"Jack" <see.sig@below.my.post> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 07:07:01 -0400, "mto"
> <nobody@dontsendmeanyspam.thanks> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jay T. Blocksom" <usenet01+SPAMBLOCK@appropriate-tech.net> wrote in
message
> >news:g83alvs6omnt7ib7teraj6guti3oh63gmk@news.rcn. com...
> >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:13:48 -0400, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, "mto"
> >> <nobody@dontsendmeanyspam.thanks> wrote:
> >> >
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> > The learning curve for a Mac is close to
> >> > zilch - nearly everything you see now as Windows started life as Mac
> >back
> >> > when MS products came in green on black.
> >> >
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> Unless you are referring exclusively to a relative handful of popular
> >> applications like Eudora, that simply isn't true. And besides, by now,
> >the
> >> parentage has been so obfuscated as to be irrelevant.
> >>
> >> > Windows is spendy, getting spendier
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> True.
> >>
> >> > ...and never was anything
> >> > more than a bad - and very slow - copy of the Mac OS.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Not true.
> >>
> >> The closest you can get to that is that they are *both* conceptual
> >rip-offs
> >> of the Xerox "Star".
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >No idiot - I am referring to the f***ing interface - MAC. The idea of a
> >mouse, clickable menus, etc. etc. etc. That is MAC. And FAR more than
> >Eudora started out on MAC - Word was originall a Mac program,
WordPerfect,
> >Adobe Photoshop & Illustrator, and much, much much more.
>
> Jay is correct. Xerox's GUI (Graphical User Interface) concept dates
> to before before Jobs and Wozniak ever ventured into the garage they
> designed and built the original Apple. IIRC, Xerox's GUI never made it
> to market, while Apple designed theirs into the MacIntosh. Shortly
> afterward, MS introduced Windows. (Hell, even Commodore-64 had a GUI
> (GEOS) by the mid-late '80s).
>

More than "shortly" afterward - not until Bill saw the great danger to his
miserably chunky DOS did he copy the MAC interface. Someone before Ford
built a car - but do you remember his name? Xerox might have invented the
concept - but they did nothing with it. Last Xerox machine I saw wouldn't
fit on my desktop by a longshot