My Computer Issues

[David S>]

Hi Folks,

For many years and through 2 laptops I have experienced instances where my computer mouse pointer seems to act uncontrollaby on its own. Clicking, scrolling, opening many other instances of open apllications, all at lightning speed.

I pull the power plug and reboot and everything is fine.

Lately (in the last few days)these instances have happened much more frequently.

I am with sympatico.ca and seem to have the same IP address from day to day.

I run/have spybot,Avira free is active,just purchased Malwarebytes PRO to run realtime protection, subscribed to iPrivacyTools and installed "IP Changer" software (although it seems to slow down ie8 considerably)

The only things that show up from scans are cookie trackers in Spybot.

I have a NAT Router behind DSL modem on a home network of 5 computers and 2 wireless tablets

It is as if someone knows my IP and unleashes this attack, usually as I am surfing, with some sort BOT that takes over.

Sometimes it won't happen for months, but just lately 3-4 times a day.

I swear it hit the undo button in excel (while I left the machine unattended) and I lost work twice yesterday -am I going crazy!!! That never happened before.

This "thing" has followed me as I said for many year and through 2 Dell laptops Win XP and Win7. The only consistent thing is ISP sympatico.ca.

Any reccomendations as to what I should do? I sure need some help. Nothing since Malwarbytes PRO installed, but that was just last night.

I even went wireless on my main machine and now turn antenna off when I leave the machine. During an attack I shut wireless off and it seemed to stop, but then again another time it continued.

HELP!!!

David S>

[David H. Lipman]

From: "David S>" <david.smith7592@gmail.com>

> Hi Folks,
>
> For many years and through 2 laptops I have experienced instances where my
> computer mouse
> pointer seems to act uncontrollaby on its own. Clicking, scrolling,
> opening many other
> instances of open apllications, all at lightning speed.
>
> I pull the power plug and reboot and everything is fine.
>
> Lately (in the last few days)these instances have happened much more
> frequently.
>
> I am with sympatico.ca and seem to have the same IP address from day to
> day.
>
> I run/have spybot,Avira free is active,just purchased Malwarebytes PRO to
> run realtime
> protection, subscribed to iPrivacyTools and installed "IP Changer"
> software (although it
> seems to slow down ie8 considerably)
>
> The only things that show up from scans are cookie trackers in Spybot.
>
> I have a NAT Router behind DSL modem on a home network of 5 computers and
> 2 wireless
> tablets
>
> It is as if someone knows my IP and unleashes this attack, usually as I am
> surfing, with
> some sort BOT that takes over.
>
> Sometimes it won't happen for months, but just lately 3-4 times a day.
>
> I swear it hit the undo button in excel (while I left the machine
> unattended) and I lost
> work twice yesterday -am I going crazy!!! That never happened before.
>
> This "thing" has followed me as I said for many year and through 2 Dell
> laptops Win XP and
> Win7. The only consistent thing is ISP sympatico.ca.
>
> Any reccomendations as to what I should do? I sure need some help.
> Nothing since
> Malwarbytes PRO installed, but that was just last night.
>
> I even went wireless on my main machine and now turn antenna off when I
> leave the machine.
> During an attack I shut wireless off and it seemed to stop, but then again
> another time it
> continued.
>
> HELP!!!
>

What kind of mouse are you using ?


--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[David S>]

On Saturday, April 28, 2012 1:56:18 PM UTC-4, David S&gt; wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> For many years and through 2 laptops I have experienced instances where my computer mouse pointer seems to act uncontrollaby on its own. Clicking, scrolling, opening many other instances of open apllications, all at lightning speed.
>
> I pull the power plug and reboot and everything is fine.
>
> Lately (in the last few days)these instances have happened much more frequently.
>
> I am with sympatico.ca and seem to have the same IP address from day to day.
>
> I run/have spybot,Avira free is active,just purchased Malwarebytes PRO to run realtime protection, subscribed to iPrivacyTools and installed "IP Changer" software (although it seems to slow down ie8 considerably)
>
> The only things that show up from scans are cookie trackers in Spybot.
>
> I have a NAT Router behind DSL modem on a home network of 5 computers and 2 wireless tablets
>
> It is as if someone knows my IP and unleashes this attack, usually as I am surfing, with some sort BOT that takes over.
>
> Sometimes it won't happen for months, but just lately 3-4 times a day.
>
> I swear it hit the undo button in excel (while I left the machine unattended) and I lost work twice yesterday -am I going crazy!!! That never happened before.
>
> This "thing" has followed me as I said for many year and through 2 Dell laptops Win XP and Win7. The only consistent thing is ISP sympatico.ca.
>
> Any reccomendations as to what I should do? I sure need some help. Nothing since Malwarbytes PRO installed, but that was just last night.
>
> I even went wireless on my main machine and now turn antenna off when I leave the machine. During an attack I shut wireless off and it seemed to stop, but then again another time it continued.
>
> HELP!!!
>
> David S>



On Saturday, April 28, 2012 1:56:18 PM UTC-4, David S&gt; wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> For many years and through 2 laptops I have experienced instances where my computer mouse pointer seems to act uncontrollaby on its own. Clicking, scrolling, opening many other instances of open apllications, all at lightning speed.
>
> I pull the power plug and reboot and everything is fine.
>
> Lately (in the last few days)these instances have happened much more frequently.
>
> I am with sympatico.ca and seem to have the same IP address from day to day.
>
> I run/have spybot,Avira free is active,just purchased Malwarebytes PRO to run realtime protection, subscribed to iPrivacyTools and installed "IP Changer" software (although it seems to slow down ie8 considerably)
>
> The only things that show up from scans are cookie trackers in Spybot.
>
> I have a NAT Router behind DSL modem on a home network of 5 computers and 2 wireless tablets
>
> It is as if someone knows my IP and unleashes this attack, usually as I am surfing, with some sort BOT that takes over.
>
> Sometimes it won't happen for months, but just lately 3-4 times a day.
>
> I swear it hit the undo button in excel (while I left the machine unattended) and I lost work twice yesterday -am I going crazy!!! That never happened before.
>
> This "thing" has followed me as I said for many year and through 2 Dell laptops Win XP and Win7. The only consistent thing is ISP sympatico.ca.
>
> Any reccomendations as to what I should do? I sure need some help. Nothing since Malwarbytes PRO installed, but that was just last night.
>
> I even went wireless on my main machine and now turn antenna off when I leave the machine. During an attack I shut wireless off and it seemed to stop, but then again another time it continued.
>
> HELP!!!
>
> David S>



On Saturday, April 28, 2012 1:56:18 PM UTC-4, David S&gt; wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> For many years and through 2 laptops I have experienced instances where my computer mouse pointer seems to act uncontrollaby on its own. Clicking, scrolling, opening many other instances of open apllications, all at lightning speed.
>
> I pull the power plug and reboot and everything is fine.
>
> Lately (in the last few days)these instances have happened much more frequently.
>
> I am with sympatico.ca and seem to have the same IP address from day to day.
>
> I run/have spybot,Avira free is active,just purchased Malwarebytes PRO to run realtime protection, subscribed to iPrivacyTools and installed "IP Changer" software (although it seems to slow down ie8 considerably)
>
> The only things that show up from scans are cookie trackers in Spybot.
>
> I have a NAT Router behind DSL modem on a home network of 5 computers and 2 wireless tablets
>
> It is as if someone knows my IP and unleashes this attack, usually as I am surfing, with some sort BOT that takes over.
>
> Sometimes it won't happen for months, but just lately 3-4 times a day.
>
> I swear it hit the undo button in excel (while I left the machine unattended) and I lost work twice yesterday -am I going crazy!!! That never happened before.
>
> This "thing" has followed me as I said for many year and through 2 Dell laptops Win XP and Win7. The only consistent thing is ISP sympatico.ca.
>
> Any reccomendations as to what I should do? I sure need some help. Nothing since Malwarbytes PRO installed, but that was just last night.
>
> I even went wireless on my main machine and now turn antenna off when I leave the machine. During an attack I shut wireless off and it seemed to stop, but then again another time it continued.
>
> HELP!!!
>
> David S>



On Saturday, April 28, 2012 1:56:18 PM UTC-4, David S&gt; wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> For many years and through 2 laptops I have experienced instances where my computer mouse pointer seems to act uncontrollaby on its own. Clicking, scrolling, opening many other instances of open apllications, all at lightning speed.
>
> I pull the power plug and reboot and everything is fine.
>
> Lately (in the last few days)these instances have happened much more frequently.
>
> I am with sympatico.ca and seem to have the same IP address from day to day.
>
> I run/have spybot,Avira free is active,just purchased Malwarebytes PRO to run realtime protection, subscribed to iPrivacyTools and installed "IP Changer" software (although it seems to slow down ie8 considerably)
>
> The only things that show up from scans are cookie trackers in Spybot.
>
> I have a NAT Router behind DSL modem on a home network of 5 computers and 2 wireless tablets
>
> It is as if someone knows my IP and unleashes this attack, usually as I am surfing, with some sort BOT that takes over.
>
> Sometimes it won't happen for months, but just lately 3-4 times a day.
>
> I swear it hit the undo button in excel (while I left the machine unattended) and I lost work twice yesterday -am I going crazy!!! That never happened before.
>
> This "thing" has followed me as I said for many year and through 2 Dell laptops Win XP and Win7. The only consistent thing is ISP sympatico.ca.
>
> Any reccomendations as to what I should do? I sure need some help. Nothing since Malwarbytes PRO installed, but that was just last night.
>
> I even went wireless on my main machine and now turn antenna off when I leave the machine. During an attack I shut wireless off and it seemed to stop, but then again another time it continued.
>
> HELP!!!
>
> David S>



On Saturday, April 28, 2012 1:56:18 PM UTC-4, David S&gt; wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> For many years and through 2 laptops I have experienced instances where my computer mouse pointer seems to act uncontrollaby on its own. Clicking, scrolling, opening many other instances of open apllications, all at lightning speed.
>
> I pull the power plug and reboot and everything is fine.
>
> Lately (in the last few days)these instances have happened much more frequently.
>
> I am with sympatico.ca and seem to have the same IP address from day to day.
>
> I run/have spybot,Avira free is active,just purchased Malwarebytes PRO to run realtime protection, subscribed to iPrivacyTools and installed "IP Changer" software (although it seems to slow down ie8 considerably)
>
> The only things that show up from scans are cookie trackers in Spybot.
>
> I have a NAT Router behind DSL modem on a home network of 5 computers and 2 wireless tablets
>
> It is as if someone knows my IP and unleashes this attack, usually as I am surfing, with some sort BOT that takes over.
>
> Sometimes it won't happen for months, but just lately 3-4 times a day.
>
> I swear it hit the undo button in excel (while I left the machine unattended) and I lost work twice yesterday -am I going crazy!!! That never happened before.
>
> This "thing" has followed me as I said for many year and through 2 Dell laptops Win XP and Win7. The only consistent thing is ISP sympatico.ca.
>
> Any reccomendations as to what I should do? I sure need some help. Nothing since Malwarbytes PRO installed, but that was just last night.
>
> I even went wireless on my main machine and now turn antenna off when I leave the machine. During an attack I shut wireless off and it seemed to stop, but then again another time it continued.
>
> HELP!!!
>
> David S>

The mouse has changed many times -right now a Logitech M515 (wireless), before that Microsoft 3500 wireless (used a battery every 3 weeks!!!), different USB mice -mainly Logitech. This issue has been going on for 5 years or so, many mice and 2 laptops.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "David S>" <david.smith7592@gmail.com>


>>
> The mouse has changed many times -right now a Logitech M515 (wireless),
> before that
> Microsoft 3500 wireless (used a battery every 3 weeks!!!), different USB
> mice -mainly
> Logitech. This issue has been going on for 5 years or so, many mice and 2
> laptops.

Please don't reply to yourself (especially with multiple copies) reply to
those who reply to you.

Oh, a Google Grouper - explaans all :-(

If you use a wireless mouse and someone who is near you using a wireless
mouse oin the same channel might affect your mouse.

Use a wired mouse and see how that goes.


--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[David S>]

On Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:22:27 PM UTC-4, David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "David S>" <david.smith7592@gmail.com>
>
>
> >>
> > The mouse has changed many times -right now a Logitech M515 (wireless),
> > before that
> > Microsoft 3500 wireless (used a battery every 3 weeks!!!), different USB
> > mice -mainly
> > Logitech. This issue has been going on for 5 years or so, many mice and 2
> > laptops.
>
> Please don't reply to yourself (especially with multiple copies) reply to
> those who reply to you.
>
> Oh, a Google Grouper - explaans all :-(
>
> If you use a wireless mouse and someone who is near you using a wireless
> mouse oin the same channel might affect your mouse.
>
> Use a wired mouse and see how that goes.
>
>
> --
> Dave
> Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
> http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

I am the only one with a wireless mouse -5-6 years this has benn going on -I am pretty sure with all the different mice and computers I have used it is not a mouse issue. (soory I used the wrong post reply button last time -I think).

[David H. Lipman]

From: "David S>" <david.smith7592@gmail.com>

> On Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:22:27 PM UTC-4, David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "David S>" <david.smith7592@gmail.com>
>>
>>> The mouse has changed many times -right now a Logitech M515 (wireless),
>>> before that
>>> Microsoft 3500 wireless (used a battery every 3 weeks!!!), different USB
>>> mice -mainly
>>> Logitech. This issue has been going on for 5 years or so, many mice and
>>> 2
>>> laptops.
>>
>> Please don't reply to yourself (especially with multiple copies) reply to
>> those who reply to you.
>>
>> Oh, a Google Grouper - explaans all :-(
>>
>> If you use a wireless mouse and someone who is near you using a wireless
>> mouse oin the same channel might affect your mouse.
>>
>> Use a wired mouse and see how that goes.
>>

>
> I am the only one with a wireless mouse -5-6 years this has benn going
> on -I am pretty
> sure with all the different mice and computers I have used it is not a
> mouse issue. (soory
> I used the wrong post reply button last time -I think).

I strongly doubt this is a malware issue. The fact that I believed you may
have a wireless mouse and you admitted you do confirms my suspicions. I
have seen this issue surface before. Admittedly the new Logitech wireless
mice are more resilient against this problem it must be eliminated from the
list of possibilities. Using a wired mouse will eliminate this as a
possibility.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[David S>]

On Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:15:21 PM UTC-4, David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "David S>" <david.smith7592@gmail.com>
>
> > On Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:22:27 PM UTC-4, David H. Lipman wrote:
> >> From: "David S>" <david.smith7592@gmail.com>
> >>
> >>> The mouse has changed many times -right now a Logitech M515 (wireless),
> >>> before that
> >>> Microsoft 3500 wireless (used a battery every 3 weeks!!!), different USB
> >>> mice -mainly
> >>> Logitech. This issue has been going on for 5 years or so, many mice and
> >>> 2
> >>> laptops.
> >>
> >> Please don't reply to yourself (especially with multiple copies) reply to
> >> those who reply to you.
> >>
> >> Oh, a Google Grouper - explaans all :-(
> >>
> >> If you use a wireless mouse and someone who is near you using a wireless
> >> mouse oin the same channel might affect your mouse.
> >>
> >> Use a wired mouse and see how that goes.
> >>
>
> >
> > I am the only one with a wireless mouse -5-6 years this has benn going
> > on -I am pretty
> > sure with all the different mice and computers I have used it is not a
> > mouse issue. (soory
> > I used the wrong post reply button last time -I think).
>
> I strongly doubt this is a malware issue. The fact that I believed you may
> have a wireless mouse and you admitted you do confirms my suspicions. I
> have seen this issue surface before. Admittedly the new Logitech wireless
> mice are more resilient against this problem it must be eliminated from the
> list of possibilities. Using a wired mouse will eliminate this as a
> possibility.
>
> --
> Dave
> Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
> http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Ok I will try a new USB wired mouse and let you know.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "David S>" <david.smith7592@gmail.com>


>> I strongly doubt this is a malware issue. The fact that I believed you
>> may
>> have a wireless mouse and you admitted you do confirms my suspicions. I
>> have seen this issue surface before. Admittedly the new Logitech
>> wireless
>> mice are more resilient against this problem it must be eliminated from
>> the
>> list of possibilities. Using a wired mouse will eliminate this as a
>> possibility.
>>

>
> Ok I will try a new USB wired mouse and let you know.

Grazie!

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[FromTheRafters]

David S> wrote:
> On Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:22:27 PM UTC-4, David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "David S>"<david.smith7592@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>> The mouse has changed many times -right now a Logitech M515 (wireless),
>>> before that
>>> Microsoft 3500 wireless (used a battery every 3 weeks!!!), different USB
>>> mice -mainly
>>> Logitech. This issue has been going on for 5 years or so, many mice and 2
>>> laptops.
>>
>> Please don't reply to yourself (especially with multiple copies) reply to
>> those who reply to you.
>>
>> Oh, a Google Grouper - explaans all :-(
>>
>> If you use a wireless mouse and someone who is near you using a wireless
>> mouse oin the same channel might affect your mouse.
>>
>> Use a wired mouse and see how that goes.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave
>> Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
>> http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
>
> I am the only one with a wireless mouse -5-6 years this has benn going on -I am pretty sure with all the different mice and computers I have used it is not a mouse issue. (soory I used the wrong post reply button last time -I think).

Hospital equipment can also cause interference, have you looked into
that angle - EMI?

Bottom line - your problem doesn't sound like a software issue
(malware/spyware). Try a wired mouse as David has suggested, the process
of elimination is a powerful troubleshooting tool.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic@nomail.afraid.org>

David S>> wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:22:27 PM UTC-4, David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> From: "David S>"<david.smith7592@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> The mouse has changed many times -right now a Logitech M515 (wireless),
>>>> before that
>>>> Microsoft 3500 wireless (used a battery every 3 weeks!!!), different
>>>> USB
>>>> mice -mainly
>>>> Logitech. This issue has been going on for 5 years or so, many mice and
>>>> 2
>>>> laptops.
>>>
>>> Please don't reply to yourself (especially with multiple copies) reply
>>> to
>>> those who reply to you.
>>>
>>> Oh, a Google Grouper - explaans all :-(
>>>
>>> If you use a wireless mouse and someone who is near you using a wireless
>>> mouse oin the same channel might affect your mouse.
>>>
>>> Use a wired mouse and see how that goes.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave
>>> Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
>>> http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
>>
>> I am the only one with a wireless mouse -5-6 years this has benn going
>> on -I am pretty
>> sure with all the different mice and computers I have used it is not a
>> mouse issue.
>> (soory I used the wrong post reply button last time -I think).
>
> Hospital equipment can also cause interference, have you looked into that
> angle - EMI?
>
> Bottom line - your problem doesn't sound like a software issue
> (malware/spyware). Try a wired mouse as David has suggested, the process
> of elimination is a powerful troubleshooting tool.

Yes, that's a good point that some other EMI/RFI equipment can interfere.
Albeit, it probably would jam the mouse transmission rather than cause
erratic behaviour. But, its possible.

I have seen radio-telephones (the type that plug into a base unit to keep
the hand-set charged and wirelessly connect back to the base unit) often
kill DSL connections. A clam-shell, ferrite, toroidal filter is good for
filtering out the RFI from the twisted pair POTS wiring. Just open the
torroid clam, wrap the telephone line around the core and the snap the
toroid closed. Since it is a common mode filter, it doesn't effect the
Quadrature Amplitude Modulation (QAM) used in DSL.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp