Re: Norton 04 Said to Include anti-Spyware

[Malke]

Bob wrote:

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> "siljaline" <siljaline@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> "James E. Morrow" <jamesemorrow@email.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns93E3D35D0438Ajemorrowemailcom@205.188.138. 161...
>> C-Net reports that the upcoming Norton AV 2004 will include anti-
>> spyware.
> [..snip..]
>> Keeping in mind that all Symantec/Norton products now have digital
>> rights
> management.
>
>
> What is " digital rights management " ?

It means that the new NAV (and all other new Symantec products) will
have Product Activation just like Windows XP, to tie the software to a
specific computer. Given Symantec's dismal record of clean uninstalls,
I won't be buying any of their new products or recommending them to
clients. Too bad, because I've used their stuff for years and always
liked them best.

Malke
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Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

[BillW]

When they do it will be time to dump NAV. I am still suffering problems with
my system created by Turbotax.....


"Malke" <malke@thereisnospoon.com> wrote in message
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> Bob wrote:
>
> > x-no-archive:yes
> > "siljaline" <siljaline@invalid.com> wrote in message
> > news:SpV2b.8556$Cg2.698764@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> >
> > "James E. Morrow" <jamesemorrow@email.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns93E3D35D0438Ajemorrowemailcom@205.188.138. 161...
> >> C-Net reports that the upcoming Norton AV 2004 will include anti-
> >> spyware.
> > [..snip..]
> >> Keeping in mind that all Symantec/Norton products now have digital
> >> rights
> > management.
> >
> >
> > What is " digital rights management " ?
>
> It means that the new NAV (and all other new Symantec products) will
> have Product Activation just like Windows XP, to tie the software to a
> specific computer. Given Symantec's dismal record of clean uninstalls,
> I won't be buying any of their new products or recommending them to
> clients. Too bad, because I've used their stuff for years and always
> liked them best.
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> Don't Panic!

[No Body]

Chuck <libbeyc@schoollink.net> scrawled in
news:97vpkv44fo9jf57lr3c7pji4ap100nqrjo@4ax.com:

I think the defensible, legal answer would be as follows:
1. You are legally allowed to make a backup copy.
2. You are only allowed to have one copy of the software installed
and usable at any one time (the Pro version permits two for less than
twice as much as one). If your system is, as you say, dual boot, it
is all the same "copy", except for the OS-specific settings and
registry entries. Barring the use of a virtual environment (e.g.,
VMWare), you can only run a single copy at a time. And I don't know
how VMWare would react to NAV being run in a virtual environment
while the main environment is running it as well.

> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 04:03:26 -0700, Malke
> <malke@thereisnospoon.com> wrote:
>
>>Bob wrote:
>>
>>> x-no-archive:yes
>>> "siljaline" <siljaline@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:SpV2b.8556$Cg2.698764@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>>
>>> "James E. Morrow" <jamesemorrow@email.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns93E3D35D0438Ajemorrowemailcom@205.188.138. 161...
>>>> C-Net reports that the upcoming Norton AV 2004 will include
>>>> anti- spyware.
>>> [..snip..]
>>>> Keeping in mind that all Symantec/Norton products now have
>>>> digital rights
>>> management.
>>>
>>>
>>> What is " digital rights management " ?
>>
>>It means that the new NAV (and all other new Symantec products)
>>will have Product Activation just like Windows XP, to tie the
>>software to a specific computer. Given Symantec's dismal record of
>>clean uninstalls, I won't be buying any of their new products or
>>recommending them to clients. Too bad, because I've used their
>>stuff for years and always liked them best.
>>
> Sorry folks. It is all my fault. Some time ago I talked to
> Symantec support and told them that I had one computer with one
> hard drive but it was set up to be a multi-boot system. I asked
> if I had to buy two copies of NAV to be legal. Tech support hemmed
> and hawed and didn't really know. I told them that legal on not,
> I was going to install the same software in both boot partitions.
>
> Chuck
> ...
>

[Stoink]

> > What is " digital rights management " ?
>
> It means that the new NAV (and all other new Symantec products) will
> have Product Activation just like Windows XP, to tie the software to a
> specific computer. Given Symantec's dismal record of clean uninstalls,
> I won't be buying any of their new products or recommending them to
> clients. Too bad, because I've used their stuff for years and always
> liked them best.
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> Don't Panic!

I, too, am sorry to hear about this. I suspect it's going to bit them in the
arse bigtime. I don't pirate software, and have paid a small fortune for the
software I run. Nevertheless, I won't by NAV2004. I tolerate product
activation with XP, but won't tolerate it anywhere else. Symantec is going
to loose a lot of business, mine included. Didn't they learn anything from
Intuit?

[Jay T. Blocksom]

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:59:26 -0700, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, "Stoink"
<StoinkUseNet@emberts.nospammy.comy> wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> I, too, am sorry to hear about this. I suspect it's going to bit them in
> the arse bigtime. I don't pirate software, and have paid a small fortune
> for the software I run. Nevertheless, I won't by NAV2004. I tolerate
> product activation with XP, but won't tolerate it anywhere else. Symantec
> is going to loose a lot of business, mine included. Didn't they learn
> anything from Intuit?
>

No, they learned from YOU, via Microsoft.

Think about it.

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