Couple Can Sue Laptop-Tracking Company (LoJack) for Spying on Sex Chats

[David W. Hodgins]

On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:50:54 -0400, Dustin <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, and switching to linux still ****s you, when the optionrom2 calls
> home on your internet connection and finds out she's stolen. Which it
> will do, when it cannot drop the exe file. LOL. Whan happens next is a

If it's using a windows executable, to phone home, that won't work.

From
http://blog.lojackforlaptops.com/201...-is-recovered/

Kelly@Absolute says:
July 7, 2011 at 9:02 pm
LoJack would not work in a Linux environment.

> bios lockdown. IE: no more booting till your system gets an internet
> connection and an OK from them. The only way around is a hotswap bios
> reflash then.

Are you saying the option rom can establish an internet connection
before the operating system boots?

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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[David H. Lipman]

From: "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org>

> On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:50:54 -0400, Dustin <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, and switching to linux still ****s you, when the optionrom2 calls
>> home on your internet connection and finds out she's stolen. Which it
>> will do, when it cannot drop the exe file. LOL. Whan happens next is a
>
> If it's using a windows executable, to phone home, that won't work.
>
> From
> http://blog.lojackforlaptops.com/201...-is-recovered/
>
> Kelly@Absolute says:
> July 7, 2011 at 9:02 pm
> LoJack would not work in a Linux environment.
>
>> bios lockdown. IE: no more booting till your system gets an internet
>> connection and an OK from them. The only way around is a hotswap bios
>> reflash then.
>
> Are you saying the option rom can establish an internet connection
> before the operating system boots?
>

Hmmmmm.....

If it is embedded it may be possible. What if you install a different NIC ? There is NO
WAY the any BIOS routine would be able to communicate with it.



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[David W. Hodgins]

On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:41:57 -0400, David H. Lipman <DLipman~nospam~@verizon.net> wrote:

> From: "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org>
>> Are you saying the option rom can establish an internet connection
>> before the operating system boots?

> If it is embedded it may be possible. What if you install a different NIC ? There is NO
> WAY the any BIOS routine would be able to communicate with it.

It would have trouble with the password for my dsl access too.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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[G. Morgan]

David H. Lipman wrote:

>From: "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org>
>
>> On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:50:54 -0400, Dustin <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, and switching to linux still ****s you, when the optionrom2 calls
>>> home on your internet connection and finds out she's stolen. Which it
>>> will do, when it cannot drop the exe file. LOL. Whan happens next is a
>>
>> If it's using a windows executable, to phone home, that won't work.
>>
>> From
>> http://blog.lojackforlaptops.com/201...-is-recovered/
>>
>> Kelly@Absolute says:
>> July 7, 2011 at 9:02 pm
>> LoJack would not work in a Linux environment.
>>
>>> bios lockdown. IE: no more booting till your system gets an internet
>>> connection and an OK from them. The only way around is a hotswap bios
>>> reflash then.
>>
>> Are you saying the option rom can establish an internet connection
>> before the operating system boots?
>>
>
>Hmmmmm.....
>
>If it is embedded it may be possible. What if you install a different NIC ? There is NO
>WAY the any BIOS routine would be able to communicate with it.

Unless it refuses to give an IRQ to any device in the FCC database that
is a NIC.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org>

> On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:41:57 -0400, David H. Lipman <DLipman~nospam~@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> From: "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org>
>>> Are you saying the option rom can establish an internet connection
>>> before the operating system boots?
>
>> If it is embedded it may be possible. What if you install a different NIC ? There is
>> NO
>> WAY the any BIOS routine would be able to communicate with it.
>
> It would have trouble with the password for my dsl access too.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>

PPoE authentication.



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[David H. Lipman]

From: "G. Morgan" <G_Morgan@easy.com>

>>
>> Hmmmmm.....
>>
>> If it is embedded it may be possible. What if you install a different NIC ? There is
>> NO
>> WAY the any BIOS routine would be able to communicate with it.
>
> Unless it refuses to give an IRQ to any device in the FCC database that
> is a NIC.
>
>

???


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[Peter Foldes]

"G. Morgan" <G_Morgan@easy.com> wrote in message
news:0c53671k4a0mlnmfmea9gvrgj71vfu2etk@Osama-is-dead.net...
> David H. Lipman wrote:


> Unless it refuses to give an IRQ to any device in the FCC database that
> is a NIC.
>


What are you saying with the above Morgan. Makes no sense here

JS

[G. Morgan]

David H. Lipman wrote:

>From: "G. Morgan" <G_Morgan@easy.com>
>
>>>
>>> Hmmmmm.....
>>>
>>> If it is embedded it may be possible. What if you install a different NIC ? There is
>>> NO
>>> WAY the any BIOS routine would be able to communicate with it.
>>
>> Unless it refuses to give an IRQ to any device in the FCC database that
>> is a NIC.
>>
>>
>
>???

I was actually thinking of the PCI database. But the FCC has one too on
NIC's.

http://www.pcidatabase.com/search.ph...ice_search.y=0

Wouldn't LoJack be able to recognize a NIC in this manner and still work
on Linux?

[Dustin]

"David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
newsp.v07k0xqda3w0dxdave@hodgins.homeip.net:

> On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:50:54 -0400, Dustin
> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, and switching to linux still ****s you, when the optionrom2
>> calls home on your internet connection and finds out she's stolen.
>> Which it will do, when it cannot drop the exe file. LOL. Whan
>> happens next is a
>
> If it's using a windows executable, to phone home, that won't work.

You seem to be missing something important. It can use the windows
executable, but in the event it cannot drop it in a specified amount of
time, it halts the boot process.

> Are you saying the option rom can establish an internet connection
> before the operating system boots?

I'm not only saying that, but, being as I've extracted a viable sample of
the option rom and have since learned how to remove it, I *know* the
company is lying about the products limitations and abilities.


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[Dustin]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
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> From: "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org>
>
>> On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:50:54 -0400, Dustin
>> <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, and switching to linux still ****s you, when the optionrom2
>>> calls home on your internet connection and finds out she's stolen.
>>> Which it will do, when it cannot drop the exe file. LOL. Whan
>>> happens next is a
>>
>> If it's using a windows executable, to phone home, that won't work.
>>
>> From
>> http://blog.lojackforlaptops.com/201...ays—laptop-wit
>> h-wiped-drive-is-recovered/
>>
>> Kelly@Absolute says:
>> July 7, 2011 at 9:02 pm
>> LoJack would not work in a Linux environment.
>>
>>> bios lockdown. IE: no more booting till your system gets an
>>> internet connection and an OK from them. The only way around is a
>>> hotswap bios reflash then.
>>
>> Are you saying the option rom can establish an internet connection
>> before the operating system boots?
>>
>
> Hmmmmm.....
>
> If it is embedded it may be possible. What if you install a
> different NIC ? There is NO WAY the any BIOS routine would be able
> to communicate with it.

You forget something important. The laptop has a NIC already built in,
the bios has remote control over it. Always has. Lojacked laptop isn't
going to use a nic you provide. [g]


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