FAQ for Microsoft Security Essentials, Scanning, Detecting and Removing

[Dustin]

~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
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> In the first part, there is this statement:-
>
> "Speaking from experience, it's doubtful that MSE or any other
> anti-virus/antispyware application would install (or install
> properly) on an already-infected computer."

Although I don't have the full text; depending on the situation, yes I'd
have to agree based on field experience.

Don't take that as an agree on all cases, ok? It's just some malware is a
bit more difficult then others.

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Hold my prayers upto the sun
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Heaven's closed for what I've done.

[~BD~]

Dustin wrote:
> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:j487ki$b9i$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> In the first part, there is this statement:-
>>
>> "Speaking from experience, it's doubtful that MSE or any other
>> anti-virus/antispyware application would install (or install
>> properly) on an already-infected computer."
>
> Although I don't have the full text;

I gave you the link!

> depending on the situation, yes I'd
> have to agree based on field experience.

OK - thanks. :-)

> Don't take that as an agree on all cases, ok? It's just some malware is a
> bit more difficult then others.

I have no doubt that the malware writers now have great skill in their
ability to thwart the efforts of the anti-malware companies.

[Dustin]

~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:j48kii$7ka$1@dont-email.me:

> I have no doubt that the malware writers now have great skill in
> their ability to thwart the efforts of the anti-malware companies.

It's not about skill anymore. It's about the $$$ now.


--
I am a sinner
Hold my prayers upto the sun
I am a sinner
Heaven's closed for what I've done.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Dustin" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>

> ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:j48kii$7ka$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> I have no doubt that the malware writers now have great skill in
>> their ability to thwart the efforts of the anti-malware companies.
>
> It's not about skill anymore. It's about the $$$ now.
>


+1

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[~BD~]

David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "Dustin"<bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>
>> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>> news:j48kii$7ka$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> I have no doubt that the malware writers now have great skill in
>>> their ability to thwart the efforts of the anti-malware companies.
>>
>> It's not about skill anymore. It's about the $$$ now.
>>
>
>
> +1
>

I recognise that because the bad guys are making $billions, they can
afford to pay *far more* to the gurus than can the anti-malware companies.

The good guys are likely to be the losers!

[FromTheRafters]

"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
news:j4adm6$3lg$1@dont-email.me...
> David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "Dustin"<bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>>
>>> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>>> news:j48kii$7ka$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> I have no doubt that the malware writers now have great skill in
>>>> their ability to thwart the efforts of the anti-malware companies.
>>>
>>> It's not about skill anymore. It's about the $$$ now.
>>>
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>
> I recognise that because the bad guys are making $billions, they can afford to
> pay *far more* to the gurus than can the anti-malware companies.

Your point?

Gurus working for anti-malware companies are underpaid?

The bad guys have the advantage because commiting crime
pays better than fighting crime does?

Probably all true, but I don't know if the criminals share their
profits with the malware writers as much as they just buy the
products the authors offer and use them in a criminal enterprise.

[~BD~]

FromTheRafters wrote:
> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
> news:j4adm6$3lg$1@dont-email.me...
>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> From: "Dustin"<bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
>>>> news:j48kii$7ka$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> I have no doubt that the malware writers now have great skill in
>>>>> their ability to thwart the efforts of the anti-malware companies.
>>>>
>>>> It's not about skill anymore. It's about the $$$ now.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>
>> I recognise that because the bad guys are making $billions, they can afford to
>> pay *far more* to the gurus than can the anti-malware companies.
>
> Your point?
>
> Gurus working for anti-malware companies are underpaid?

One could put it that way! :-)

> The bad guys have the advantage because committing crime
> pays better than fighting crime does?

Absolutely right!

> Probably all true, but I don't know if the criminals share their
> profits with the malware writers as much as they just buy the
> products the authors offer and use them in a criminal enterprise.

There's no way for 'us' to know, is there?!!!