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    VanguardLH Guest

    Re: eBay Link

    Retired wrote:

    > This is probably off topic but it causes me to smell a rat anyway.
    > New HP computers come with an eBay link on the desktop which properties
    > are ""C:\Program Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\Shared\WizLink.exe"
    > http://redirect.hp.com/svs/rdr?TYPE=4
    > &tp=dticon&s=ebay&pf=cnnb&locale=en_us&bd=all&c=11 4"
    > The link takes you to the same place as http://www.ebay.com would except
    > that in the address bar you see "/?clk_rvr_id=288993127703" appended.
    > What is the purpose of the garbage link? Is it so eBay can see that HP
    > directed someone to their site? Do they give HP a reward for that?
    > What the hell is "Wizlink" anyway? Never mind. I just looked it up.
    > "This application appears to have been factory loaded by HP. It is linked
    > to bloatware such as the Ebay shortcut on my desktop.
    > I realize wizLine, Ebay, and the rest are paying HP to do this, however, it
    > would be nice if HP would remember that we, their CUSTOMERS, are paying
    > them also."


    Why do you think HP is having anything to do with eBay? To collect
    click-through revenue. Well, how do you think eBay knows that you are
    coming there from a redirect from HP so they pay HP for that redirect?

    Just delete the desktop shortcut to eBay. Problem over.

    You are "paying" HP for a license to any software they chose to put on
    your host. You don't have to use any software they included. You could
    flatten and install your own instance of the OS. What you paid for is
    what HP decided to compose for their image on the model they sold you.
    You thought that was the only bloatware that HP put in their image?

    You didn't buy a Microsoft-blank OEM image on your host. You bought
    HP's OEM image and they can put whatever they want in it. So can Acer,
    Toshiba, eMachine, some computer shop down the street, or whomever you
    PAID to get *pre-built* hardware that included *pre-installed* software.
    You paid them to build it for you but you get what they chose to build.
    Now if you really want control over what software is on your host, one
    way is to do a fresh install of what YOU want or pay someone even more
    to generate a custom image per your specifications.

    When you buy a car, THEY chose where the cigarette lighter was located,
    not you, despite you bought THEIR car. You bought THEIR image. You can
    tweak it or discard it and build your own image.

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    Retired Guest

    Re: eBay Link

    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote in news:jauoaf$4fn$1@news.albasani.net:

    > Retired wrote:
    >
    >> This is probably off topic but it causes me to smell a rat anyway.
    >> New HP computers come with an eBay link on the desktop which
    >> properties are ""C:\Program Files
    >> (x86)\Hewlett-Packard\Shared\WizLink.exe"
    >> http://redirect.hp.com/svs/rdr?TYPE=4
    >> &tp=dticon&s=ebay&pf=cnnb&locale=en_us&bd=all&c=11 4" The link takes
    >> you to the same place as http://www.ebay.com would except that in the
    >> address bar you see "/?clk_rvr_id=288993127703" appended. What is the
    >> purpose of the garbage link? Is it so eBay can see that HP directed
    >> someone to their site? Do they give HP a reward for that? What the
    >> hell is "Wizlink" anyway? Never mind. I just looked it up. "This
    >> application appears to have been factory loaded by HP. It is linked
    >> to bloatware such as the Ebay shortcut on my desktop.
    >> I realize wizLine, Ebay, and the rest are paying HP to do this,
    >> however, it would be nice if HP would remember that we, their
    >> CUSTOMERS, are paying them also."

    >
    > Why do you think HP is having anything to do with eBay? To collect
    > click-through revenue. Well, how do you think eBay knows that you are
    > coming there from a redirect from HP so they pay HP for that redirect?
    >
    > Just delete the desktop shortcut to eBay. Problem over.
    >
    > You are "paying" HP for a license to any software they chose to put on
    > your host. You don't have to use any software they included. You
    > could flatten and install your own instance of the OS. What you paid
    > for is what HP decided to compose for their image on the model they
    > sold you. You thought that was the only bloatware that HP put in their
    > image?
    >
    > You didn't buy a Microsoft-blank OEM image on your host. You bought
    > HP's OEM image and they can put whatever they want in it. So can
    > Acer, Toshiba, eMachine, some computer shop down the street, or
    > whomever you PAID to get *pre-built* hardware that included
    > *pre-installed* software. You paid them to build it for you but you
    > get what they chose to build. Now if you really want control over what
    > software is on your host, one way is to do a fresh install of what YOU
    > want or pay someone even more to generate a custom image per your
    > specifications.
    >
    > When you buy a car, THEY chose where the cigarette lighter was
    > located, not you, despite you bought THEIR car. You bought THEIR
    > image. You can tweak it or discard it and build your own image.


    Whoa! I didn't buy the damn thing. I've built every computer I've owned
    for years. Other people buy them and bring them to me to get *rid* of all
    that crap. Including whatever kind of antivirus they're in bed with at
    the time. And usually a new computer is behind about 50 updates, if not a
    whole service pack.

    Everything you said is right, of course, except the "you" part... :-)

    --
    -- "some computer shop down the street" --

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