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    Big Brother Goes Live September 2013

    "We Are This Far From A Turnkey Totalitarian State" - Big Brother Goes Live
    September 2013



    George Orwell was right. He was just 30 years early.

    In its April cover story, Wired has an exclusive report on the NSA's Utah
    Data Center, which is a must read for anyone who believes any privacy is
    still a possibility in the United States: "A project of immense secrecy, it
    is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its
    purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world's
    communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the
    underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic
    networks.... Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in
    near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the
    complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches,
    as well as all sorts of personal data trails-parking receipts, travel
    itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital "pocket litter."... The
    heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September
    2013." In other words, in just over 1 year, virtually anything one
    communicates through any traceable medium, or any record of one's existence
    in the electronic medium, which these days is everything, will unofficially
    be property of the US government to deal with as it sees fit.

    The codename of the project: Stellar Wind.

    As Wired says, "there is no doubt that it has transformed itself into the
    largest, most covert, and potentially most intrusive intelligence agency
    ever created."

    And as former NSA operative William Binney who was a senior NSA
    crypto-mathematician, and is the basis for the Wired article (which we guess
    makes him merely the latest whistleblower to step up: is America suddenly
    experiencing an ethical revulsion?), and quit his job only after he realized
    that the NSA is now openly trampling the constitution, says as he holds his
    thumb and forefinger close together. "We are, like, that far from a turnkey
    totalitarian state."

    There was a time when Americans still cared about matters such as personal
    privacy. Luckily, they now have iGadgets to keep them distracted as they
    hand over their last pieces of individuality to the Tzar of conformity. And
    there are those who wonder just what the purpose of the NDAA is.

    In the meantime please continue to pretend that America is a democracy...

    Here are some of the highlights from the Wired article:

    The Utah Data Center in a nutshell, and the summary of the current status of
    the NSA's eavesdropping on US citizens.


    Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly
    named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A
    project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle
    assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher,
    analyze, and store vast swaths of the world's communications as they zap
    down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of
    international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2
    billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through
    its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all
    forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails,
    cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data
    trails-parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other
    digital "pocket litter." It is, in some measure, the realization of the
    "total information awareness" program created during the first term of the
    Bush administration-an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it
    caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans' privacy.


    But "this is more than just a data center," says one senior intelligence
    official who until recently was involved with the program. The mammoth
    Bluffdale center will have another important and far more secret role that
    until now has gone unrevealed. It is also critical, he says, for breaking
    codes. And code-breaking is crucial, because much of the data that the
    center will handle-financial information, stock transactions, business
    deals, foreign military and diplomatic secrets, legal documents,
    confidential personal communications-will be heavily encrypted. According to
    another top official also involved with the program, the NSA made an
    enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or
    break, unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only
    governments around the world but also many average computer users in the US.
    The upshot, according to this official: "Everybody's a target; everybody
    with communication is a target."


    In the process-and for the first time since Watergate and the other
    scandals of the Nixon administration-the NSA has turned its surveillance
    apparatus on the US and its citizens. It has established listening posts
    throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages
    and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. It
    has created a supercomputer of almost unimaginable speed to look for
    patterns and unscramble codes. Finally, the agency has begun building a
    place to store all the trillions of words and thoughts and whispers captured
    in its electronic net. And, of course, it's all being done in secret. To
    those on the inside, the old adage that NSA stands for Never Say Anything
    applies more than ever.



    ....Shrouded in secrecy:

    A short time later, Inglis arrived in Bluffdale at the site of the future
    data center, a flat, unpaved runway on a little-used part of Camp Williams,
    a National Guard training site. There, in a white tent set up for the
    occasion, Inglis joined Harvey Davis, the agency's associate director for
    installations and logistics, and Utah senator Orrin Hatch, along with a few
    generals and politicians in a surreal ceremony. Standing in an odd wooden
    sandbox and holding gold-painted shovels, they made awkward jabs at the sand
    and thus officially broke ground on what the local media had simply dubbed
    "the spy center." Hoping for some details on what was about to be built,
    reporters turned to one of the invited guests, Lane Beattie of the Salt Lake
    Chamber of Commerce. Did he have any idea of the purpose behind the new
    facility in his backyard? "Absolutely not," he said with a self-conscious
    half laugh. "Nor do I want them spying on me."


    Within days, the tent and sandbox and gold shovels would be gone and
    Inglis and the generals would be replaced by some 10,000 construction
    workers. "We've been asked not to talk about the project," Rob Moore,
    president of Big-D Construction, one of the three major contractors working
    on the project, told a local reporter. The plans for the center show an
    extensive security system: an elaborate $10 million antiterrorism protection
    program, including a fence designed to stop a 15,000-pound vehicle traveling
    50 miles per hour, closed-circuit cameras, a biometric identification
    system, a vehicle inspection facility, and a visitor-control center.


    Inside, the facility will consist of four 25,000-square-foot halls filled
    with servers, complete with raised floor space for cables and storage. In
    addition, there will be more than 900,000 square feet for technical support
    and administration. The entire site will be self-sustaining, with fuel tanks
    large enough to power the backup generators for three days in an emergency,
    water storage with the capability of pumping 1.7 million gallons of liquid
    per day, as well as a sewage system and massive air-conditioning system to
    keep all those servers cool. Electricity will come from the center's own
    substation built by Rocky Mountain Power to satisfy the 65-megawatt power
    demand. Such a mammoth amount of energy comes with a mammoth price tag-about
    $40 million a year, according to one estimate.

    Presenting the Yottabyte, aka 500 quintillion (500,000,000,000,000,000,000)
    pages of text:

    Given the facility's scale and the fact that a terabyte of data can now be
    stored on a flash drive the size of a man's pinky, the potential amount of
    information that could be housed in Bluffdale is truly staggering. But so is
    the exponential growth in the amount of intelligence data being produced
    every day by the eavesdropping sensors of the NSA and other intelligence
    agencies. As a result of this "expanding array of theater airborne and other
    sensor networks," as a 2007 Department of Defense report puts it, the
    Pentagon is attempting to expand its worldwide communications network, known
    as the Global Information Grid, to handle yottabytes (1024 bytes) of data.
    (A yottabyte is a septillion bytes-so large that no one has yet coined a
    term for the next higher magnitude.)


    It needs that capacity because, according to a recent report by Cisco,
    global Internet traffic will quadruple from 2010 to 2015, reaching 966
    exabytes per year. (A million exabytes equal a yottabyte.) In terms of
    scale, Eric Schmidt, Google's former CEO, once estimated that the total of
    all human knowledge created from the dawn of man to 2003 totaled 5 exabytes.
    And the data flow shows no sign of slowing. In 2011 more than 2 billion of
    the world's 6.9 billion people were connected to the Internet. By 2015,
    market research firm IDC estimates, there will be 2.7 billion users. Thus,
    the NSA's need for a 1-million-square-foot data storehouse. Should the
    agency ever fill the Utah center with a yottabyte of information, it would
    be equal to about 500 quintillion (500,000,000,000,000,000,000) pages of
    text.

    Summarizing the NSA's entire spy network:



    Before yottabytes of data from the deep web and elsewhere can begin piling
    up inside the servers of the NSA's new center, they must be collected. To
    better accomplish that, the agency has undergone the largest building boom
    in its history, including installing secret electronic monitoring rooms in
    major US telecom facilities. Controlled by the NSA, these highly secured
    spaces are where the agency taps into the US communications networks, a
    practice that came to light during the Bush years but was never acknowledged
    by the agency. The broad outlines of the so-called warrantless-wiretapping
    program have long been exposed-how the NSA secretly and illegally bypassed
    the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which was supposed to oversee
    and authorize highly targeted domestic eavesdropping; how the program
    allowed wholesale monitoring of millions of American phone calls and email.
    In the wake of the program's exposure, Congress passed the FISA Amendments
    Act of 2008, which largely made the practices legal. Telecoms that had
    agreed to participate in the illegal activity were granted immunity from
    prosecution and lawsuits. What wasn't revealed until now, however, was the
    enormity of this ongoing domestic spying program.

    Luckily, we now know, courtesy of yet another whistleblower, who has exposed
    the NSA's mindblowing efforts at pervasive Big Brotherness:

    For the first time, a former NSA official has gone on the record to
    describe the program, codenamed Stellar Wind, in detail. William Binney was
    a senior NSA crypto-mathematician largely responsible for automating the
    agency's worldwide eavesdropping network. A tall man with strands of black
    hair across the front of his scalp and dark, determined eyes behind
    thick-rimmed glasses, the 68-year-old spent nearly four decades breaking
    codes and finding new ways to channel billions of private phone calls and
    email messages from around the world into the NSA's bulging databases. As
    chief and one of the two cofounders of the agency's Signals Intelligence
    Automation Research Center, Binney and his team designed much of the
    infrastructure that's still likely used to intercept international and
    foreign communications.


    He explains that the agency could have installed its tapping gear at the
    nation's cable landing stations-the more than two dozen sites on the
    periphery of the US where fiber-optic cables come ashore. If it had taken
    that route, the NSA would have been able to limit its eavesdropping to just
    international communications, which at the time was all that was allowed
    under US law. Instead it chose to put the wiretapping rooms at key junction
    points throughout the country-large, windowless buildings known as
    switches-thus gaining access to not just international communications but
    also to most of the domestic traffic flowing through the US. The network of
    intercept stations goes far beyond the single room in an AT&T building in
    San Francisco exposed by a whistle-blower in 2006. "I think there's 10 to 20
    of them," Binney says. "That's not just San Francisco; they have them in the
    middle of the country and also on the East Coast."


    The eavesdropping on Americans doesn't stop at the telecom switches. To
    capture satellite communications in and out of the US, the agency also
    monitors AT&T's powerful earth stations, satellite receivers in locations
    that include Roaring Creek and Salt Creek. Tucked away on a back road in
    rural Catawissa, Pennsylvania, Roaring Creek's three 105-foot dishes handle
    much of the country's communications to and from Europe and the Middle East.
    And on an isolated stretch of land in remote Arbuckle, California, three
    similar dishes at the company's Salt Creek station service the Pacific Rim
    and Asia.

    In other words, the NSA has absolutely everyone covered.

    We now know all of this, courtesy of yet another person finally stepping up
    and exposing the truth:

    Binney left the NSA in late 2001, shortly after the agency launched its
    warrantless-wiretapping program. "They violated the Constitution setting it
    up," he says bluntly. "But they didn't care. They were going to do it
    anyway, and they were going to crucify anyone who stood in the way. When
    they started violating the Constitution, I couldn't stay." Binney says
    Stellar Wind was far larger than has been publicly disclosed and included
    not just eavesdropping on domestic phone calls but the inspection of
    domestic email. At the outset the program recorded 320 million calls a day,
    he says, which represented about 73 to 80 percent of the total volume of the
    agency's worldwide intercepts. The haul only grew from there. According to
    Binney-who has maintained close contact with agency employees until a few
    years ago-the taps in the secret rooms dotting the country are actually
    powered by highly sophisticated software programs that conduct "deep packet
    inspection," examining Internet traffic as it passes through the
    10-gigabit-per-second cables at the speed of light.


    The software, created by a company called Narus that's now part of Boeing,
    is controlled remotely from NSA headquarters at Fort Meade in Maryland and
    searches US sources for target addresses, locations, countries, and phone
    numbers, as well as watch-listed names, keywords, and phrases in email. Any
    communication that arouses suspicion, especially those to or from the
    million or so people on agency watch lists, are automatically copied or
    recorded and then transmitted to the NSA.

    Everyone is a target.

    The scope of surveillance expands from there, Binney says. Once a name is
    entered into the Narus database, all phone calls and other communications to
    and from that person are automatically routed to the NSA's recorders.
    "Anybody you want, route to a recorder," Binney says. "If your number's in
    there? Routed and gets recorded." He adds, "The Narus device allows you to
    take it all." And when Bluffdale is completed, whatever is collected will be
    routed there for storage and analysis.


    After he left the NSA, Binney suggested a system for monitoring people's
    communications according to how closely they are connected to an initial
    target. The further away from the target-say you're just an acquaintance of
    a friend of the target-the less the surveillance. But the agency rejected
    the idea, and, given the massive new storage facility in Utah, Binney
    suspects that it now simply collects everything. "The whole idea was, how do
    you manage 20 terabytes of intercept a minute?" he says. "The way we
    proposed was to distinguish between things you want and things you don't
    want." Instead, he adds, "they're storing everything they gather." And the
    agency is gathering as much as it can.


    Once the communications are intercepted and stored, the data-mining
    begins. "You can watch everybody all the time with data- mining," Binney
    says. Everything a person does becomes charted on a graph, "financial
    transactions or travel or anything," he says. Thus, as data like bookstore
    receipts, bank statements, and commuter toll records flow in, the NSA is
    able to paint a more and more detailed picture of someone's life.

    Can you hear me now? The NSA sure can:

    According to Binney, one of the deepest secrets of the Stellar Wind
    program-again, never confirmed until now-was that the NSA gained warrantless
    access to AT&T's vast trove of domestic and international billing records,
    detailed information about who called whom in the US and around the world.
    As of 2007, AT&T had more than 2.8 trillion records housed in a database at
    its Florham Park, New Jersey, complex.


    Verizon was also part of the program, Binney says, and that greatly
    expanded the volume of calls subject to the agency's domestic eavesdropping.
    "That multiplies the call rate by at least a factor of five," he says. "So
    you're over a billion and a half calls a day." (Spokespeople for Verizon and
    AT&T said their companies would not comment on matters of national
    security.)

    In fact, as you talk now, the NSA's computers are listening, recording it
    all, and looking for keywords.

    The NSA also has the ability to eavesdrop on phone calls directly and in
    real time. According to Adrienne J. Kinne, who worked both before and after
    9/11 as a voice interceptor at the NSA facility in Georgia, in the wake of
    the World Trade Center attacks "basically all rules were thrown out the
    window, and they would use any excuse to justify a waiver to spy on
    Americans." Even journalists calling home from overseas were included. "A
    lot of time you could tell they were calling their families," she says,
    "incredibly intimate, personal conversations." Kinne found the act of
    eavesdropping on innocent fellow citizens personally distressing. "It's
    almost like going through and finding somebody's diary," she says.

    There is a simple matter of encryption... Which won't be an issue for the
    NSA shortly, once the High Productivity Computing Systems project goes
    online.

    Anyone-from terrorists and weapons dealers to corporations, financial
    institutions, and ordinary email senders-can use it to seal their messages,
    plans, photos, and documents in hardened data shells. For years, one of the
    hardest shells has been the Advanced Encryption Standard, one of several
    algorithms used by much of the world to encrypt data. Available in three
    different strengths-128 bits, 192 bits, and 256 bits-it's incorporated in
    most commercial email programs and web browsers and is considered so strong
    that the NSA has even approved its use for top-secret US government
    communications. Most experts say that a so-called brute-force computer
    attack on the algorithm-trying one combination after another to unlock the
    encryption-would likely take longer than the age of the universe. For a
    128-bit cipher, the number of trial-and-error attempts would be 340
    undecillion (1036).


    Breaking into those complex mathematical shells like the AES is one of the
    key reasons for the construction going on in Bluffdale. That kind of
    cryptanalysis requires two major ingredients: super-fast computers to
    conduct brute-force attacks on encrypted messages and a massive number of
    those messages for the computers to analyze. The more messages from a given
    target, the more likely it is for the computers to detect telltale patterns,
    and Bluffdale will be able to hold a great many messages. "We questioned it
    one time," says another source, a senior intelligence manager who was also
    involved with the planning. "Why were we building this NSA facility? And,
    boy, they rolled out all the old guys-the crypto guys." According to the
    official, these experts told then-director of national intelligence Dennis
    Blair, "You've got to build this thing because we just don't have the
    capability of doing the code-breaking." It was a candid admission. In the
    long war between the code breakers and the code makers-the tens of thousands
    of cryptographers in the worldwide computer security industry-the code
    breakers were admitting defeat.


    So the agency had one major ingredient-a massive data storage
    facility-under way. Meanwhile, across the country in Tennessee, the
    government was working in utmost secrecy on the other vital element: the
    most powerful computer the world has ever known.


    The plan was launched in 2004 as a modern-day Manhattan Project. Dubbed
    the High Productivity Computing Systems program, its goal was to advance
    computer speed a thousandfold, creating a machine that could execute a
    quadrillion (1015) operations a second, known as a petaflop-the computer
    equivalent of breaking the land speed record. And as with the Manhattan
    Project, the venue chosen for the supercomputing program was the town of Oak
    Ridge in eastern Tennessee, a rural area where sharp ridges give way to low,
    scattered hills, and the southwestward-flowing Clinch River bends sharply to
    the southeast. About 25 miles from Knoxville, it is the "secret city" where
    uranium- 235 was extracted for the first atomic bomb. A sign near the exit
    read: what you see here, what you do here, what you hear here, when you
    leave here, let it stay here. Today, not far from where that sign stood, Oak
    Ridge is home to the Department of Energy's Oak Ridge National Laboratory,
    and it's engaged in a new secret war. But this time, instead of a bomb of
    almost unimaginable power, the weapon is a computer of almost unimaginable
    speed.


    At the DOE's unclassified center at Oak Ridge, work progressed at a
    furious pace, although it was a one-way street when it came to cooperation
    with the closemouthed people in Building 5300. Nevertheless, the
    unclassified team had its Cray XT4 supercomputer upgraded to a
    warehouse-sized XT5. Named Jaguar for its speed, it clocked in at 1.75
    petaflops, officially becoming the world's fastest computer in 2009.


    Meanwhile, over in Building 5300, the NSA succeeded in building an even
    faster supercomputer. "They made a big breakthrough," says another former
    senior intelligence official, who helped oversee the program. The NSA's
    machine was likely similar to the unclassified Jaguar, but it was much
    faster out of the gate, modified specifically for cryptanalysis and targeted
    against one or more specific algorithms, like the AES. In other words, they
    were moving from the research and development phase to actually attacking
    extremely difficult encryption systems. The code-breaking effort was up and
    running.


    The breakthrough was enormous, says the former official, and soon
    afterward the agency pulled the shade down tight on the project, even within
    the intelligence community and Congress. "Only the chairman and vice
    chairman and the two staff directors of each intelligence committee were
    told about it," he says. The reason? "They were thinking that this computing
    breakthrough was going to give them the ability to crack current public
    encryption."

    So kiss PGP goodbye. In fact kiss every aspect of your privacy goodbye.

    Yottabytes and exaflops, septillions and undecillions-the race for
    computing speed and data storage goes on. In his 1941 story "The Library of
    Babel," Jorge Luis Borges imagined a collection of information where the
    entire world's knowledge is stored but barely a single word is understood.
    In Bluffdale the NSA is constructing a library on a scale that even Borges
    might not have contemplated. And to hear the masters of the agency tell it,
    it's only a matter of time until every word is illuminated.

    As for the Constitution... What Constitution?

    Before he gave up and left the NSA, Binney tried to persuade officials to
    create a more targeted system that could be authorized by a court. At the
    time, the agency had 72 hours to obtain a legal warrant, and Binney devised
    a method to computerize the system. "I had proposed that we automate the
    process of requesting a warrant and automate approval so we could manage a
    couple of million intercepts a day, rather than subvert the whole process."
    But such a system would have required close coordination with the courts,
    and NSA officials weren't interested in that, Binney says. Instead they
    continued to haul in data on a grand scale. Asked how many communications-"transactions,"
    in NSA's lingo-the agency has intercepted since 9/11, Binney estimates the
    number at "between 15 and 20 trillion, the aggregate over 11 years."


    When Barack Obama took office, Binney hoped the new administration might
    be open to reforming the program to address his constitutional concerns. He
    and another former senior NSA analyst, J. Kirk Wiebe, tried to bring the
    idea of an automated warrant-approval system to the attention of the
    Department of Justice's inspector general. They were given the brush-off.
    "They said, oh, OK, we can't comment," Binney says.

    In conclusion, the NSA's own whistleblower summarizes it best.

    Sitting in a restaurant not far from NSA headquarters, the place where he
    spent nearly 40 years of his life, Binney held his thumb and forefinger
    close together. "We are, like, that far from a turnkey totalitarian state,"
    he says.

    .... And nobody cares.


  2. #2
    Eagle Guest

    Re: Big Brother Goes Live September 2013

    Bullwinkle explained :
    > "A project of immense secrecy, it
    > is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its
    > purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the
    > world's
    > communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the
    > underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic
    > networks.... Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in
    > near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the
    > complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches,
    > as well as all sorts of personal data trails-parking receipts, travel
    > itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital "pocket litter."...


    Dayam.
    Nowhere to run to,
    nowhere to hide.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrSgpusp7PA

    --
    Eagle
    Friendship is like peeing your pants, everyone can see it, but only you
    can feel the true warmth.



  3. #3
    SeaNymph Guest

    Re: Big Brother Goes Live September 2013

    On 3/18/2012 6:32 AM, Bullwinkle wrote:
    > "We Are This Far From A Turnkey Totalitarian State" - Big Brother Goes Live
    > September 2013
    >
    >
    >
    > George Orwell was right. He was just 30 years early.
    >
    > In its April cover story, Wired has an exclusive report on the NSA's Utah
    > Data Center, which is a must read for anyone who believes any privacy is
    > still a possibility in the United States: "A project of immense secrecy, it
    > is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its
    > purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world's
    > communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the
    > underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic
    > networks.... Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in
    > near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the
    > complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches,
    > as well as all sorts of personal data trails-parking receipts, travel
    > itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital "pocket litter."... The
    > heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September
    > 2013." In other words, in just over 1 year, virtually anything one
    > communicates through any traceable medium, or any record of one's existence
    > in the electronic medium, which these days is everything, will unofficially
    > be property of the US government to deal with as it sees fit.
    >
    > The codename of the project: Stellar Wind.
    >


    It's not that nobody cares, it's that not many people even realize this
    is going on. The secrecy part has been well kept, until recently. I
    had not heard of this until yesterday when my son was complaining about
    it. Read it and weep.

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...under-way.html

    http://rt.com/news/utah-data-center-spy-789/



  4. #4
    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: Big Brother Goes Live September 2013

    SeaNymph wrote:
    > On 3/18/2012 6:32 AM, Bullwinkle wrote:
    >> "We Are This Far From A Turnkey Totalitarian State" - Big Brother Goes
    >> Live
    >> September 2013
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> George Orwell was right. He was just 30 years early.
    >>
    >> In its April cover story, Wired has an exclusive report on the NSA's Utah
    >> Data Center, which is a must read for anyone who believes any privacy is
    >> still a possibility in the United States: "A project of immense
    >> secrecy, it
    >> is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade.
    >> Its
    >> purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the
    >> world's
    >> communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the
    >> underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic
    >> networks.... Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in
    >> near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication,
    >> including the
    >> complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google
    >> searches,
    >> as well as all sorts of personal data trails-parking receipts, travel
    >> itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital "pocket
    >> litter."... The
    >> heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September
    >> 2013." In other words, in just over 1 year, virtually anything one
    >> communicates through any traceable medium, or any record of one's
    >> existence
    >> in the electronic medium, which these days is everything, will
    >> unofficially
    >> be property of the US government to deal with as it sees fit.
    >>
    >> The codename of the project: Stellar Wind.
    >>

    >
    > It's not that nobody cares, it's that not many people even realize this
    > is going on. The secrecy part has been well kept, until recently. I had
    > not heard of this until yesterday when my son was complaining about it.
    > Read it and weep.
    >
    > http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...under-way.html
    >
    >
    > http://rt.com/news/utah-data-center-spy-789/



    Why don't you discuss any of this 'stuff' with your husband - who *you*
    have described as a 'deep software engineer'?

    Maybe he is *part* of it! ;-)


    --
    Dave - "It is much better to be hated for what you are, than to be loved
    for what you definitely are not." "Do unto others as you would have them
    do unto you."

  5. #5
    Aardvark Guest

    Re: Big Brother Goes Live September 2013

    On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 14:33:31 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:

    > SeaNymph wrote:
    >> On 3/18/2012 6:32 AM, Bullwinkle wrote:
    >>> "We Are This Far From A Turnkey Totalitarian State" - Big Brother Goes
    >>> Live September 2013
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> George Orwell was right. He was just 30 years early.
    >>>
    >>> In its April cover story, Wired has an exclusive report on the NSA's
    >>> Utah Data Center, which is a must read for anyone who believes any
    >>> privacy is still a possibility in the United States: "A project of
    >>> immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled
    >>> over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze,
    >>> and store vast swaths of the world's communications as they zap down
    >>> from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of
    >>> international, foreign, and domestic networks.... Flowing through its
    >>> servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be
    >>> all forms of communication,
    >>> including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls,
    >>> and Google searches,
    >>> as well as all sorts of personal data trails-parking receipts, travel
    >>> itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital "pocket
    >>> litter."... The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and
    >>> running in September 2013." In other words, in just over 1 year,
    >>> virtually anything one communicates through any traceable medium, or
    >>> any record of one's existence in the electronic medium, which these
    >>> days is everything, will unofficially be property of the US government
    >>> to deal with as it sees fit.
    >>>
    >>> The codename of the project: Stellar Wind.
    >>>
    >>>

    >> It's not that nobody cares, it's that not many people even realize this
    >> is going on. The secrecy part has been well kept, until recently. I had
    >> not heard of this until yesterday when my son was complaining about it.
    >> Read it and weep.
    >>
    >> http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...billion-cyber-

    security-center-under-way.html
    >>
    >>
    >> http://rt.com/news/utah-data-center-spy-789/

    >
    >
    > Why don't you discuss any of this 'stuff' with your husband - who *you*
    > have described as a 'deep software engineer'?
    >
    > Maybe he is *part* of it! ;-)


    Slimy ****.



    --
    "Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved
    in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom
    the bell tolls; it tolls for thee".
    -John Donne (1572-1631)

  6. #6
    Eagle Guest

    Re: Big Brother Goes Live September 2013

    on 3/18/2012, Aardvark supposed :
    > On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 14:33:31 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:
    >
    >> SeaNymph wrote:
    >>> On 3/18/2012 6:32 AM, Bullwinkle wrote:
    >>>> "We Are This Far From A Turnkey Totalitarian State" - Big Brother Goes
    >>>> Live September 2013
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> George Orwell was right. He was just 30 years early.
    >>>>
    >>>> In its April cover story, Wired has an exclusive report on the NSA's
    >>>> Utah Data Center, which is a must read for anyone who believes any
    >>>> privacy is still a possibility in the United States: "A project of
    >>>> immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled
    >>>> over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze,
    >>>> and store vast swaths of the world's communications as they zap down
    >>>> from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of
    >>>> international, foreign, and domestic networks.... Flowing through its
    >>>> servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be
    >>>> all forms of communication,
    >>>> including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls,
    >>>> and Google searches,
    >>>> as well as all sorts of personal data trails-parking receipts, travel
    >>>> itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital "pocket
    >>>> litter."... The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and
    >>>> running in September 2013." In other words, in just over 1 year,
    >>>> virtually anything one communicates through any traceable medium, or
    >>>> any record of one's existence in the electronic medium, which these
    >>>> days is everything, will unofficially be property of the US government
    >>>> to deal with as it sees fit.
    >>>>
    >>>> The codename of the project: Stellar Wind.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> It's not that nobody cares, it's that not many people even realize this
    >>> is going on. The secrecy part has been well kept, until recently. I had
    >>> not heard of this until yesterday when my son was complaining about it.
    >>> Read it and weep.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...billion-cyber-
    >>> security-center-under-way.html
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> http://rt.com/news/utah-data-center-spy-789/

    >>
    >>
    >> Why don't you discuss any of this 'stuff' with your husband - who *you*
    >> have described as a 'deep software engineer'?
    >>
    >> Maybe he is *part* of it! ;-)

    >
    > Slimy ****.


    Just one day I would like to not read this kind of reply to Dave. :/

    --
    Eagle
    Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you’ll ever
    regret.



  7. #7
    OldGringo38 Guest

    Re: Big Brother Goes Live September 2013

    On 3/18/2012 8:33 AM, SeaNymph wrote:
    > On 3/18/2012 6:32 AM, Bullwinkle wrote:
    >> "We Are This Far From A Turnkey Totalitarian State" - Big Brother Goes
    >> Live
    >> September 2013
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> George Orwell was right. He was just 30 years early.
    >>
    >> In its April cover story, Wired has an exclusive report on the NSA's Utah
    >> Data Center, which is a must read for anyone who believes any privacy is
    >> still a possibility in the United States: "A project of immense
    >> secrecy, it
    >> is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade.
    >> Its
    >> purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the
    >> world's
    >> communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the
    >> underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic
    >> networks.... Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in
    >> near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication,
    >> including the
    >> complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google
    >> searches,
    >> as well as all sorts of personal data trails-parking receipts, travel
    >> itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital "pocket
    >> litter."... The
    >> heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September
    >> 2013." In other words, in just over 1 year, virtually anything one
    >> communicates through any traceable medium, or any record of one's
    >> existence
    >> in the electronic medium, which these days is everything, will
    >> unofficially
    >> be property of the US government to deal with as it sees fit.
    >>
    >> The codename of the project: Stellar Wind.
    >>

    >
    > It's not that nobody cares, it's that not many people even realize this
    > is going on. The secrecy part has been well kept, until recently. I had
    > not heard of this until yesterday when my son was complaining about it.
    > Read it and weep.
    >
    > http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...under-way.html
    >
    >
    > http://rt.com/news/utah-data-center-spy-789/
    >
    >


    Well the direct Link to Moscow was impressive. ROTFLMAO
    It's about time we got something like that, if your worried about them
    monitoring ***** fights between you and Jenn, Forget it.


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    It Has An Expiration Date
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