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    Ethic Guest

    Protecting Americans or Bushies Regime ?

    Wednesday, August 13, 2003
    By Declan McCullagh, Staff Writer, CNET News.com


    FBI targets Net phoning


    Internet phone calls are becoming a national security threat that must
    be countered with new wiretap rules, according to an FBI proposal
    presented to regulators this month.

    Internet telephone calls are fast becoming a national security threat
    that must be countered with new police wiretap rules, according to an
    FBI proposal presented quietly to regulators this month.

    Representatives of the FBI's Electronic Surveillance Technology Section
    in Chantilly, Va., have met at least twice in the past three weeks with
    senior officials of the Federal Communications Commission to lobby for
    proposed new Internet eavesdropping rules.

    The FBI-drafted plan seeks to force broadband providers to provide more
    efficient, standardized surveillance facilities and could substantially
    change the way that cable modem and DSL (digital subscriber line)
    companies operate.

    The new rules are necessary, because terrorists could otherwise
    frustrate legitimate wiretaps by placing phone calls over the
    Internet, warns a summary of a July 10 meeting with the FCC that
    the FBI prepared.

    "Broadband networks may ultimately replace narrowband networks,"
    the summary says. "This trend offers increasing opportunities
    for terrorists, spies and criminals to evade lawful electronic
    surveillance."

    In the last year, Internet telephony (also called voice over Internet
    Protocol, or VOIP) has grown increasingly popular among consumers and
    businesses with high-speed connections. Flat-rate plans cost between
    $20 and $40 a month for unlimited local and long-distance calls.

    One of the smaller VOIP providers, Vonage, recently said it has about
    34,000 customers and expects to have 1 million by late 2004.

    According to the proposal that the FCC is considering, any company
    offering cable modem or DSL service to residences or businesses would
    be required to comply with a thicket of federal regulations that would
    establish a central hub for police surveillance of their customers.

    The proposal has alarmed civil libertarians who fear that it might
    jeopardize privacy and warn that the existence of such hubs could
    facilitate broad surveillance of other Internet communications such
    as e-mail, Web browsing and instant messaging.

    Under existing federal wiretapping laws, the FBI already has the
    ability to seek a court order to conduct surveillance of any broadband
    user though its DCS1000 system, previously called Carnivore.

    But the bureau worries that unless Internet providers offer surveillance
    hubs based on common standards, lawbreakers can evade or, at the very
    least, complicate surveillance by using VOIP providers such as Vonage,
    Time Warner Cable, Net2Phone, 8X8, deltathree and DigitalVoice.

    Digital wiretapping
    The origins of this debate date back nine years, to when the
    FBI persuaded Congress to enact a controversial law called the
    Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, or CALEA.

    Louis Freeh, FBI director at the time, testified in 1994 that emerging
    technologies such as call forwarding, call waiting and cellular phones
    had frustrated surveillance efforts.

    Congress responded to the FBI's concern by requiring that
    telecommunications services rewire their networks to provide
    police with guaranteed access for wiretaps.

    Legislators also granted the FCC substantial leeway in defining
    what types of companies must comply. So far, the FCC has interpreted
    CALEA's wiretap-ready requirements to cover only traditional analog
    and wireless telephone service.

    "I think the FCC has a lot of room here," said Stewart Baker, a partner
    at Steptoe & Johnson who represents Internet service providers.

    "CALEA was written knowing that there would be new technologies for
    telecommunications." Baker, the former general counsel of the National
    Security Agency, said it was not clear whether the FBI had yet been
    frustrated by problems when wiretapping VOIP calls.

    Derek Khlopin, regulatory counsel at the Telecommunications Industry
    Association, whose members include Cisco Systems, Ericsson, Lucent
    Technologies, Motorola and Nortel Networks, said what the FBI is
    "worried about is, when you have voice over DSL, if there's a way
    someone could say they're not subject to CALEA."

    In a letter to the FCC, the FBI wrote: "CALEA applies to telecommunications
    carriers providing DSL and other types of wire line broadband access."

    Some members of Khlopin's trade association, such as Cisco, already
    manufacture products that follow CALEA guidelines. Khlopin said his
    group did not have a position on the FBI's request, but suggested that
    "CALEA is not the only way that law enforcement can get the bad guys."

    The FBI's proposal has drawn criticism in regard to privacy issues.

    A representative of DSL provider Speakeasy said the company "does not
    support the extension of CALEA to ISPs, because the proposal appears
    to run counter to our commitment to protect our subscribers' privacy
    first and foremost. We certainly will be closely monitoring the
    progression of this particular proposal."

    Barry Steinhardt, director of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)'s
    technology and liberty program, said the FCC could not legally extend
    CALEA to cover the Internet without additional action by Congress.

    "CALEA does not apply to 'information services,' which was the then
    term of art for the Internet," Steinhardt said. "Voice over IP is just
    that, a voice service over the Net. CALEA should not, and so far has
    not, applied to VOIP."

    The FBI proposal is before the FCC, which has jurisdiction over DSL
    and cable modem providers and is expected to rule on the matter this
    fall. "It's pending before the commission, and we plan to address the
    question," an FCC spokesman said.

    How to follow the law
    It's unclear what a broadband provider must do if the FCC extends CALEA's
    reach, and the regulations survive a possible court challenge from
    privacy groups such as the ACLU or network providers who do not wish
    to comply.

    Martin King, an attorney in the FBI's general counsel's office who
    attended the July 10 meeting, said the bureau would not elaborate on
    its request to the FCC. "On this particular matter, we are going to
    decline to comment," King said.

    Colleen Boothby, a former FCC official who is now a partner at Levine,
    Blaszak, Block & Boothby, said the implications of the FBI's proposal
    would vary based on how a broadband provider's system is configured.

    "It's going to depend on what facilities they have," Boothby said.
    "When designing systems and configuring software and hardware, they
    have to preserve the government's ability to eavesdrop. Does it mean
    physical electrical closets ? Does it mean an extra server in a secure
    room ? It means as many varied things as there are variations in
    network design."

    Lawrence Plumb, a spokesman for Verizon Communications, said: "How does
    a service provider architect its broadband network and equipment to be
    CALEA-compliant ? The exact answer to 'how' isn't known."

    Companies would be reimbursed for their costs to comply with CALEA.
    When enacting the law, Congress earmarked $500 million to reimburse
    telephone and cellular providers for their expenses.

    Police encountered similar problems when wiretaps on customers using
    data services such as mMode from AT&T Wireless and PCS Vision from
    Sprint PCS could intercept only voice communications. Earlier this year,
    VeriSign, Cisco and other members of an industry consortium announced
    a set of products that would permit police to eavesdrop on wireless
    data transmissions.

    FBI meetings
    The FBI appears to have first presented its proposal to the FCC last
    year. But in the July 10 and July 22 meetings, the bureau extended it
    to say that if broadband providers cannot isolate specific VOIP calls
    to and from individual users, they must give police access to the
    "full pipe" -which, by including the complete simultaneous communications
    of hundreds or thousands of customers, could raise substantial privacy
    concerns.

    A summary of the meeting prepared by the FBI said the FCC could
    "require carriers to make the full pipe available and leave law
    enforcement to perform the required minimization. This approach is
    already used when ISPs provide non-CALEA technical assistance for
    lawfully ordered electronic surveillance."

    The July 22 meeting at the FCC included John Pignataro, deputy
    superintendent of Maryland's state police force, two attorneys for
    the FBI's Electronic Surveillance Technology Section, and Leslie
    Szwajkowski, the head of that section's policy unit. They met with
    a senior advisor to FCC Commissioner Kevin Martin. During the July
    11 meeting, FBI representatives met with 10 officials from the FCC's
    Wireline Competition Bureau, its Media Bureau and the Office of
    Strategic Planning and Policy Analysis.

    The meetings, according to summaries prepared by the FBI, stressed
    that "broadband telephony involves packet-mode communications, which
    are more difficult to intercept than circuit-mode communications.

    The need for CALEA-standardized broadband intercept capabilities is
    especially urgent in light of today's heightened threats to homeland
    security and the ongoing tendency of criminals to use the most
    clandestine modes of communication."

    In an interview, however, a Vonage representative said the VOIP
    provider had never received a request from a police agency to do
    a live voice interception, though the company has been served with
    subpoenas for stored customer information. "We have been subpoenaed,
    I believe, several times for call records and call data," Vonage's
    Brooke Schulz said. "We've responded to those subpoenas very, very
    quickly. Because of the way our service is set up, we have all this
    data on hand, and it's very easy to do."

    Schulz said if Vonage were to receive a proper request to perform a
    live voice interception, it would be trivial to comply with, because
    all the company's VOIP calls flow through central servers. "We are
    able to copy the data stream and send it in tandem to another location,
    " Schulz said. "You can essentially send it to the law enforcement
    agency you need to send it to, as long as they have the proper
    equipment and the proper interconnect."

    Because Vonage's network already is accessible to police armed with a
    legal wiretap order, Schulz said she was mystified by the FBI's
    proposal to the FCC. "We really don't know where it's coming from,"
    she said.

    Why the proposal ?
    The FBI declined to elaborate on the justification for its proposal.
    An FBI agent who attended the pair of meetings and spoke on condition
    of anonymity said that "if it's pending, we don't want to be talking
    about it."

    One explanation for the proposal is that not all VOIP networks flow
    through a service that can be readily wiretapped. For instance,
    Pulver.com's Free World Dialup connects about 38,000 subscribers in
    150 countries who typically use Cisco ATA-186 and Cisco 7960 VOIP
    phones to talk to each other directly.

    The best place to intercept those types of VOIP calls would likely
    be at the user's broadband provider.

    A second explanation for the FBI's proposal is that, by requiring
    broadband providers to comply with CALEA, police would have an easier
    time wiretapping other types of Internet communications such as e-mail,
    Web browsing and instant-messaging services.

    David Sobel, general counsel of the Electronic Privacy Information
    Center, said : "It seems that current practices are providing the
    government with full access" to VOIP calls.

    Baker, the CALEA attorney at Steptoe and Johnson, said: "It would be
    very difficult to set up a network so that you could only intercept
    voice packets and not the others. The likely result here is that you'll
    have modifications that are useful for law enforcement not just for
    voice packets but for other packets as well."

    Yet another reason for the FBI's proposal, Baker said, is that the
    bureau is very interested in details about a VOIP phone call, not just
    the conversation itself. Those details, such as who was on the call,
    are called "punch list items" according to CALEA. "It's not about
    content but about getting call-identifying information or traffic
    analysis," Baker said. "Who was on the line, how long they stayed on,
    who did they put on hold--things like that. The FBI has always wanted
    to get that information served up very neatly, promptly and conveniently."

    Some Internet providers have welcomed the FBI as an ally on this issue,
    which has arisen as part of an FCC proceeding over broadband deregulation
    and how to classify Internet access. By lobbying the FCC, the bureau is
    essentially seeking to expand the scope of CALEA, which says
    telecommunications
    services must ensure that their equipment and facilities are capable of
    "expeditiously isolating and enabling the government, pursuant to a
    court order or other lawful authorization," to intercept all communications
    from a specific customer.

    FCC Chairman Michael Powell has indicated that he would like to move
    more Internet access services into the category of "information
    services," which have fewer regulations and likely would not be subject
    to CALEA. That alarms DSL providers such as EarthLink, which fear that
    deregulation means that former Baby Bells such as Verizon and BellSouth
    will raise their rates for access to the copper wire that runs to
    telephone subscribers' homes.

    "The FBI is really an ally of sorts," said David Baker, EarthLink's
    vice president for law and public policy. "They're saying to the FCC,
    look, you guys are thinking of classifying everything as an information
    service, but you have to be aware of the implications."

    EarthLink's Baker said "we're already seeing anticompetitive activities
    on the part of the phone companies even under the current rules. You do
    away with those rules, and you're ensuring that customers will have no
    choice but DSL provided by the phone company."

    Unless the FBI's proposal succeeds, he said, "everything that travels
    over a DSL connection, be it voice or e-mail, would be out of the
    reach of law enforcement. That would be a tremendous loophole and a
    breach of national security."

    http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...es/5056424.htm





  2. #2
    esmzoso Guest

    Re: Protecting Americans or Bushies Regime ?

    Haven't you heard?

    Everything is a threat to national security in the U.S.A.

    Phones, email, gatherings of more than two people, [one if your
    schizophrenic], letters, stamps, free press, free speech, due process,
    where your car goes, what you wear, who you associate with, credit
    reports, credit card records, search your house, your car, your pants,
    your luggage, naked photos of you in airports, library books, what you
    eat,t-shirts with the wrong message, posterboard, shoes, movies, radio,
    internet. . .

    I am sure we will all be wearing name tags soon, also.

    "Citizen, where is your name tag? It is supposed to be securely
    fastened to your forehead."

    esmzoso

  3. #3
    -=ô;ö=- Guest

    Re: Protecting Americans or Bushies Regime ?

    Well, only one problem with wiretapping the internet..any good net to net phone program
    worth using has built-in encryption and to break such is currently against the law under
    the DMCA to break...So, if it is discovered by any individuals of such..so sorry...


    "Ethic" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:3f3a8136$0$6186$5402220f@news.sunrise.ch...
    | Wednesday, August 13, 2003
    | By Declan McCullagh, Staff Writer, CNET News.com
    |
    |
    | FBI targets Net phoning
    |
    |
    | Internet phone calls are becoming a national security threat that must
    | be countered with new wiretap rules, according to an FBI proposal
    | presented to regulators this month.
    |
    | Internet telephone calls are fast becoming a national security threat
    | that must be countered with new police wiretap rules, according to an
    | FBI proposal presented quietly to regulators this month.
    |
    | Representatives of the FBI's Electronic Surveillance Technology Section
    | in Chantilly, Va., have met at least twice in the past three weeks with
    | senior officials of the Federal Communications Commission to lobby for
    | proposed new Internet eavesdropping rules.
    |
    | The FBI-drafted plan seeks to force broadband providers to provide more
    | efficient, standardized surveillance facilities and could substantially
    | change the way that cable modem and DSL (digital subscriber line)
    | companies operate.
    |
    | The new rules are necessary, because terrorists could otherwise
    | frustrate legitimate wiretaps by placing phone calls over the
    | Internet, warns a summary of a July 10 meeting with the FCC that
    | the FBI prepared.
    |
    | "Broadband networks may ultimately replace narrowband networks,"
    | the summary says. "This trend offers increasing opportunities
    | for terrorists, spies and criminals to evade lawful electronic
    | surveillance."
    |
    | In the last year, Internet telephony (also called voice over Internet
    | Protocol, or VOIP) has grown increasingly popular among consumers and
    | businesses with high-speed connections. Flat-rate plans cost between
    | $20 and $40 a month for unlimited local and long-distance calls.
    |
    | One of the smaller VOIP providers, Vonage, recently said it has about
    | 34,000 customers and expects to have 1 million by late 2004.
    |
    | According to the proposal that the FCC is considering, any company
    | offering cable modem or DSL service to residences or businesses would
    | be required to comply with a thicket of federal regulations that would
    | establish a central hub for police surveillance of their customers.
    |
    | The proposal has alarmed civil libertarians who fear that it might
    | jeopardize privacy and warn that the existence of such hubs could
    | facilitate broad surveillance of other Internet communications such
    | as e-mail, Web browsing and instant messaging.
    |
    | Under existing federal wiretapping laws, the FBI already has the
    | ability to seek a court order to conduct surveillance of any broadband
    | user though its DCS1000 system, previously called Carnivore.
    |
    | But the bureau worries that unless Internet providers offer surveillance
    | hubs based on common standards, lawbreakers can evade or, at the very
    | least, complicate surveillance by using VOIP providers such as Vonage,
    | Time Warner Cable, Net2Phone, 8X8, deltathree and DigitalVoice.
    |
    | Digital wiretapping
    | The origins of this debate date back nine years, to when the
    | FBI persuaded Congress to enact a controversial law called the
    | Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, or CALEA.
    |
    | Louis Freeh, FBI director at the time, testified in 1994 that emerging
    | technologies such as call forwarding, call waiting and cellular phones
    | had frustrated surveillance efforts.
    |
    | Congress responded to the FBI's concern by requiring that
    | telecommunications services rewire their networks to provide
    | police with guaranteed access for wiretaps.
    |
    | Legislators also granted the FCC substantial leeway in defining
    | what types of companies must comply. So far, the FCC has interpreted
    | CALEA's wiretap-ready requirements to cover only traditional analog
    | and wireless telephone service.
    |
    | "I think the FCC has a lot of room here," said Stewart Baker, a partner
    | at Steptoe & Johnson who represents Internet service providers.
    |
    | "CALEA was written knowing that there would be new technologies for
    | telecommunications." Baker, the former general counsel of the National
    | Security Agency, said it was not clear whether the FBI had yet been
    | frustrated by problems when wiretapping VOIP calls.
    |
    | Derek Khlopin, regulatory counsel at the Telecommunications Industry
    | Association, whose members include Cisco Systems, Ericsson, Lucent
    | Technologies, Motorola and Nortel Networks, said what the FBI is
    | "worried about is, when you have voice over DSL, if there's a way
    | someone could say they're not subject to CALEA."
    |
    | In a letter to the FCC, the FBI wrote: "CALEA applies to telecommunications
    | carriers providing DSL and other types of wire line broadband access."
    |
    | Some members of Khlopin's trade association, such as Cisco, already
    | manufacture products that follow CALEA guidelines. Khlopin said his
    | group did not have a position on the FBI's request, but suggested that
    | "CALEA is not the only way that law enforcement can get the bad guys."
    |
    | The FBI's proposal has drawn criticism in regard to privacy issues.
    |
    | A representative of DSL provider Speakeasy said the company "does not
    | support the extension of CALEA to ISPs, because the proposal appears
    | to run counter to our commitment to protect our subscribers' privacy
    | first and foremost. We certainly will be closely monitoring the
    | progression of this particular proposal."
    |
    | Barry Steinhardt, director of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)'s
    | technology and liberty program, said the FCC could not legally extend
    | CALEA to cover the Internet without additional action by Congress.
    |
    | "CALEA does not apply to 'information services,' which was the then
    | term of art for the Internet," Steinhardt said. "Voice over IP is just
    | that, a voice service over the Net. CALEA should not, and so far has
    | not, applied to VOIP."
    |
    | The FBI proposal is before the FCC, which has jurisdiction over DSL
    | and cable modem providers and is expected to rule on the matter this
    | fall. "It's pending before the commission, and we plan to address the
    | question," an FCC spokesman said.
    |
    | How to follow the law
    | It's unclear what a broadband provider must do if the FCC extends CALEA's
    | reach, and the regulations survive a possible court challenge from
    | privacy groups such as the ACLU or network providers who do not wish
    | to comply.
    |
    | Martin King, an attorney in the FBI's general counsel's office who
    | attended the July 10 meeting, said the bureau would not elaborate on
    | its request to the FCC. "On this particular matter, we are going to
    | decline to comment," King said.
    |
    | Colleen Boothby, a former FCC official who is now a partner at Levine,
    | Blaszak, Block & Boothby, said the implications of the FBI's proposal
    | would vary based on how a broadband provider's system is configured.
    |
    | "It's going to depend on what facilities they have," Boothby said.
    | "When designing systems and configuring software and hardware, they
    | have to preserve the government's ability to eavesdrop. Does it mean
    | physical electrical closets ? Does it mean an extra server in a secure
    | room ? It means as many varied things as there are variations in
    | network design."
    |
    | Lawrence Plumb, a spokesman for Verizon Communications, said: "How does
    | a service provider architect its broadband network and equipment to be
    | CALEA-compliant ? The exact answer to 'how' isn't known."
    |
    | Companies would be reimbursed for their costs to comply with CALEA.
    | When enacting the law, Congress earmarked $500 million to reimburse
    | telephone and cellular providers for their expenses.
    |
    | Police encountered similar problems when wiretaps on customers using
    | data services such as mMode from AT&T Wireless and PCS Vision from
    | Sprint PCS could intercept only voice communications. Earlier this year,
    | VeriSign, Cisco and other members of an industry consortium announced
    | a set of products that would permit police to eavesdrop on wireless
    | data transmissions.
    |
    | FBI meetings
    | The FBI appears to have first presented its proposal to the FCC last
    | year. But in the July 10 and July 22 meetings, the bureau extended it
    | to say that if broadband providers cannot isolate specific VOIP calls
    | to and from individual users, they must give police access to the
    | "full pipe" -which, by including the complete simultaneous communications
    | of hundreds or thousands of customers, could raise substantial privacy
    | concerns.
    |
    | A summary of the meeting prepared by the FBI said the FCC could
    | "require carriers to make the full pipe available and leave law
    | enforcement to perform the required minimization. This approach is
    | already used when ISPs provide non-CALEA technical assistance for
    | lawfully ordered electronic surveillance."
    |
    | The July 22 meeting at the FCC included John Pignataro, deputy
    | superintendent of Maryland's state police force, two attorneys for
    | the FBI's Electronic Surveillance Technology Section, and Leslie
    | Szwajkowski, the head of that section's policy unit. They met with
    | a senior advisor to FCC Commissioner Kevin Martin. During the July
    | 11 meeting, FBI representatives met with 10 officials from the FCC's
    | Wireline Competition Bureau, its Media Bureau and the Office of
    | Strategic Planning and Policy Analysis.
    |
    | The meetings, according to summaries prepared by the FBI, stressed
    | that "broadband telephony involves packet-mode communications, which
    | are more difficult to intercept than circuit-mode communications.
    |
    | The need for CALEA-standardized broadband intercept capabilities is
    | especially urgent in light of today's heightened threats to homeland
    | security and the ongoing tendency of criminals to use the most
    | clandestine modes of communication."
    |
    | In an interview, however, a Vonage representative said the VOIP
    | provider had never received a request from a police agency to do
    | a live voice interception, though the company has been served with
    | subpoenas for stored customer information. "We have been subpoenaed,
    | I believe, several times for call records and call data," Vonage's
    | Brooke Schulz said. "We've responded to those subpoenas very, very
    | quickly. Because of the way our service is set up, we have all this
    | data on hand, and it's very easy to do."
    |
    | Schulz said if Vonage were to receive a proper request to perform a
    | live voice interception, it would be trivial to comply with, because
    | all the company's VOIP calls flow through central servers. "We are
    | able to copy the data stream and send it in tandem to another location,
    | " Schulz said. "You can essentially send it to the law enforcement
    | agency you need to send it to, as long as they have the proper
    | equipment and the proper interconnect."
    |
    | Because Vonage's network already is accessible to police armed with a
    | legal wiretap order, Schulz said she was mystified by the FBI's
    | proposal to the FCC. "We really don't know where it's coming from,"
    | she said.
    |
    | Why the proposal ?
    | The FBI declined to elaborate on the justification for its proposal.
    | An FBI agent who attended the pair of meetings and spoke on condition
    | of anonymity said that "if it's pending, we don't want to be talking
    | about it."
    |
    | One explanation for the proposal is that not all VOIP networks flow
    | through a service that can be readily wiretapped. For instance,
    | Pulver.com's Free World Dialup connects about 38,000 subscribers in
    | 150 countries who typically use Cisco ATA-186 and Cisco 7960 VOIP
    | phones to talk to each other directly.
    |
    | The best place to intercept those types of VOIP calls would likely
    | be at the user's broadband provider.
    |
    | A second explanation for the FBI's proposal is that, by requiring
    | broadband providers to comply with CALEA, police would have an easier
    | time wiretapping other types of Internet communications such as e-mail,
    | Web browsing and instant-messaging services.
    |
    | David Sobel, general counsel of the Electronic Privacy Information
    | Center, said : "It seems that current practices are providing the
    | government with full access" to VOIP calls.
    |
    | Baker, the CALEA attorney at Steptoe and Johnson, said: "It would be
    | very difficult to set up a network so that you could only intercept
    | voice packets and not the others. The likely result here is that you'll
    | have modifications that are useful for law enforcement not just for
    | voice packets but for other packets as well."
    |
    | Yet another reason for the FBI's proposal, Baker said, is that the
    | bureau is very interested in details about a VOIP phone call, not just
    | the conversation itself. Those details, such as who was on the call,
    | are called "punch list items" according to CALEA. "It's not about
    | content but about getting call-identifying information or traffic
    | analysis," Baker said. "Who was on the line, how long they stayed on,
    | who did they put on hold--things like that. The FBI has always wanted
    | to get that information served up very neatly, promptly and conveniently."
    |
    | Some Internet providers have welcomed the FBI as an ally on this issue,
    | which has arisen as part of an FCC proceeding over broadband deregulation
    | and how to classify Internet access. By lobbying the FCC, the bureau is
    | essentially seeking to expand the scope of CALEA, which says
    | telecommunications
    | services must ensure that their equipment and facilities are capable of
    | "expeditiously isolating and enabling the government, pursuant to a
    | court order or other lawful authorization," to intercept all communications
    | from a specific customer.
    |
    | FCC Chairman Michael Powell has indicated that he would like to move
    | more Internet access services into the category of "information
    | services," which have fewer regulations and likely would not be subject
    | to CALEA. That alarms DSL providers such as EarthLink, which fear that
    | deregulation means that former Baby Bells such as Verizon and BellSouth
    | will raise their rates for access to the copper wire that runs to
    | telephone subscribers' homes.
    |
    | "The FBI is really an ally of sorts," said David Baker, EarthLink's
    | vice president for law and public policy. "They're saying to the FCC,
    | look, you guys are thinking of classifying everything as an information
    | service, but you have to be aware of the implications."
    |
    | EarthLink's Baker said "we're already seeing anticompetitive activities
    | on the part of the phone companies even under the current rules. You do
    | away with those rules, and you're ensuring that customers will have no
    | choice but DSL provided by the phone company."
    |
    | Unless the FBI's proposal succeeds, he said, "everything that travels
    | over a DSL connection, be it voice or e-mail, would be out of the
    | reach of law enforcement. That would be a tremendous loophole and a
    | breach of national security."
    |
    | http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...es/5056424.htm
    |
    |
    |
    |



  4. #4
    StopinDaSpam Guest

    Re: Protecting Americans or Bushies Regime ?

    Welcomew to the Bush Regime! the Fourth Reich. Heil Bush!!

    esmzoso wrote:
    > Haven't you heard?
    >
    > Everything is a threat to national security in the U.S.A.
    >
    > Phones, email, gatherings of more than two people, [one if your
    > schizophrenic], letters, stamps, free press, free speech, due process,
    > where your car goes, what you wear, who you associate with, credit
    > reports, credit card records, search your house, your car, your pants,
    > your luggage, naked photos of you in airports, library books, what you
    > eat,t-shirts with the wrong message, posterboard, shoes, movies, radio,
    > internet. . .
    >
    > I am sure we will all be wearing name tags soon, also.
    >
    > "Citizen, where is your name tag? It is supposed to be securely
    > fastened to your forehead."
    >
    > esmzoso



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  5. #5
    Eric Lee Green Guest

    Re: Protecting Americans or Bushies Regime ?

    In article <140820030238095203%none@none.com>, esmzoso ruminated:
    > I am sure we will all be wearing name tags soon, also.
    >
    > "Citizen, where is your name tag? It is supposed to be securely
    > fastened to your forehead."


    No no, your Citizen Identification Number is supposed to be *tattooed*
    on your forehead. Otherwise you may be a terrorist, and we'll have to
    take you down to the Ministry of Love and, well, you don't want to know.

    Remember:

    War is Peace. Love is Hate. Ignorance is Strength. Welcome to 1984.

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  6. #6
    Igor Gutman Guest

    Re: Protecting Americans or Bushies Regime ?

    StopinDaSpam wrote:
    >
    > Welcomew to the Bush Regime! the Fourth Reich. Heil Bush!!
    >


    you guys think he'll get a second term?..

  7. #7
    Eric Lee Green Guest

    Re: Protecting Americans or Bushies Regime ?

    In article <3F3BFFB9.B5924E20@videotron.ca>, Igor Gutman ruminated:
    > StopinDaSpam wrote:
    >>
    >> Welcomew to the Bush Regime! the Fourth Reich. Heil Bush!!
    >>

    >
    > you guys think he'll get a second term?..


    Sure, if a) he cancels the elections, or b) his operatives rig all the
    voting machines.

    Otherwise...

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  8. #8
    esmzoso Guest

    Re: Protecting Americans or Bushies Regime ?

    He's [George W.] pretty popular.

    I don't see anyone really viable at this time to challenge him.

    But, it looked that way for his father also. I think "read my lips"
    stopped Bush I from being re-elected.

    But really, who will we have to choose from? More criminal politicians
    with other circles of friends, with other objectives?

    It's looking pretty bleak.

    esmzoso

  9. #9
    Jay T. Blocksom Guest

    Re: Protecting Americans or Bushies Regime ?

    On 14 Aug 2003 13:24:31 -0500, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, Eric Lee Green
    <eric@badtux.org> wrote:
    >

    [snip]
    >
    > No no, your Citizen Identification Number is supposed to be *tattooed*
    > on your forehead. Otherwise you may be a terrorist, and we'll have to
    > take you down to the Ministry of Love and, well, you don't want to know.
    >

    [snip]

    Actually, your options are palm, arm, or chest:

    <http://www.whitehouse.org/homeland/tattoo.asp>

    > Remember:
    >
    > War is Peace. Love is Hate. Ignorance is Strength. Welcome to 1984.


    Uhhh... Yeah.

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  10. #10
    Thane@Cawdor.Net Guest

    Re: Protecting Americans or Bushies Regime ?

    On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 17:31:37 -0400, Igor Gutman <gutman@videotron.ca>
    wrote:

    >StopinDaSpam wrote:
    >>
    >> Welcomew to the Bush Regime! the Fourth Reich. Heil Bush!!
    >>

    >
    >you guys think he'll get a second term?..


    Yeah, if he don't win it he'll steal it like last time...Or use
    terrorism as an excuse to declare martial law and "postpone" the
    election.



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