Couple Can Sue Laptop-Tracking Company (LoJack) for Spying on Sex Chats

[Jenn]

On 9/3/2011 6:10 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
> "G. Morgan"<G_Morgan@easy.com> wrote in message
> news:bpa567htcc7gjh397mqavi9op949v96270@Osama-is-dead.net...
>> Dustin wrote:
>>
>>> possibilities if the
>>> lojack was tricked into thinking the worst by a malware file that
>>> detected it's presence and took advantage.
>>
>> A new attack vector, suggest you?
>>
>> That would be a nasty one.
>
> More a payload than an attack vector. Like the old cryptovirology
> angle, with a twist. You want your data back, pay me. Upon payment
> I *might* just tell you how - and it involves LoJack and you getting a
> root key of some sort from them - nothing to do with me at all, as it
> wasn't *my* key being used.
>
>
Would you put lojack on your laptop?

--
Jenn
(posting from Thunderbird)

[FromTheRafters]

"Jenn" <me@fakee..mail.com> wrote in message news:j3uqkv$hp$1@dont-email.me...
> On 9/3/2011 6:10 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
>> "G. Morgan"<G_Morgan@easy.com> wrote in message
>> news:bpa567htcc7gjh397mqavi9op949v96270@Osama-is-dead.net...
>>> Dustin wrote:
>>>
>>>> possibilities if the
>>>> lojack was tricked into thinking the worst by a malware file that
>>>> detected it's presence and took advantage.
>>>
>>> A new attack vector, suggest you?
>>>
>>> That would be a nasty one.
>>
>> More a payload than an attack vector. Like the old cryptovirology
>> angle, with a twist. You want your data back, pay me. Upon payment
>> I *might* just tell you how - and it involves LoJack and you getting a
>> root key of some sort from them - nothing to do with me at all, as it
>> wasn't *my* key being used.
>>
>>
> Would you put lojack on your laptop?

I believe my Toshiba Satellite already has the hardware support for
it; I probably would if thought my laptop was likely to be stolen. I don't
travel with it, it stays at home, so it's not that likely IMO.

I'm still unsure of the hardware aspect, but I really wouldn't bother
with the software/firmware version as it can be defeated anyway.
Generally, what can be done with software can be undone with
software. There's not much information about the hardware aspect
aside from marketing bull****.

Their Q & A states that it is persistent in spite of reformatting the
drive. It also says that it is persistent after reflashing the BIOS
firmware (because of a "healing" capability). It is not specifically
stated that it can survive *both* a reformat and a flashing. In other
words, if the "healing" of the BIOS reflashing is accomplished by
the software on the drive, and the persistence of the software is
accomplish by the code in the BIOS which phones home and
reloads the software, removing *both* defeats the whole scenario.
They are not clear about that, and in my experience with security
related program vendors, they are willing to let the buyer make
bad assumptions if it increases sales.

[Jenn]

On 9/4/2011 7:14 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
> "Jenn"<me@fakee..mail.com> wrote in message news:j3uqkv$hp$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 9/3/2011 6:10 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> "G. Morgan"<G_Morgan@easy.com> wrote in message
>>> news:bpa567htcc7gjh397mqavi9op949v96270@Osama-is-dead.net...
>>>> Dustin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> possibilities if the
>>>>> lojack was tricked into thinking the worst by a malware file that
>>>>> detected it's presence and took advantage.
>>>>
>>>> A new attack vector, suggest you?
>>>>
>>>> That would be a nasty one.
>>>
>>> More a payload than an attack vector. Like the old cryptovirology
>>> angle, with a twist. You want your data back, pay me. Upon payment
>>> I *might* just tell you how - and it involves LoJack and you getting a
>>> root key of some sort from them - nothing to do with me at all, as it
>>> wasn't *my* key being used.
>>>
>>>
>> Would you put lojack on your laptop?
>
> I believe my Toshiba Satellite already has the hardware support for
> it; I probably would if thought my laptop was likely to be stolen. I don't
> travel with it, it stays at home, so it's not that likely IMO.
>
> I'm still unsure of the hardware aspect, but I really wouldn't bother
> with the software/firmware version as it can be defeated anyway.
> Generally, what can be done with software can be undone with
> software. There's not much information about the hardware aspect
> aside from marketing bull****.
>
> Their Q& A states that it is persistent in spite of reformatting the
> drive. It also says that it is persistent after reflashing the BIOS
> firmware (because of a "healing" capability). It is not specifically
> stated that it can survive *both* a reformat and a flashing. In other
> words, if the "healing" of the BIOS reflashing is accomplished by
> the software on the drive, and the persistence of the software is
> accomplish by the code in the BIOS which phones home and
> reloads the software, removing *both* defeats the whole scenario.
> They are not clear about that, and in my experience with security
> related program vendors, they are willing to let the buyer make
> bad assumptions if it increases sales.
>
>

When I bought my laptop a Lojack CD came with it, but I didn't feel
'right' about putting it on my laptop so it's still sitting in the
original pkg it came in.

--
Jenn
(posting from Thunderbird)

[Bullwinkle.]

Why not? As a former sysop and web master could you not hanlde it?


"Jenn" <me@fakee..mail.com> wrote in message
news:j40h2t$igs$1@dont-email.me...
When I bought my laptop a Lojack CD came with it, but I didn't feel
'right' about putting it on my laptop so it's still sitting in the
original pkg it came in.


Jenn

[G. Morgan]

Jenn wrote:

>When I bought my laptop a Lojack CD came with it, but I didn't feel
>'right' about putting it on my laptop so it's still sitting in the
>original pkg it came in.

Keep it in the package.