If I register at xyz.com with a hotmail address, and enable cookies,
it's my understanding that the hotmail address as well as the user name
and password at xyz.com will be on the cookie. That is ok with me. But
will xyz.com be able to find out my ISP and that email address?

Thanks!

[null@zilch.com]

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 14:03:59 GMT, lucky <luckydriver@prodigy.net>
wrote:

>X-No-Archive:Yes
>
>I've been doing some reading and wanted to make sure I'm right.
>
>If I register at xyz.com with a hotmail address, and enable cookies,
>it's my understanding that the hotmail address as well as the user name
>and password at xyz.com will be on the cookie. That is ok with me. But
>will xyz.com be able to find out my ISP and that email address?

Only if you hand it to them on a silver platter If you don't take
draconian measures to hide your IP address while surfing, your ISP can
be deduced. But your email addy is safe unless you specifically
divulge it.


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

[lucky]

X-No-Archive:Yes

OK, well I guess w/o a court order they can't associate the IP with me specifically right? Thanks for the info, I didn't know what the contents of the cookie were and if they included my main ISP email. I just don't want them able to find me. It would be bad for me at work.



null@zilch.com wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 14:03:59 GMT, lucky <luckydriver@prodigy.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>X-No-Archive:Yes
>>
>>I've been doing some reading and wanted to make sure I'm right.
>>
>>If I register at xyz.com with a hotmail address, and enable cookies,
>>it's my understanding that the hotmail address as well as the user name
>>and password at xyz.com will be on the cookie. That is ok with me. But
>>will xyz.com be able to find out my ISP and that email address?
>>
>>
>
>Only if you hand it to them on a silver platter If you don't take
>draconian measures to hide your IP address while surfing, your ISP can
>be deduced. But your email addy is safe unless you specifically
>divulge it.
>
>
>Art
>http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg
>
>

[tony@well.com]

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 01:16:34 GMT, lucky <luckydriver@prodigy.net>
wrote:

>I just don't want them able to find me. It would be bad for me at work

Do you really want us all to know that you're cheating your employer?

T.
========================
Tony Roder, speaking his mind....

[lucky]

X-No-Archive:Yes

Um NO. How is posting on a public board about factual things on my own
time and computer cheating my employer? Perhaps you need to get all the
facts before making such crazy unsubstantiated statements.

I'm NOT stupid and know if I did anything on the work network, they can
see everything.
What a waste of typing, but oh well, I just had to reply because you
sound just like those on the board I'm dealing with.

tony@well.com wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 01:16:34 GMT, lucky <luckydriver@prodigy.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>I just don't want them able to find me. It would be bad for me at work
>>
>>
>
>Do you really want us all to know that you're cheating your employer?
>
>T.
>========================
>Tony Roder, speaking his mind....
>
>

[John Doe]

"lucky" <luckydriver@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:3F647212.3050807@prodigy.net...
> X-No-Archive:Yes
>
> Um NO. How is posting on a public board about factual things on my own
> time and computer cheating my employer? Perhaps you need to get all the
> facts before making such crazy unsubstantiated statements.
>
> I'm NOT stupid and know if I did anything on the work network, they can
> see everything.
> What a waste of typing, but oh well, I just had to reply because you
> sound just like those on the board I'm dealing with.
>
abuse@prodigy.net

[Jay T. Blocksom]

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 01:16:34 GMT, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, lucky
<luckydriver@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> X-No-Archive:Yes
>
[snip]

Please knock this crap off. It does nothing to protect your privacy, and it
makes following the threads a PITA for at least some folks, some of the
time.

> OK, well I guess w/o a court order they can't associate the IP with me
> specifically right?
[snip]

What on Earth gave you *that* idea?

> Thanks for the info, I didn't know what the contents of the cookie were
> and if they included my main ISP email.
[snip]

If whatever web browser you use to "register at xyz.com" is aware of that
e-mail address (and maybe even if it isn't), then it is a trivial matter for
it to be included in the cookie -- especially if you surf with Java,
JavaScript, or (worst of all) ActiveX enabled.

> I just don't want them able to find me. It would be bad for me at work.
[snip]

There is NO SUCH THING as true anonymity on the 'net, PERIOD. There are
many things you can do to *approach* a state of anonymity; but it is obvious
that you aren't doing nearly any of them. So until and unless you *fully*
grasp that concept, I would suggest that you don't do anything you wouldn't
want to see reported on the front page of the New York Times.

--

Jay T. Blocksom
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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[Jay T. Blocksom]

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 15:58:09 GMT, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, null@zilch.com
wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> Only if you hand it to them on a silver platter If you don't take
> draconian measures to hide your IP address while surfing, your ISP can
> be deduced. But your email addy is safe unless you specifically
> divulge it.
>
[snip]

s/safe/relatively safe/

*Nothing* is completely "safe".

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Jay T. Blocksom
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