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    Capps Guest

    Re: Question about "daytime"

    The saga continues....

    Ok... I set the firewall to reject TCP port 13 requests from
    my clients (on the private lan). The Winblows 2k box that was
    generating these requests was over a 802.11g connection. (wireless)

    Hmmm... that was a bad idea. The Winblows 2k box didn't care
    much for the rejects. It went wild sending TCP port 13 requests
    to one host after another. Very rapidly rotating across hosts. This
    created a heavy load on the Wireless net. So.. Since there
    appears to be no way to disable this on the client, I changed
    the firewall to just drop any TCP port 13 requests coming from
    clients on the private lan. This seems to have slowed the Winblows 2k
    box down to only making requests every few seconds.

    The traffic on the wireless net is now back to a reasonable level, and
    the client has been upgraded to use TCP 123 (SNTP) to a server
    that is more reasonable. I can't stop the client from sending the
    TCP port 13 requests, but the level of pain is now tolerable, and
    it will not be maintaining a connection with M$.

    Thanks,
    Don Capps


    "Jay T. Blocksom" <usenet01+SPAMBLOCK@appropriate-tech.net> wrote in message
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    > On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:35:20 GMT, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, "Capps"
    > <capps@iozone.org> wrote:
    > >
    > > Is there some reason that my Windows 2000 clients would
    > > be needing to talk to www.us.microsoft.com on TCP port 13
    > > (Daytime) ? Or, should I be blocking this at the firewall ?
    > >

    > [snip]
    >
    > You should be blocking EVERYTHING that you do not have a specific reason

    to
    > *not* block. In the case of Port 13, unless you use the (outdated, and
    > rather useless compared to NTP) "Daytime" service, there is no reason to
    > permit any traffic on that port. (And even if you do, allow it only to

    the
    > host/IP that YOU decide to get the time hack from).
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    Jay T. Blocksom Guest

    Re: Question about "daytime"

    On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:19:40 GMT, in <alt.privacy.spyware>, "Capps"
    <capps@iozone.org> wrote:
    >
    > The saga continues....
    >
    > Ok... I set the firewall to reject TCP port 13 requests from
    > my clients (on the private lan). The Winblows 2k box that was
    > generating these requests was over a 802.11g connection. (wireless)
    >
    > Hmmm... that was a bad idea. The Winblows 2k box didn't care
    > much for the rejects. It went wild sending TCP port 13 requests
    > to one host after another. Very rapidly rotating across hosts. This
    > created a heavy load on the Wireless net.

    [snip]

    This just doesn't sound right. Are you *sure* you haven't picked up a
    parasite of some sort? Whatever it is, it is *very* badly behaved.

    Also, perchance is that Win2K box the Terminal Services Edition, or running
    the Terminal Services module? That's about the only thing (besides
    "Daytime") that came up on a Google search on "Windows 2000" and either
    "Port 13" or "TCP 13" -- tho' some of the hits those searches produced may
    be of general interest to you.

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