Just trying to document the file name since nothing comes up with google, but with safe mode AVG took care of it. I have to say that I tried safe mode via msconfig and I couldn't get the machine to start again, had to use a boot disk and redo the boot.ini file to stop safe mode and load normal again. Then I used f8 instead, but only "safe mode networking" would load. I didn't do everything Exactly, but you know, I did get it to work with your recommendations and I am very thankful for your help and time, pura vida, bm