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    tony@well.com Guest

    Apple and malware

    As I think I understand it, Apple computers are not vulnerable to the
    spy/malware discussed here, because they do not use a Windows
    operating system. Is this legend or is it fact?

    T.
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    Davoud Guest

    Re: Apple and malware

    <tony@well.com> wrote:
    > As I think I understand it, Apple computers are not vulnerable to the
    > spy/malware discussed here, because they do not use a Windows
    > operating system. Is this legend or is it fact?>


    *****

    It's a fact. No spyware, no current viruses/worms/what have you. It's
    quite a coincidence that your post should catch my eye on my first
    visit to this NG. I'm a Mac user -- six of 'em -- who recently bought a
    Win XP Pro laptop (Sony Vaio) to run specific software. (I'm a
    webmaster, and I've been running Win 98 on a Mac with Virtual PC for
    some years in order to do an occasional check of my web pages with
    Explorer for Windows).

    I used to call Windows a cheap imitation of the Mac OS, but I didn't
    really know what I was talking about -- Win XP Pro isn't nearly good
    enough to be called a cheap imitation of the Mac OS!

    So what brought me to this NG? I've never run into spyware before, and
    now something is causing eZula to be downloaded to my Vaio. I have a
    detector/deleter, but I'm trying to find what is causing it to be
    downloaded repeatedly.

    Davoud

    Mac U.S. market share (all machines in use): about 5 percent.
    *Combined* U.S. market share of BMW, Mercedes, Volvo, Audi, Jaguar,
    Saab, and Porsche: about 4.3 percent.

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    Jay T. Blocksom Guest

    Re: Apple and malware

    On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 01:13:56 -0400, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, Davoud
    <star@sky.net> wrote:
    >
    > <tony@well.com> wrote:
    > > As I think I understand it, Apple computers are not vulnerable to the
    > > spy/malware discussed here, because they do not use a Windows
    > > operating system. Is this legend or is it fact?>

    >
    > *****
    >
    > It's a fact. No spyware, no current viruses/worms/what have you.

    [snip]

    That is simply NOT true.

    Here is just one example (which is sufficient to disprove your thesis):

    <http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/5374>

    I'll let you do your homework to find the (many) others. (Hint: There's a
    search box near the top of that page... try plugging in "MacOS" and hitting
    hte "Go" button.)

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    Jay T. Blocksom Guest

    Re: Apple and malware

    On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:15:17 GMT, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, tony@well.com
    wrote:
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    > As I think I understand it, Apple computers are not vulnerable to the
    > spy/malware discussed here, because they do not use a Windows
    > operating system. Is this legend or is it fact?
    >

    [snip]

    That is at least a gross oversimplification; but it is not entirely without
    basis.

    Yes, *most* of the stuff that gets discussed *here* is Windows-specific.
    But that does NOT mean that MacOS, Linux, etc., are inherently invulnerable.
    There have in fact been quite a few virii, worms and trojans which targeted
    both of those platforms -- it's just that there have been about 1,000 times
    *more* that have targeted Windows (for several reasons), *and* Windows is
    inherently *more* vulnerable to such attacks.

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