Spybot quandary

[tony@well.com]

With the latest update for Spybot 1.2, I'm puzzled by the following:

Run it once: it reports and I ask it to fix:

Avenue A, Inc.: Tracking cookie or cookie of tracking site (File,
fixed)
C:\WINDOWS\delet\tony@atdmt[2].txt

DoubleClick: Tracking cookie or cookie of tracking site (File, fixed)
C:\WINDOWS\delet\tony@doubleclick[1].txt

MediaPlex: Tracking cookie or cookie of tracking site (File, fixed)
C:\WINDOWS\delet\tony@mediaplex[2].txt

Surf and browse for a few hours: it reports the same thing again.

Hence the quandary: should these not be blocked once they are "fixed"?
And is the "delet" directory created by Spybot?

T.
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Tony Roder, speaking his mind....

[mto]

<tony@well.com> wrote in message
news:ks30iv4tmkoq53cr68teieb6c9lrj6v2l6@4ax.com...
> With the latest update for Spybot 1.2, I'm puzzled by the following:
>
> Run it once: it reports and I ask it to fix:
>
> Avenue A, Inc.: Tracking cookie or cookie of tracking site (File,
> fixed)
> C:\WINDOWS\delet\tony@atdmt[2].txt
>
> DoubleClick: Tracking cookie or cookie of tracking site (File, fixed)
> C:\WINDOWS\delet\tony@doubleclick[1].txt
>
> MediaPlex: Tracking cookie or cookie of tracking site (File, fixed)
> C:\WINDOWS\delet\tony@mediaplex[2].txt
>
> Surf and browse for a few hours: it reports the same thing again.
>
> Hence the quandary: should these not be blocked once they are "fixed"?
> And is the "delet" directory created by Spybot?
>

Re should the cookies not be forever banished, unfortunately surf once and
they magically reappear in the ads you view at the sites you visit. Ways
around this -

Use ZA Pro to block all ads everywhere - and the cookies that come with
them.
Turn off all cookies.
Add doubleclick, avenueA and mediaplex servers to your blocked zone.

[tony@well.com]

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:09:12 -0400, "mto" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Use ZA Pro to block all ads everywhere - and the cookies that come with
>them.

I've been climbing the learning curves one at a time... it looks like
it's ZA's turn now. Thanks.

T.

========================
Tony Roder, speaking his mind....

[mto]

"Jeff N." <nortonjjjr@nomorespamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:GuWTa.69900$3o3.4679014@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Instead of letting ZA bumble around with privacy, I just block those
> particular cookies with IE/Security/Restricted Zone/Sites and enter:
> *://*.doubleclick.net
> *://*.mediaplex.com
> I forget what domain avenueA is.
>

Which is well and good except that the block all third party business does
not work all that well in IE, it is a pain in the neck to turn cookies on
and off all the time or alternatively have the d*** box pop up every time
and you cannot block scripts/web bugs with IE. Not to mention that the
blocked sites (which I also use) allows any ad server you haven't yet ID'd
to serve up anyway.

With the ZA you can block on a site by site basis - pop up ads, all ads,
cookies of every stripe - and expire them when you want, activeX, all kinds
of scripts and so forth. So you can allow some things on some sites where
you need/want them and on others allow nothing at all. Much more secure and
far less trouble.

[Jeff N.]

I suppose I am a bit stuck in my ways and content for now. With previous
versions of ZA, I was not impressed with it's attempt to block pop
ups/banner ads. Can't say I've tried it on 4 yet. I never have to turn
cookies on or off. Not sure what, "d***" box you refer to. Unless you are
using Mozilla which that got annoying real quick. I use AdMuncher to block
ads/banners and am quite happy with it's effectiveness. I only bother to
enter sites in the Restricted Zone as they appear with AdAware and that is
only a couple new ones a month tops. I'd be open to experiment with letting
ZA handle some privacy, but got better things to do than haggle with it.

mto wrote:
> "Jeff N." <nortonjjjr@nomorespamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:GuWTa.69900$3o3.4679014@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> Instead of letting ZA bumble around with privacy, I just block those
>> particular cookies with IE/Security/Restricted Zone/Sites and enter:
>> *://*.doubleclick.net
>> *://*.mediaplex.com
>> I forget what domain avenueA is.
>>
>
> Which is well and good except that the block all third party business
> does not work all that well in IE, it is a pain in the neck to turn
> cookies on and off all the time or alternatively have the d*** box
> pop up every time and you cannot block scripts/web bugs with IE. Not
> to mention that the blocked sites (which I also use) allows any ad
> server you haven't yet ID'd to serve up anyway.
>
> With the ZA you can block on a site by site basis - pop up ads, all
> ads, cookies of every stripe - and expire them when you want,
> activeX, all kinds of scripts and so forth. So you can allow some
> things on some sites where you need/want them and on others allow
> nothing at all. Much more secure and far less trouble.

[mto]

"Jeff N." <nortonjjjr@nomorespamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:_fZTa.70081$3o3.4692925@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> I suppose I am a bit stuck in my ways and content for now. With previous
> versions of ZA, I was not impressed with it's attempt to block pop
> ups/banner ads. Can't say I've tried it on 4 yet. I never have to turn
> cookies on or off. Not sure what, "d***" box you refer to.

In IE you can set the browser to prompt for things like scripts and cookies
rather than just enable or disable (though you cannot set it on a site by
site basis). On prompt every single time that a site wants to set a cookie
a miserable popup shows up - one for each and every cookie. Fries my very
last nerve! And when you do allow them in IE, there is no quick and easy
way to expire them instantly or tommorrow rather than 50 years from now like
so many are set to. ZA takes care of that.

I have been exceedingly impressed with the ZA (Pro version, don't know how
the free version is) ad control - haven't seen a single ad other than a text
ad since the day after I installed it. The key is that, rather than just
set your basic privacy settings, you need to click on the privacy tab, then
the Site List tab at the top right corner of the screen where you can set
permissions on a site by site basis. Right click on the URL, choose Options
and you can block all ads, choose what you want to replace them, deal with
cookies, and choose what scripts if any you want to run.

BTW, check all the screens for those right hand corner tabs - under programs
if a component of a program is allowed, then the program is allowed even if
set to block, so set all the components to ask instead of allow. Program
asks only once per reboot as things attempt access.

Re haggling, the first couple of days I went through the list fairly often
setting up permissions for sites as they were entered into the list. Now it
is a matter of a couple or 3 new sites a week tops - less than a minute's
work.

Stuff - invariably ad servers - that goes into my restricted zone I block in
both ZA and the IE. Haven't added anything in a while - since I don't see
any ads nothing comes up in either AdAware or Spybot.

Unless you are
> using Mozilla which that got annoying real quick. I use AdMuncher to
block
> ads/banners and am quite happy with it's effectiveness. I only bother to
> enter sites in the Restricted Zone as they appear with AdAware and that is
> only a couple new ones a month tops. I'd be open to experiment with
letting
> ZA handle some privacy, but got better things to do than haggle with it.

[null@zilch.com]

On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:25:27 GMT, TTBoy <Hungry@Wendys.org> wrote:

> Opera version 7.10 is extremely rock solid.
>TTBoy

Try it on this web site with Java enabled:

http://neurosis.hungry.com/~ben/msie_bug/


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