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  1. #11
    VanguardLH Guest

    Re: vacation send me money scam

    /NOTE: Missing attribution lines were inserted due to use of WLM v15 by
    Quilljar which doesn't add them nor did Quilljar bother to add them./

    Quilljar wrote:

    > David H. Lipman wrote...
    >
    >> Quilljar said:
    >>
    >>> David H. Lipman wrote...
    >>>
    >>>> Change the password to your Webmail account ASAP and make sure it
    >>>> is a Strong Password.
    >>>
    >>> I can do that but why my webmail account only

    >>
    >> That's probably what was compromised.

    >
    > I have never had any contacts list in my Yahoo mail. I do not know of
    > any other webmail connection that i may have.But I have certainly
    > changed my password!


    The webmail login credentials are the SAME as what you recorded in your
    local e-mail client. After using the webmail interface to your
    *account* to change your login credentials (usually just the password)
    then you'll have to update the accounts defined in your *unidentified*
    local e-mail client, too.

    There are a few (usually old) spambots that usurp your e-mail client to
    use it to send the outgoing spam but any decent anti-virus/malware
    program will probably catch those pests on your computer. It's clumsy
    to use your own e-mail client plus more likely to be visible than to run
    a spambot process on your computer. Also, it is more likely that your
    address book's contents got harvested and sent elsewhere to get use to
    generate the spam e-mails.

    Get a copy of the spam e-mails so you can see where it came from by the
    Received headers in it. Then you (or we) can tell if the spam is
    originating from your webmail account (i.e., it got hacked) or from
    somewhere else. If the contacts got harvested and sent somewhere else,
    your webmail account wasn't hacked so it's not the source of the spam
    and changing your account's password will have no effect on the spam
    generated from elsewhere.

    Also, besides changing the password in your e-mail account (up on the
    server), also change whatever information is requested by their "Forgot
    Password" process. If it was your webmail account that got hacked,
    changing your password means they'll just use your same old info
    requested by the "Forgot Password" process and they'll be back in. In
    fact, you might find the hacker already changed that data to something
    they will remember. Change to a STRONG password *and* change whatever
    gets used by the "Forgot Password" process.

    So when might you get around to performing a scan of your computer with
    a decent anti-virus/malware program? You have yet to mention doing so.

  2. #12
    FromTheRafters Guest

    Re: vacation send me money scam

    Quilljar wrote:
    >
    >
    > "FromTheRafters" wrote in message news:jq37k0$g8e$1@dont-email.me...
    > Quilljar wrote:
    >> I have just found out that people in my address book are being targeted
    >> by the well-known scam asking for money as I have apparently been mugged
    >> in Manila!
    >> I would be most grateful if someone with the skills could advise me how
    >> to deal with this properly. i don't want to email everyone on my address
    >> list in case iIspread the problem further.

    >
    > Is this address book online or only on your computer?
    >
    > Only on my computer


    Do you have an antivirus or antimalware program running on that computer?


  3. #13
    Quilljar Guest

    Re: vacation send me money scam



    I don't wish to sound defensive, but I didn't mention my considerable army
    of anti spyware and malicious protection as I assumed everyone on this NG
    would be similarly protected. I am scanned by Malwarebytes Pro and SuperAnti
    Spyware every day. Plus I use MS Security Essentials at all times and have
    had no problems for the last fifteen years.
    This is why I asked for advice.
    Q



  4. #14
    Timmy Guest

    Re: vacation send me money scam

    Aardvark wrote ...


    >
    > What did the Manila police say when you didn't report the crime?



    WTF ?



  5. #15
    Aardvark Guest

    Re: vacation send me money scam

    On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:21:28 +0100, Timmy wrote:

    > Aardvark wrote ...
    >
    >
    >
    >> What did the Manila police say when you didn't report the crime?

    >
    >
    > WTF ?


    Well, the OP *wasn't* mugged in Manila, so didn't report it. Perhaps I
    should have asked what the Manila police *didn't* say.



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  6. #16
    Charlie Guest

    Re: vacation send me money scam

    On Wed, 30 May 2012 16:33:14 +0000 (UTC), Aardvark wrote:

    > Well, the OP *wasn't* mugged in Manila, so didn't report it. Perhaps I
    > should have asked what the Manila police *didn't* say.


    They didn't say nuffink!

  7. #17
    Aardvark Guest

    Re: vacation send me money scam

    On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:14:46 +0100, Charlie wrote:

    > On Wed, 30 May 2012 16:33:14 +0000 (UTC), Aardvark wrote:
    >
    >> Well, the OP *wasn't* mugged in Manila, so didn't report it. Perhaps I
    >> should have asked what the Manila police *didn't* say.

    >
    > They didn't say nuffink!


    :-)

    At least somebody got the ****ing joke.

    The guy wasn't even *in* Manila, from what I can surmise.



    --
    "Tell me, truthfully, do *you* download music from The Pirate Bay for
    your personal use and listening pleasure?"
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  8. #18
    Dustin Guest

    Re: vacation send me money scam

    Aardvark <aardvark@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote in news:jq5i4a$kti$1@dont-
    email.me:

    > On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:21:28 +0100, Timmy wrote:
    >
    >> Aardvark wrote ...
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> What did the Manila police say when you didn't report the crime?

    >>
    >>
    >> WTF ?

    >
    > Well, the OP *wasn't* mugged in Manila, so didn't report it. Perhaps I
    > should have asked what the Manila police *didn't* say.
    >
    >
    >


    Doubt it would do any good.
    See here:

    Message-ID: <MPG.2a2f02b993e4729398978c@news.aioe.org>

    here:

    Message-ID: <MPG.2a2f57dc5f56271398978d@news.aioe.org>

    and here:

    Message-ID: <MPG.2a305917d9aa901f98978f@news.aioe.org>

    He quoted what he responded to, so I didn't see a reason to repost mine
    as well.

    --
    Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too
    many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and
    the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts

  9. #19
    FromTheRafters Guest

    Re: vacation send me money scam

    Quilljar wrote:
    >
    >
    > I don't wish to sound defensive, but I didn't mention my considerable
    > army of anti spyware and malicious protection as I assumed everyone on
    > this NG would be similarly protected. I am scanned by Malwarebytes Pro
    > and SuperAnti Spyware every day. Plus I use MS Security Essentials at
    > all times and have had no problems for the last fifteen years.
    > This is why I asked for advice.
    > Q
    >

    No problem, I only asked because had you not had such protection you
    would want to change those passwords using another machine. Some
    keyloggers are thought to be providing scammers with passwords for
    social media accounts and webmail and sending out this very scam. If you
    change the passwords while using a compromised machine you have gained
    nothing. Also, it is suggested that you change the "Forgot Your
    Password" special question also.


  10. #20
    FromTheRafters Guest

    Re: vacation send me money scam

    Aardvark wrote:
    > On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:14:46 +0100, Charlie wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 30 May 2012 16:33:14 +0000 (UTC), Aardvark wrote:
    >>
    >>> Well, the OP *wasn't* mugged in Manila, so didn't report it. Perhaps I
    >>> should have asked what the Manila police *didn't* say.

    >>
    >> They didn't say nuffink!

    >
    > :-)
    >
    > At least somebody got the ****ing joke.
    >
    > The guy wasn't even *in* Manila, from what I can surmise.
    >

    After this scam runs its course, anybody that *does* get mugged in
    Manila won't be able to get financial help from his friends.


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