Can You Answer These Twelve Internet Security Questions?

[David_B]

Dustin wrote:
> David_B<David_B@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:jppsgn$j01$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> It is precisely *because* of my failure back in 2005 that I've dug so
>> deep. Few people know, nor care, about the many traps set for them
>> around the Internet. It's a very dangerous place!
>
> You aren't qualified to teach a turd, tho.
>
>> How do *you* use *your* skills to *help* folk, Dustin Cook?
>
> Need more for your dossier on me eh?

You were *never* a target - I told you before! (You didn't listen)

Look here:

https://groups.google.com/groups?as_...&sa=N&start=20

14000 posts by James Eshelman - can you find one in the past few years?

*Something* smells, Dustin!

[Aardvark]

On Sat, 26 May 2012 02:35:20 +0000, Dustin wrote:

> FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:jpp7lu$pgk$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> Aardvark wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 May 2012 21:26:44 +0000, Aardvark wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Perhaps SM does pre-rendering in newsgroups?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Possibly. I might try it in Konqueror and whatever other browsers I
>>>> have installed here.
>>>
>>> Just tried it in both Konq and SM. Nothing.
>>>
>>> If you can still open the page, could you check the source and see if
>>> you can divine what might be amiss?
>>>
>> Maybe it's something in:
>>
>> <script type="text/javascript" src="setcookie.js"></script>
>>
>> or
>>
>> <script type="text/javascript"
>> src="http://analytics.aweber.com/js/awt_analytics.js?id=6HSL"></script
>> >
>> >
>> It uses style sheets too, but that's pretty common practice.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> firefox v12 opened it with no hassle. Noscript blocking by default.
>

FF v12 with NoScript here on Mandriva 2011, Konqueror with the same
plugin, and SM all on the same OS, still no joy. Tried a few times
yesterday with all of them.

> It's a sales pitch. David is stalking the individual.

LOL. I'd guessed as much. Any URL he provides is one of his stalking
targets and he posts and 'recommends' them 'innocently' to entice people
to go there in the hope that they'll share his 'hinky' about the person/
site.

I wonder when (or even *if*) he's going to realise his sly attempts to
manipulate people are really feeble. :-)

> Has been for
> years. I think Bob Rankin was the author of the now dead tourbus email
> list. Very useful for those in IT.

And therefore most probably a 'good guy'.



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[Aardvark]

On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:17:03 +0100, David_B wrote:

> Dustin wrote:
>> David_B<David_B@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>> news:jpnsuh$a5o$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> http://askbobrankin.com/ABR-security...l=IHEtl&awt_m=
>>> IzInNXqQA8P6SL
>>
>> Fair questions. I had no trouble answering them. I especially enjoyed
>> this line: "Like it or not, you are ultimately responsible for the
>> security of your computer, and the safe-keeping of your personal
>> information."
>>
>> Sums your failures up pretty well, doesn't it?
>
> Better to have tried and failed than never to have tried at all, Dustin.
>

You keep telling yourself that if it gets you through the night, failure.

> It is precisely *because* of my failure back in 2005 that I've dug so
> deep.

If, by 'dug so deep' you mean 'accumulated reams of irrelevant,
disconnected and totally benign tiny details', then IAWTP, ****.

> Few people know, nor care, about the many traps set for them
> around the Internet. It's a very dangerous place!
>

To which you like to add, ****.

>>> Views welcomed on Bob Rankin's newest product!
>>
>> Are you jealous?
>
> I was riding Bob's Internet Tourbus back in the 1990's and very good it
> was too. http://<SNIP>.com/ I believe he dropped it so that he
> could concentrate on using his undoubted skills to make some money
> whilst still helping folk.
>

He told you this, did he?

> How do *you* use *your* skills to *help* folk, Dustin Cook?
>

How do *you* use *your* 'skills' to *help* folk, ****?

BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Perhaps you could make a follow-up post here?
>
> http://<SNIP>

And perhaps he could tell you to **** off, ****. Why should anyone even
wish to click on a completely unexplained link?



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"Tell me, truthfully, do *you* download music from The Pirate Bay for
your personal use and listening pleasure?"
Clever guy BD in post <gLidnTjP2tgGPy7SnZ2dnUVZ7qKdnZ2d@bt.com>

[Aardvark]

On Sat, 26 May 2012 06:25:01 +0000, Dustin wrote:

> David_B <David_B@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:jppsgn$j01$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> It is precisely *because* of my failure back in 2005 that I've dug so
>> deep. Few people know, nor care, about the many traps set for them
>> around the Internet. It's a very dangerous place!
>
> You aren't qualified to teach a turd, tho.
>

Not even his peers? Shame. :-)

>> How do *you* use *your* skills to *help* folk, Dustin Cook?
>
> Need more for your dossier on me eh?

LOL.



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"Tell me, truthfully, do *you* download music from The Pirate Bay for
your personal use and listening pleasure?"
Clever guy BD in post <gLidnTjP2tgGPy7SnZ2dnUVZ7qKdnZ2d@bt.com>

[Aardvark]

On Sat, 26 May 2012 07:34:54 +0100, David_B wrote:

> Dustin wrote:
>> David_B<David_B@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>> news:jppsgn$j01$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> It is precisely *because* of my failure back in 2005 that I've dug so
>>> deep. Few people know, nor care, about the many traps set for them
>>> around the Internet. It's a very dangerous place!
>>
>> You aren't qualified to teach a turd, tho.
>>
>>> How do *you* use *your* skills to *help* folk, Dustin Cook?
>>
>> Need more for your dossier on me eh?
>
> You were *never* a target - I told you before! (You didn't listen)
>

And your actions have always proved just the opposite, ****/

> Look here:
>
> https://<SNIP>
>
> 14000 posts by James Eshelman

Impressive.

> - can you find one in the past few years?
>

DYOFDW, ****.

> *Something* smells, Dustin!

Your nose is too close to your ass, ****.



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"Tell me, truthfully, do *you* download music from The Pirate Bay for
your personal use and listening pleasure?"
Clever guy BD in post <gLidnTjP2tgGPy7SnZ2dnUVZ7qKdnZ2d@bt.com>

[Aardvark]

On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:21:15 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote:

> Aardvark wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 May 2012 21:26:44 +0000, Aardvark wrote:
>>
>>>> Perhaps SM does pre-rendering in newsgroups?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Possibly. I might try it in Konqueror and whatever other browsers I
>>> have installed here.
>>
>> Just tried it in both Konq and SM. Nothing.
>>
>> If you can still open the page, could you check the source and see if
>> you can divine what might be amiss?
>>
> Maybe it's something in:
>
> <script type="text/javascript" src="setcookie.js"></script>
>

Possible but unlikely IMO, FTR. I enter sites with NoScript running, so
that shouldn't hold up loading.

> or
>
> <script type="text/javascript"
> src="http://analytics.aweber.com/js/awt_analytics.js?id=6HSL"></script>
>

NS would take care of that too, Shirley. I remember when aweber sold
autoresponders.

> It uses style sheets too, but that's pretty common practice.

Indeed. Somewhat of a mystery, thus far.



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your personal use and listening pleasure?"
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[FromTheRafters]

Dustin wrote:
> FromTheRafters<erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:jpp7lu$pgk$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> Aardvark wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 May 2012 21:26:44 +0000, Aardvark wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Perhaps SM does pre-rendering in newsgroups?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Possibly. I might try it in Konqueror and whatever other browsers I
>>>> have installed here.
>>>
>>> Just tried it in both Konq and SM. Nothing.
>>>
>>> If you can still open the page, could you check the source and see
>>> if you can divine what might be amiss?
>>>
>> Maybe it's something in:
>>
>> <script type="text/javascript" src="setcookie.js"></script>
>>
>> or
>>
>> <script type="text/javascript"
>> src="http://analytics.aweber.com/js/awt_analytics.js?id=6HSL"></script
>>>
>>
>> It uses style sheets too, but that's pretty common practice.
>>
>>
>>
>
> firefox v12 opened it with no hassle. Noscript blocking by default.

I'm not all that familiar with FF's capabilities. Do you know if, even
with Noscript blocking by default, any pre-fetching is still attempted?
After all - it still appears as a link in the HTML even though the
script itself won't be allowed to execute.

Most of the links (mostly graphics) are relative links, except the
analytics one.

[FromTheRafters]

Aardvark wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:21:15 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote:
>
>> Aardvark wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 May 2012 21:26:44 +0000, Aardvark wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Perhaps SM does pre-rendering in newsgroups?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Possibly. I might try it in Konqueror and whatever other browsers I
>>>> have installed here.
>>>
>>> Just tried it in both Konq and SM. Nothing.
>>>
>>> If you can still open the page, could you check the source and see if
>>> you can divine what might be amiss?
>>>
>> Maybe it's something in:
>>
>> <script type="text/javascript" src="setcookie.js"></script>
>>
>
> Possible but unlikely IMO, FTR. I enter sites with NoScript running, so
> that shouldn't hold up loading.
>
>> or
>>
>> <script type="text/javascript"
>> src="http://analytics.aweber.com/js/awt_analytics.js?id=6HSL"></script>
>>
>
> NS would take care of that too, Shirley. I remember when aweber sold
> autoresponders.
>
>> It uses style sheets too, but that's pretty common practice.
>
> Indeed. Somewhat of a mystery, thus far.
>
I run with scripting enabled, and sometimes those larger scripts (Fake
AV come-ons) take a long time to load and execute - selectors take even
longer.

[Aardvark]

On Sat, 26 May 2012 09:26:06 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote:

> Dustin wrote:
>> FromTheRafters<erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>> news:jpp7lu$pgk$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> Aardvark wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 25 May 2012 21:26:44 +0000, Aardvark wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps SM does pre-rendering in newsgroups?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Possibly. I might try it in Konqueror and whatever other browsers I
>>>>> have installed here.
>>>>
>>>> Just tried it in both Konq and SM. Nothing.
>>>>
>>>> If you can still open the page, could you check the source and see if
>>>> you can divine what might be amiss?
>>>>
>>> Maybe it's something in:
>>>
>>> <script type="text/javascript" src="setcookie.js"></script>
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> <script type="text/javascript"
>>> src="http://analytics.aweber.com/js/awt_analytics.js?id=6HSL"></script
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It uses style sheets too, but that's pretty common practice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> firefox v12 opened it with no hassle. Noscript blocking by default.
>
> I'm not all that familiar with FF's capabilities. Do you know if, even
> with Noscript blocking by default, any pre-fetching is still attempted?
> After all - it still appears as a link in the HTML even though the
> script itself won't be allowed to execute.
>

Wouldn't the simplest method of operation for something like NS be
running the source through NS first, then every time it encounters a pair
of <script> </script> tags either ignoring them or rewriting the source
without them, then sending the edited or reformed HTML to the rendering
engine? Either way, by the time the code actually gets to FF itself,
there are no script tags. Might that affect the source code subsequent to
the script introduction,causing some kind of lock-up in the loading?

> Most of the links (mostly graphics) are relative links, except the
> analytics one.

See above. If NS runs as I have described above, relativity or otherwise
of the script links is purely academic, isn't it? Unless, of course, some
of the script subsequent to one of the tags is dependent in some way on
the script?



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"Tell me, truthfully, do *you* download music from The Pirate Bay for
your personal use and listening pleasure?"
Clever guy BD in post <gLidnTjP2tgGPy7SnZ2dnUVZ7qKdnZ2d@bt.com>

[Aardvark]

On Sat, 26 May 2012 09:30:08 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote:

> Aardvark wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:21:15 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>
>>> Aardvark wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 25 May 2012 21:26:44 +0000, Aardvark wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps SM does pre-rendering in newsgroups?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Possibly. I might try it in Konqueror and whatever other browsers I
>>>>> have installed here.
>>>>
>>>> Just tried it in both Konq and SM. Nothing.
>>>>
>>>> If you can still open the page, could you check the source and see if
>>>> you can divine what might be amiss?
>>>>
>>> Maybe it's something in:
>>>
>>> <script type="text/javascript" src="setcookie.js"></script>
>>>
>>>
>> Possible but unlikely IMO, FTR. I enter sites with NoScript running, so
>> that shouldn't hold up loading.
>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> <script type="text/javascript"
>>> src="http://analytics.aweber.com/js/awt_analytics.js?id=6HSL"></
script>
>>>
>>>
>> NS would take care of that too, Shirley. I remember when aweber sold
>> autoresponders.
>>
>>> It uses style sheets too, but that's pretty common practice.
>>
>> Indeed. Somewhat of a mystery, thus far.
>>
> I run with scripting enabled, and sometimes those larger scripts (Fake
> AV come-ons) take a long time to load and execute - selectors take even
> longer.

The thirty or so seconds I allowed should be enough, don't you think? I
actually went off to the kitchen to make a cuppa tea after clicking the
link once. Still hadn't loaded when I got back.



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"Tell me, truthfully, do *you* download music from The Pirate Bay for
your personal use and listening pleasure?"
Clever guy BD in post <gLidnTjP2tgGPy7SnZ2dnUVZ7qKdnZ2d@bt.com>