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  1. #1
    d11@anywhere.com Guest

    IP address of spyware

    How do I get the IP address of different spyware.

    Thank You.

  2. #2
    siljaline Guest

    Re: IP address of spyware

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 01:11:20 GMT, "d11@anywhere.com" <> wrote:

    >How do I get the IP address of different spyware.
    >
    > Thank You.



    http://www.geocities.com/yosponge/blockips.txt

    HTH


    --
    siljaline

    "Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
    because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
    -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
    - Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

  3. #3
    Lance Delacroix Guest

    Re: IP address of spyware

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 01:11:20 GMT, "d11@anywhere.com" <> prounounced a
    fatwah thus:

    >How do I get the IP address of different spyware.


    From Sponge, of course.

    >
    > Thank You.



  4. #4
    d11@anywhere.com Guest

    Re: IP address of spyware

    On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 22:04:54 -0400, siljaline <siljaline@invalid.com>
    wrote:

    >On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 01:11:20 GMT, "d11@anywhere.com" <> wrote:
    >
    >>How do I get the IP address of different spyware.
    >>
    >> Thank You.

    >
    >
    >http://www.geocities.com/yosponge/blockips.txt
    >
    >HTH

    Thanks for the help

  5. #5
    Lance Hill Guest

    Re: IP address of spyware


    "Lance Delacroix" <lance_delacroix@fastmail.fm> wrote...
    > On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 01:11:20 GMT, "d11@anywhere.com" <> prounounced a
    > fatwah thus:
    >
    > >How do I get the IP address of different spyware.

    >
    > From Sponge, of course.


    Help educate a newbie. Sponge looks like a list of "bad" IP addresses you
    can use with your firewall. The HOSTS file I see around here looks like a
    similar list, but it's used to misdirect software to a null or false IP
    address.

    So which is "better"? Or what are the pros and cons of either method?

    Another Lance
    *****



  6. #6
    YK Guest

    Re: IP address of spyware

    Lance Hill wrote:
    > "Lance Delacroix" <lance_delacroix@fastmail.fm> wrote...
    >> On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 01:11:20 GMT, "d11@anywhere.com" <> prounounced a
    >> fatwah thus:
    >>
    >>> How do I get the IP address of different spyware.

    >>
    >> From Sponge, of course.

    >
    > Help educate a newbie. Sponge looks like a list of "bad" IP addresses
    > you can use with your firewall. The HOSTS file I see around here
    > looks like a similar list, but it's used to misdirect software to a
    > null or false IP address.
    >
    > So which is "better"? Or what are the pros and cons of either method?
    >
    > Another Lance
    > *****


    I do not know which is "better" but I find HOSTS file much easier to manage.

    Tools that I use to manage it.
    HOSTESS
    http://accs-net.com/hostess/
    Has Add, Edit, Delete, Search, Group, Import/Export and create Registry
    Restricted Zone entries.
    Automatically removes duplicates.
    Note: The program author has commited to provide a function to validate
    HOSTS entries.

    HOSTS forum
    http://asp.flaaten.dk/proxo/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=20
    Has over 17,000 ad sites and was updated June 1st.

    The only con that I can think of is that site addresses can not be a range
    ie: 127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.com will not work.


  7. #7
    YK Guest

    Re: IP address of spyware

    Lance Delacroix wrote:
    > On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:39:20 -0700, "Lance Hill"
    > <lltbhill@earthlink.net> prounounced a fatwah thus:
    >>
    >> "Lance Delacroix" <lance_delacroix@fastmail.fm> wrote...
    >>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 01:11:20 GMT, "d11@anywhere.com" <> prounounced
    >>> a fatwah thus:
    >>>
    >>>> How do I get the IP address of different spyware.
    >>>
    >>> From Sponge, of course.

    >>
    >> Help educate a newbie. Sponge looks like a list of "bad" IP
    >> addresses you can use with your firewall. The HOSTS file I see
    >> around here looks like a similar list, but it's used to misdirect
    >> software to a null or false IP address.
    >>
    >> So which is "better"? Or what are the pros and cons of either method?


    First, your time zone setting appears off. It is only 12:14PM here and
    your posting time is 12:50PM.

    > Yes, the HOSTS file is used to redirect DNS lookups to your own
    > computer, in effect cancelling them. The result is that your computer
    > can't connect because it can't complete the DNS lookup. The drawback
    > to a HOSTS file is that it only works with SPECIFIC URL's, one by one;
    > if you want to prevent a lookup to, to use a good example, Akamai, you
    > may have to have hundreds of entries. An effective HOSTS file, by
    > itself, would have to be BIG (500kb?) and would reqiure constant
    > maintenance. Some people report that a big HOSTS file slows down
    > their browsing significantly.


    This is true in Win2K/XP systems and is due to having the local DNS service
    active. Disabling this service solves the problem. I use Bind-PE for my
    DNS service as my ISPs DNS servers are very slow.
    http://members.shaw.ca/BIND-PE_and_ICS/
    http://ntcanuck.com/

    > If you use block files in a firewall, OTOH, you can directly block
    > connections to large groups of consecutive IP addresses; for Akamai,
    > to continue with our example, I think Sponge has ten to twenty
    > entries, each of which includes multiple IPs. This handful of IPs
    > could represent many hundreds of specific URLs, as you can resolve
    > more than one URL to a given IP. Besides the increased efficicency of
    > this method, it has the advantage of preventing spyware from
    > connecting when that spyware uses an IP address instead of a URL (I'd
    > imagine that this would be the preferred way of connecting using
    > spyware). Thus, using a firewall with block files is more effective
    > than using a HOSTS file -- IF you can be sure of the IPs!


    That is a good advantage.
    I use a combination of SpywareBlaster and SpyBot S&D Immunize function to
    nutralize drive by hijackers.
    (More than one way to skin a cat)

    > Obviously, a combination of strategies is best. Another useful tool
    > is DNSKong (used with eDexter), which is kind of like a HOSTS-file
    > approach but using a very small file. It works by using strings
    > instead of full URLs; just entering "Akamai" in a DNSKong config file
    > will have the effect of preventing DNS lookups to *any* Akamai URL
    > that contains the string "Akamai" (assuming appropriate positioning of
    > the string inside the URL).
    >
    > I hope this makes sense. If you're really new to this, it's going to
    > take you a while to see how everything fits together.
    >>
    >> Another Lance

    >
    > Is your name really Lance? Mine isn't. I just chose "Lance Delacoix"
    > for the phallic-religious connotations.



  8. #8
    siljaline Guest

    Re: IP address of spyware

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 13:43:55 GMT, "d11@anywhere.com" <> wrote:

    >>http://www.geocities.com/yosponge/blockips.txt
    >>
    >>HTH

    >Thanks for the help


    You're welcome, that's one of the best Spyware block IP lists you will ever see.


    --
    siljaline

    "Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
    because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
    -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
    - Neil Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_

  9. #9
    d11@anywhere.com Guest

    Re: IP address of spyware

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 15:59:15 GMT, "YK" <YKnot@home.invalid> wrote:

    >Lance Hill wrote:
    >> "Lance Delacroix" <lance_delacroix@fastmail.fm> wrote...
    >>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 01:11:20 GMT, "d11@anywhere.com" <> prounounced a
    >>> fatwah thus:
    >>>
    >>>> How do I get the IP address of different spyware.
    >>>
    >>> From Sponge, of course.

    >>
    >> Help educate a newbie. Sponge looks like a list of "bad" IP addresses
    >> you can use with your firewall. The HOSTS file I see around here
    >> looks like a similar list, but it's used to misdirect software to a
    >> null or false IP address.
    >>
    >> So which is "better"? Or what are the pros and cons of either method?
    >>
    >> Another Lance
    >> *****

    >
    >I do not know which is "better" but I find HOSTS file much easier to manage.
    >
    >Tools that I use to manage it.
    >HOSTESS
    >http://accs-net.com/hostess/
    >Has Add, Edit, Delete, Search, Group, Import/Export and create Registry
    >Restricted Zone entries.
    >Automatically removes duplicates.
    >Note: The program author has commited to provide a function to validate
    >HOSTS entries.
    >
    >HOSTS forum
    >http://asp.flaaten.dk/proxo/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=20
    >Has over 17,000 ad sites and was updated June 1st.
    >
    >The only con that I can think of is that site addresses can not be a range
    >ie: 127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.com will not work.

    Thank you for the links and taking the time to help.

  10. #10
    d11@anywhere.com Guest

    Re: IP address of spyware

    On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 19:50:30 +0300, Lance Delacroix
    <lance_delacroix@fastmail.fm> wrote:

    >On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:39:20 -0700, "Lance Hill"
    ><lltbhill@earthlink.net> prounounced a fatwah thus:
    >
    >>
    >>"Lance Delacroix" <lance_delacroix@fastmail.fm> wrote...
    >>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 01:11:20 GMT, "d11@anywhere.com" <> prounounced a
    >>> fatwah thus:
    >>>
    >>> >How do I get the IP address of different spyware.
    >>>
    >>> From Sponge, of course.

    >>
    >>Help educate a newbie. Sponge looks like a list of "bad" IP addresses you
    >>can use with your firewall. The HOSTS file I see around here looks like a
    >>similar list, but it's used to misdirect software to a null or false IP
    >>address.
    >>
    >>So which is "better"? Or what are the pros and cons of either method?

    >
    >Yes, the HOSTS file is used to redirect DNS lookups to your own
    >computer, in effect cancelling them. The result is that your computer
    >can't connect because it can't complete the DNS lookup. The drawback
    >to a HOSTS file is that it only works with SPECIFIC URL's, one by one;
    >if you want to prevent a lookup to, to use a good example, Akamai, you
    >may have to have hundreds of entries. An effective HOSTS file, by
    >itself, would have to be BIG (500kb?) and would reqiure constant
    >maintenance. Some people report that a big HOSTS file slows down
    >their browsing significantly.
    >
    >If you use block files in a firewall, OTOH, you can directly block
    >connections to large groups of consecutive IP addresses; for Akamai,
    >to continue with our example, I think Sponge has ten to twenty
    >entries, each of which includes multiple IPs. This handful of IPs
    >could represent many hundreds of specific URLs, as you can resolve
    >more than one URL to a given IP. Besides the increased efficicency of
    >this method, it has the advantage of preventing spyware from
    >connecting when that spyware uses an IP address instead of a URL (I'd
    >imagine that this would be the preferred way of connecting using
    >spyware). Thus, using a firewall with block files is more effective
    >than using a HOSTS file -- IF you can be sure of the IPs!
    >
    >Obviously, a combination of strategies is best. Another useful tool
    >is DNSKong (used with eDexter), which is kind of like a HOSTS-file
    >approach but using a very small file. It works by using strings
    >instead of full URLs; just entering "Akamai" in a DNSKong config file
    >will have the effect of preventing DNS lookups to *any* Akamai URL
    >that contains the string "Akamai" (assuming appropriate positioning of
    >the string inside the URL).
    >
    >I hope this makes sense. If you're really new to this, it's going to
    >take you a while to see how everything fits together.
    >
    >>
    >>Another Lance

    >
    >Is your name really Lance? Mine isn't. I just chose "Lance Delacoix"
    >for the phallic-religious connotations.
    >
    >>*****
    >>Thanks for the help Lance.



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