On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 10:22:26 -0400, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, "mto"
<nobody@dontsendmeanyspam.thanks> wrote:
>
> "Jack" <see.sig@below.my.post> wrote in message
> news:e1idlvglo79r53pl44nu462970ibpdte4e@4ax.com...
[snip]
> >
> > Jay is correct. Xerox's GUI (Graphical User Interface) concept dates
> > to before before Jobs and Wozniak ever ventured into the garage they
> > designed and built the original Apple. IIRC, Xerox's GUI never made it
> > to market, while Apple designed theirs into the MacIntosh. Shortly
> > afterward, MS introduced Windows. (Hell, even Commodore-64 had a GUI
> > (GEOS) by the mid-late '80s).
> >
>
> More than "shortly" afterward - not until Bill saw the great danger to
> his miserably chunky DOS did he copy the MAC interface.
[snip]

Bzzzzt. Wrong, yet AGAIN.

Development of Windows (then called "Interface Manager") began more than two
years *before* the Mac was introduced. It didn't actually hit store shelves
until '85 (the Mac was introduced in '84), due mostly to the fact that the
whole "desktop metaphor" was a hotbed of rapidly changing developments
(read: "moving targets") back then, so the project kept getting pushed back
and reworked.

> Someone before Ford
> built a car - but do you remember his name?
[snip]

Several names, in fact: Gottlieb Daimler and Karl Benz being chief among
them, not least because they actually *marketed* the autombile before Ford
did -- and you can't say "they did nothing with it" <http://www.mbusa.com/>.

> Xerox might have invented the
> concept - but they did nothing with it. Last Xerox machine I saw wouldn't
> fit on my desktop by a longshot
>

Sure looks fit for a desktop, to me:

<http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/xerox-8010/star.jpg>

(I think we should start a pool... "When will 'mto' get something,
ANYTHING, right?" I'm in for a buck that says, "the 12th of Never.")

--

Jay T. Blocksom
--------------------------------
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usenet01[at]appropriate-tech.net


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759.

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