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  1. #21
    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    Dustin wrote:
    > ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:j6tagb$q3n$1@dont-email.me:
    >
    >> Dustin wrote:
    >>
    >>> Yes. I have as well. I stand by what David Said.

    >>
    >> He didn't say very much!

    >
    > He's told you the same things I have repeatedly. You don't understand,
    > but rather than say that, you act as if you did, so we continue. It
    > doesn't do anyone any good as you don't have a clue what was discussed
    > two pages ago, let alone what we're discussing on page 3.


    I understand sufficient to appreciate that the bad guys are staying
    ahead of those who seek to catch them.

    >>> The question is, have you read AND understood the article? It's a
    >>> rhetorical question. We all you know didn't.

    >>
    >> <shrug>

    >
    > So thats a No, I didn't get it eh?


    I'm not a geek Dustin. I can follow the gist, though.

    >> I'd simply like to see the list again.

    >
    > What's stopping you from googling?


    How about doing a LMGTFY example - teach me!

    >> Of course!

    >
    > And it would be?


    Here is a malware removal thread by way of example:-

    http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=45086

    You'll see how the person with the problem, Gramma Arlene, follows
    blindly all the instructions given.

    *How* would anyone know what *may* have been installed on Arlene's
    computer unless they forensically examined it *after* the cleaning process?

    >> What if folk there *installed* malware instead of getting rid of it?

    >
    > David...
    >
    > If you have proof of this, proceed. If not, you are leaving yourself
    > open to various libel lawsuits; even in your country.
    >
    >> Who would know?

    >
    > That's the thing. You can't just make statements like that. As you
    > continue inferring rotten things, I'm getting the impression the only
    > real way to teach you different is to provide the necessary funds to
    > sue you in your country and take you for everything you have, for
    > slander and libel. These usenet posts will provide more than enough
    > evidence to meet US laws. I'm not sure about yours, but I'm willing to
    > pony up the dough for someone in your country to sue you at this point.



    What I *do* know for sure, Dustin, is that Robear Dyer - the prime mover
    at Aumha - *has lied*.

    I know that, *he* knows that and God knows that.

    A reminder, Dustin:

    Message-ID: <i1imbi$npr$1@news.eternal-september.org>

  2. #22
    Bullwinkle. Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    As a 'bad guy' hunter you should know.


    "~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
    news:j6tagb$q3n$1@dont-email.me...

    What if folk there *installed* malware instead of getting rid of it?

    Who would know?


  3. #23
    Bullwinkle. Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    Is that why you have never exposed or captured one?

    Like flying, you are a failure at 'bad guy' hunting.


    "~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
    news:j6ub9k$3ku$1@dont-email.me...

    I understand sufficient to appreciate that the bad guys are staying
    ahead of those who seek to catch them.



  4. #24
    Betty Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS Virus Out in the Wild

    FromTheRafters wrote:

    > [...] <waves>
    >


    WAVE TO FTR v10.10 (Beta) -- guaranteed free of spyware, viruses, worms,
    and cockroaches

    <Hi, FTR ... waving back atcha!>

    There is no privacy with the beta version ... but I think it works okay. [g]

  5. #25
    Aardvark Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 1023 -0500, Gramsterdam wrote:

    > Dustin wrote:
    >
    >>> I looked at the site, but never registered. If you know of a URL
    >>> where Malware is located on the site, I'll ferret it out to put this
    >>> Aumha thing to bed once and for all.

    >>
    >>In the interest of good will, I would be happy to analyze the said
    >>malware if you wish to send it along to me. I will provide a full
    >>analysis.

    >
    > Are you kidding? All these years and HE can't even tell me where the
    > Malware is located. You would think a person accusing Aumha of hosting
    > Malware would, well, show me the Malware is.
    >
    > I'm afraid there is nothing to analyze, Dustin.


    Well. now I'm totally shocked!



    --
    America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without
    civilization in between. - Oscar Wilde

  6. #26
    SeaNymph Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild


    "Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know> wrote in message
    news:HmFkq.7153$aR2.6651@newsfe06.ams2...
    > On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 1023 -0500, Gramsterdam wrote:
    >
    >> Dustin wrote:
    >>
    >>>> I looked at the site, but never registered. If you know of a URL
    >>>> where Malware is located on the site, I'll ferret it out to put this
    >>>> Aumha thing to bed once and for all.
    >>>
    >>>In the interest of good will, I would be happy to analyze the said
    >>>malware if you wish to send it along to me. I will provide a full
    >>>analysis.

    >>
    >> Are you kidding? All these years and HE can't even tell me where the
    >> Malware is located. You would think a person accusing Aumha of hosting
    >> Malware would, well, show me the Malware is.
    >>
    >> I'm afraid there is nothing to analyze, Dustin.

    >
    > Well. now I'm totally shocked!


    Honestly, this just makes me laugh out loud. Same conversation, slightly
    altered, same responses, all leading nowhere.



  7. #27
    Dustin Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:j6ub9k$3ku$1@dont-email.me:

    > Dustin wrote:
    >> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:j6tagb$q3n$1@dont-email.me:
    >>
    >>> Dustin wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Yes. I have as well. I stand by what David Said.
    >>>
    >>> He didn't say very much!

    >>
    >> He's told you the same things I have repeatedly. You don't understand,
    >> but rather than say that, you act as if you did, so we continue. It
    >> doesn't do anyone any good as you don't have a clue what was discussed
    >> two pages ago, let alone what we're discussing on page 3.

    >
    > I understand sufficient to appreciate that the bad guys are staying
    > ahead of those who seek to catch them.


    Which has nothing to do with this thread. The bad guys have always stayed
    ahead. AV and AM is re-active in nature.

    > I'm not a geek Dustin. I can follow the gist, though.


    I suspect you don't, though.

    > *How* would anyone know what *may* have been installed on Arlene's
    > computer unless they forensically examined it *after* the cleaning
    > process?


    David,

    People in this country are sued and lose all the time for trying to be coy
    with the libeleous accusations, just as you're presently doing.

    "I had no idea he'd shoot his friend after I told him he was ****ing his
    old lady. Yes, he's been to prison for the same thing before, but innocent
    me that I am, how was I to know he'd do it again?"

    Your making statements intended to harm the reputation of a site when you
    have no actual evidence to back the statement up.

    > What I *do* know for sure, Dustin, is that Robear Dyer - the prime mover
    > at Aumha - *has lied*.


    That's libel and slander now. Unless, of course, you could prove it, David?



    --
    I am a sinner
    Hold my prayers upto the sun
    I am a sinner
    Heaven's closed for what I've done.

  8. #28
    Aardvark Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:08:51 -0500, SeaNymph wrote:

    > "Aardvark" <aardvark@youllnever.know> wrote in message
    > news:HmFkq.7153$aR2.6651@newsfe06.ams2...
    >> On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 1023 -0500, Gramsterdam wrote:
    >>
    >>> Dustin wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> I looked at the site, but never registered. If you know of a URL
    >>>>> where Malware is located on the site, I'll ferret it out to put this
    >>>>> Aumha thing to bed once and for all.
    >>>>
    >>>>In the interest of good will, I would be happy to analyze the said
    >>>>malware if you wish to send it along to me. I will provide a full
    >>>>analysis.
    >>>
    >>> Are you kidding? All these years and HE can't even tell me where the
    >>> Malware is located. You would think a person accusing Aumha of
    >>> hosting Malware would, well, show me the Malware is.
    >>>
    >>> I'm afraid there is nothing to analyze, Dustin.

    >>
    >> Well. now I'm totally shocked!

    >
    > Honestly, this just makes me laugh out loud. Same conversation,
    > slightly altered, same responses, all leading nowhere.


    Bd is a bit like a goldfish- tell him something, and he forgets it eight
    seconds later.

    Oooohh! Look! A castle!

    Oooohh! Look! A castle!

    Oooohh! Look! A castle!

    Oooohh! Look! A castle!

    Oooohh! Look! A castle!

    Oooohh! Look! A castle!

    Oooohh! Look! A castle!

    Oooohh! Look! A castle!

    Oooohh! Look! A castle!

    Oooohh! Look! A castle!

    Oooohh! Look! A castle!



    --
    America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without
    civilization in between. - Oscar Wilde

  9. #29
    Aardvark Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:31:11 +0000, Dustin wrote:

    > BD wrote:


    >> What I *do* know for sure, Dustin, is that Robear Dyer - the prime
    >> mover at Aumha - *has lied*.

    >
    > That's libel and slander now. Unless, of course, you could prove it,
    > David?


    Of course he can't. He doesn't even have a shred of supporting evidence.
    'Hinky' doesn't count.



    --
    America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without
    civilization in between. - Oscar Wilde

  10. #30
    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: Ping FTR: Mebromi BIOS trojan Out in the Wild

    Dustin wrote:
    > ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:j6ub9k$3ku$1@dont-email.me:
    >
    >> Dustin wrote:
    >>> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:j6tagb$q3n$1@dont-email.me:
    >>>
    >>>> Dustin wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Yes. I have as well. I stand by what David Said.
    >>>>
    >>>> He didn't say very much!
    >>>
    >>> He's told you the same things I have repeatedly. You don't understand,
    >>> but rather than say that, you act as if you did, so we continue. It
    >>> doesn't do anyone any good as you don't have a clue what was discussed
    >>> two pages ago, let alone what we're discussing on page 3.

    >>
    >> I understand sufficient to appreciate that the bad guys are staying
    >> ahead of those who seek to catch them.

    >
    > Which has nothing to do with this thread. The bad guys have always stayed
    > ahead. AV and AM is re-active in nature.
    >
    >> I'm not a geek Dustin. I can follow the gist, though.

    >
    > I suspect you don't, though.
    >
    >> *How* would anyone know what *may* have been installed on Arlene's
    >> computer unless they forensically examined it *after* the cleaning
    >> process?

    >
    > David,
    >
    > People in this country are sued and lose all the time for trying to be coy
    > with the libeleous accusations, just as you're presently doing.
    >
    > "I had no idea he'd shoot his friend after I told him he was ****ing his
    > old lady. Yes, he's been to prison for the same thing before, but innocent
    > me that I am, how was I to know he'd do it again?"
    >
    > Your making statements intended to harm the reputation of a site when you
    > have no actual evidence to back the statement up.


    Maybe you are now claiming that Aumha *is* a good and bona fide help
    site - is that correct? That would be in line with your ex work
    colleague, David H. Lipman. Are you sure?

    >> What I *do* know for sure, Dustin, is that Robear Dyer - the prime mover
    >> at Aumha - *has lied*.

    >
    > That's libel and slander now. Unless, of course, you could prove it, David?


    I'm uncertain *how* I could prove that I've never been expelled by an
    ISP - but it's simply the truth.

    He *lied*. I tell the truth.

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