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  1. #61
    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    SeaNymph wrote:
    > "FromTheRafters"<erratic.howard@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:j71v9v$uj5$1@dont-email.me...
    >> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
    >> news:j70sbn$p8t$1@dont-email.me...
    >>
    >> [...]
    >>
    >>> Some folk here have the technical ability to test my theory. One day,
    >>> maybe someone will. I'd love nothing more than to be proved wrong,
    >>> believe me.

    >>
    >> It does kinda-sorta relate to spyware and privacy, so I will say this.
    >>
    >> You are correct, someone without knowledge of what they are
    >> doing *will* find a way to ****-up their computer. They may very
    >> well not ever notice that it is ****ed-up.
    >>
    >> It just a fact of cyber-life and you should get over it.
    >>
    >> There is a recent spate of trojans being offered up as an admin
    >> toolkit of some sort on some tech 'forums'. Those that *aren't* so
    >> clueless have issued warnings to readers and further posts blocked
    >> if possible. This is how it works in open 'forums', as for those not so
    >> open I guess you just have to decide for *yourself* who to trust and
    >> stop trying to decide for *others*.
    >>
    >> IMO much of the stuff of your posts will likely drive the clueless away
    >> from the help that they really need, rather than help them as seems to
    >> be your intent.
    >>
    >> I trust many of those that you distrust, and no amount of hinky sauce
    >> slathered on will mask that flavor. I am completely unfamiliar with the
    >> 'forums' that you mention, and intend to stay that way.

    >
    > Totally agree. Truth is, no one can make anyone else take the time to know
    > even the basics of operating a computer. It's not anyone's issue but the
    > person using the computer.



    So - who taught *you* how to operate a computer, SN?

  2. #62
    SeaNymph Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild


    "~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
    news:j725hh$1gj$5@dont-email.me...
    > SeaNymph wrote:
    >> "FromTheRafters"<erratic.howard@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:j71v9v$uj5$1@dont-email.me...
    >>> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
    >>> news:j70sbn$p8t$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>
    >>> [...]
    >>>
    >>>> Some folk here have the technical ability to test my theory. One day,
    >>>> maybe someone will. I'd love nothing more than to be proved wrong,
    >>>> believe me.
    >>>
    >>> It does kinda-sorta relate to spyware and privacy, so I will say this.
    >>>
    >>> You are correct, someone without knowledge of what they are
    >>> doing *will* find a way to ****-up their computer. They may very
    >>> well not ever notice that it is ****ed-up.
    >>>
    >>> It just a fact of cyber-life and you should get over it.
    >>>
    >>> There is a recent spate of trojans being offered up as an admin
    >>> toolkit of some sort on some tech 'forums'. Those that *aren't* so
    >>> clueless have issued warnings to readers and further posts blocked
    >>> if possible. This is how it works in open 'forums', as for those not so
    >>> open I guess you just have to decide for *yourself* who to trust and
    >>> stop trying to decide for *others*.
    >>>
    >>> IMO much of the stuff of your posts will likely drive the clueless away
    >>> from the help that they really need, rather than help them as seems to
    >>> be your intent.
    >>>
    >>> I trust many of those that you distrust, and no amount of hinky sauce
    >>> slathered on will mask that flavor. I am completely unfamiliar with the
    >>> 'forums' that you mention, and intend to stay that way.

    >>
    >> Totally agree. Truth is, no one can make anyone else take the time to
    >> know
    >> even the basics of operating a computer. It's not anyone's issue but the
    >> person using the computer.

    >
    >
    > So - who taught *you* how to operate a computer, SN?


    Some I learned on my own. Some I learned from those with infinitely more
    knowledge and experience than you could ever hope to acquire.



  3. #63
    SeaNymph Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild


    "Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know> wrote in message
    news:9j0lq.613$LK.264@newsfe27.ams2...
    > On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:47:58 -0500, Gramsterdam wrote:
    >
    >> ~BD~ wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Some folk here have the technical ability to test my theory. One day,
    >>>maybe someone will. I'd love nothing more than to be proved wrong,
    >>>believe me.

    >>
    >> So what do you propose to do in order test your theory? Am I supposed
    >> to logon as a dimwit with a question and see if they push malware
    >> scripts on me?

    >
    > You're not actually toying with the idea of pandering to BD's paranoia
    > are you, mate?


    Why doesn't BD just do his own dirty work? Oh wait, there are too many
    reasons to enumerate. LOL



  4. #64
    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    SeaNymph wrote:
    > "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
    > news:j725hh$1gj$5@dont-email.me...
    >> SeaNymph wrote:
    >>> "FromTheRafters"<erratic.howard@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:j71v9v$uj5$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
    >>>> news:j70sbn$p8t$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>
    >>>> [...]
    >>>>
    >>>>> Some folk here have the technical ability to test my theory. One day,
    >>>>> maybe someone will. I'd love nothing more than to be proved wrong,
    >>>>> believe me.
    >>>>
    >>>> It does kinda-sorta relate to spyware and privacy, so I will say this.
    >>>>
    >>>> You are correct, someone without knowledge of what they are
    >>>> doing *will* find a way to ****-up their computer. They may very
    >>>> well not ever notice that it is ****ed-up.
    >>>>
    >>>> It just a fact of cyber-life and you should get over it.
    >>>>
    >>>> There is a recent spate of trojans being offered up as an admin
    >>>> toolkit of some sort on some tech 'forums'. Those that *aren't* so
    >>>> clueless have issued warnings to readers and further posts blocked
    >>>> if possible. This is how it works in open 'forums', as for those not so
    >>>> open I guess you just have to decide for *yourself* who to trust and
    >>>> stop trying to decide for *others*.
    >>>>
    >>>> IMO much of the stuff of your posts will likely drive the clueless away
    >>>> from the help that they really need, rather than help them as seems to
    >>>> be your intent.
    >>>>
    >>>> I trust many of those that you distrust, and no amount of hinky sauce
    >>>> slathered on will mask that flavor. I am completely unfamiliar with the
    >>>> 'forums' that you mention, and intend to stay that way.
    >>>
    >>> Totally agree. Truth is, no one can make anyone else take the time to
    >>> know
    >>> even the basics of operating a computer. It's not anyone's issue but the
    >>> person using the computer.

    >>
    >>
    >> So - who taught *you* how to operate a computer, SN?

    >
    > Some I learned on my own. Some I learned from those with infinitely more
    > knowledge and experience than you could ever hope to acquire.
    >
    >


    Wow! That's a real giveaway! :-)

  5. #65
    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    Gramsterdam wrote:
    > ~BD~ wrote:
    >
    >> Gramsterdam wrote:
    >>> ~BD~ wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Some folk here have the technical ability to test my theory. One day,
    >>>> maybe someone will. I'd love nothing more than to be proved wrong,
    >>>> believe me.
    >>>
    >>> So what do you propose to do in order test your theory? Am I supposed
    >>> to logon as a dimwit with a question and see if they push malware
    >>> scripts on me?
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >> *YES*! :-)

    >
    >
    > Lol.... It might be fun, but someone will spot me unless I *really*
    > cover my ass, which is too much trouble. I'd have to use a proxy and
    > change my writing style or they will know I'm screwing around. Its my
    > understanding that some ppl. -> here<- are on that forum as well. I'm
    > not a very good liar. (or am I?.....)<--- Put some hinky sauce on
    > that! ;-)


    Graham

    You have read here, haven't you?

    http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index...ic=10751&st=20

  6. #66
    Aardvark Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:34:57 -0500, SeaNymph wrote:

    > "Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know> wrote in message
    > news:9j0lq.613$LK.264@newsfe27.ams2...
    >> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:47:58 -0500, Gramsterdam wrote:
    >>
    >>> ~BD~ wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Some folk here have the technical ability to test my theory. One day,
    >>>>maybe someone will. I'd love nothing more than to be proved wrong,
    >>>>believe me.
    >>>
    >>> So what do you propose to do in order test your theory? Am I supposed
    >>> to logon as a dimwit with a question and see if they push malware
    >>> scripts on me?

    >>
    >> You're not actually toying with the idea of pandering to BD's paranoia
    >> are you, mate?

    >
    > Why doesn't BD just do his own dirty work? Oh wait, there are too many
    > reasons to enumerate. LOL


    Chief among them being a total inability to retain factual information in
    the form it went into his head.



    --
    America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without
    civilization in between. - Oscar Wilde

  7. #67
    Aardvark Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:36:19 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:

    > SeaNymph wrote:
    >> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
    >> news:j725hh$1gj$5@dont-email.me...
    >>> SeaNymph wrote:
    >>>> "FromTheRafters"<erratic.howard@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:j71v9v$uj5$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:j70sbn$p8t$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> [...]
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Some folk here have the technical ability to test my theory. One
    >>>>>> day,
    >>>>>> maybe someone will. I'd love nothing more than to be proved wrong,
    >>>>>> believe me.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It does kinda-sorta relate to spyware and privacy, so I will say
    >>>>> this.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You are correct, someone without knowledge of what they are doing
    >>>>> *will* find a way to ****-up their computer. They may very well not
    >>>>> ever notice that it is ****ed-up.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It just a fact of cyber-life and you should get over it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> There is a recent spate of trojans being offered up as an admin
    >>>>> toolkit of some sort on some tech 'forums'. Those that *aren't* so
    >>>>> clueless have issued warnings to readers and further posts blocked
    >>>>> if possible. This is how it works in open 'forums', as for those not
    >>>>> so open I guess you just have to decide for *yourself* who to trust
    >>>>> and stop trying to decide for *others*.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> IMO much of the stuff of your posts will likely drive the clueless
    >>>>> away from the help that they really need, rather than help them as
    >>>>> seems to be your intent.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I trust many of those that you distrust, and no amount of hinky
    >>>>> sauce slathered on will mask that flavor. I am completely unfamiliar
    >>>>> with the 'forums' that you mention, and intend to stay that way.
    >>>>
    >>>> Totally agree. Truth is, no one can make anyone else take the time
    >>>> to know even the basics of operating a computer. It's not anyone's
    >>>> issue but the person using the computer.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> So - who taught *you* how to operate a computer, SN?

    >>
    >> Some I learned on my own. Some I learned from those with infinitely
    >> more knowledge and experience than you could ever hope to acquire.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > Wow! That's a real giveaway! :-)


    WTF, ****????? What does it 'give away'?



    --
    America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without
    civilization in between. - Oscar Wilde

  8. #68
    Dustin Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:j71q0u$o9v$1@dont-email.me:

    > *He has lied*.


    YOU have lied. I was finally able to extract your corrupted jpeg file from
    my pegasus inbox. ****ing jerk. Did you really think crashing my email
    client was going to amuse me? You didn't do any real harm either. More than
    one way to skin a cat.

    I checked out the jpeg you sent me. Allow me to put your and tony's notions
    to rest. Malwarebytes *KNEW* prior to hiring me of my past. I didn't hide
    who I was from anybody since releasing BugHunter, which is what got me the
    job. Lets see here.. Oh yea, I didn't have questionable ethics or an
    objectionable personality. I got along fine with my peers.

    You idiots want to keep guessing?

    According to this screenshot you sent me, Tony like you speculates I parted
    ways with malwarebytes over my past. Fact is, I didn't. Fact is, YOU
    ****ING LIED when you said Tony confirmed malwarebytes fired me.

    > That's why *you* are here, Dustin.


    Uhh, David, I've got you red handed, with evidence you sent me of the
    converation you had with Tony. You both speculated about me, but that's it.
    Tony isn't an insider as you led people to believe. I'll be having a
    conversation myself with Tony; as I now find him to be a bit two faced, and
    I really don't like that.

    I do believe this jpeg is showing me a real conversation between the two of
    you. It doesn't match his response to my inquiry; and no wonder, he's bad
    mouthing me right with you.

    > You *could* help put this to bed.


    Let's get this discussion resolved before we tackle anything else. Tony and
    yourself have some explaining to do.




    --
    I am a sinner
    Hold my prayers upto the sun
    I am a sinner
    Heaven's closed for what I've done.

  9. #69
    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    Dustin wrote:
    > ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:j71q0u$o9v$1@dont-email.me:
    >
    >> *He has lied*.

    >
    > YOU have lied. I was finally able to extract your corrupted jpeg file from
    > my pegasus inbox. ****ing jerk. Did you really think crashing my email
    > client was going to amuse me? You didn't do any real harm either. More than
    > one way to skin a cat.
    >
    > I checked out the jpeg you sent me. Allow me to put your and tony's notions
    > to rest. Malwarebytes *KNEW* prior to hiring me of my past. I didn't hide
    > who I was from anybody since releasing BugHunter, which is what got me the
    > job. Lets see here.. Oh yea, I didn't have questionable ethics or an
    > objectionable personality. I got along fine with my peers.
    >
    > You idiots want to keep guessing?
    >
    > According to this screenshot you sent me, Tony like you speculates I parted
    > ways with malwarebytes over my past. Fact is, I didn't. Fact is, YOU
    > ****ING LIED when you said Tony confirmed malwarebytes fired me.
    >
    >> That's why *you* are here, Dustin.

    >
    > Uhh, David, I've got you red handed, with evidence you sent me of the
    > converation you had with Tony. You both speculated about me, but that's it.
    > Tony isn't an insider as you led people to believe. I'll be having a
    > conversation myself with Tony; as I now find him to be a bit two faced, and
    > I really don't like that.
    >
    > I do believe this jpeg is showing me a real conversation between the two of
    > you. It doesn't match his response to my inquiry; and no wonder, he's bad
    > mouthing me right with you.
    >
    >> You *could* help put this to bed.

    >
    > Let's get this discussion resolved before we tackle anything else. Tony and
    > yourself have some explaining to do.


    <shrug>

  10. #70
    Dustin Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:j72f00$gln$1@dont-email.me:

    > Dustin wrote:
    >> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:j71q0u$o9v$1@dont-email.me:
    >>
    >>> *He has lied*.

    >>
    >> YOU have lied. I was finally able to extract your corrupted jpeg file
    >> from my pegasus inbox. ****ing jerk. Did you really think crashing my
    >> email client was going to amuse me? You didn't do any real harm either.
    >> More than one way to skin a cat.
    >>
    >> I checked out the jpeg you sent me. Allow me to put your and tony's
    >> notions to rest. Malwarebytes *KNEW* prior to hiring me of my past. I
    >> didn't hide who I was from anybody since releasing BugHunter, which is
    >> what got me the job. Lets see here.. Oh yea, I didn't have questionable
    >> ethics or an objectionable personality. I got along fine with my peers.
    >>
    >> You idiots want to keep guessing?
    >>
    >> According to this screenshot you sent me, Tony like you speculates I
    >> parted ways with malwarebytes over my past. Fact is, I didn't. Fact is,
    >> YOU ****ING LIED when you said Tony confirmed malwarebytes fired me.
    >>
    >>> That's why *you* are here, Dustin.

    >>
    >> Uhh, David, I've got you red handed, with evidence you sent me of the
    >> converation you had with Tony. You both speculated about me, but that's
    >> it. Tony isn't an insider as you led people to believe. I'll be having
    >> a conversation myself with Tony; as I now find him to be a bit two
    >> faced, and I really don't like that.
    >>
    >> I do believe this jpeg is showing me a real conversation between the
    >> two of you. It doesn't match his response to my inquiry; and no wonder,
    >> he's bad mouthing me right with you.
    >>
    >>> You *could* help put this to bed.

    >>
    >> Let's get this discussion resolved before we tackle anything else. Tony
    >> and yourself have some explaining to do.

    >
    > <shrug>
    >


    Why are you shrugging David? Am I mistaken in my understanding of the jpeg?
    You said that Tony told you I was fired. That's actually not what he said.
    So, you lied.

    What defense do you have?


    --
    I am a sinner
    Hold my prayers upto the sun
    I am a sinner
    Heaven's closed for what I've done.

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