PCButts Infamous Pic of Dust**** Relaxing After Virus Writing

[Dustin]

G. Morgan <G_Morgan@easy.com> wrote in
news:jkl537puukrjda1tsqi8fu0pl3qnbvkvde@Osama-is-dead.net:

> ~BD~ wrote:
>
>>To *GET* the text file, one *has* to visit a URL.
>
> Or use the command line 'wget' in a sandbox, for the paranoid.

Or use the sites known IP and forget the "URL" altogether...


--
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Hold my prayers upto the sun
I am a sinner
Heaven's closed for what I've done.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Dustin" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>

> G. Morgan <G_Morgan@easy.com> wrote in
> news:jkl537puukrjda1tsqi8fu0pl3qnbvkvde@Osama-is-dead.net:
>
>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>
>>> To *GET* the text file, one *has* to visit a URL.
>>
>> Or use the command line 'wget' in a sandbox, for the paranoid.
>
> Or use the sites known IP and forget the "URL" altogether...

If its a dedicated site, yes.



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Dave
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[FromTheRafters]

"Dustin" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> G. Morgan <G_Morgan@easy.com> wrote in
> news:jkl537puukrjda1tsqi8fu0pl3qnbvkvde@Osama-is-dead.net:
>
>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>
>>>To *GET* the text file, one *has* to visit a URL.
>>
>> Or use the command line 'wget' in a sandbox, for the paranoid.
>
> Or use the sites known IP and forget the "URL" altogether...

Isn't it still a URL even if you use the numerical address
instead of a name to look up? )

Anyway, the server gets to decide what to do with your request.

[~BD~]

FromTheRafters wrote:
> "Dustin"<bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9F31D2724E994HHI2948AJD832@no...
>> G. Morgan<G_Morgan@easy.com> wrote in
>> news:jkl537puukrjda1tsqi8fu0pl3qnbvkvde@Osama-is-dead.net:
>>
>>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>>
>>>> To *GET* the text file, one *has* to visit a URL.
>>>
>>> Or use the command line 'wget' in a sandbox, for the paranoid.
>>
>> Or use the sites known IP and forget the "URL" altogether...
>
> Isn't it still a URL even if you use the numerical address
> instead of a name to look up? )

Not according to this item!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform...rce_Identifier

I learn a lot from being here on SE!

> Anyway, the server gets to decide what to do with your request.

I know that - now! ;-)

Remember our discussion about being 'vulnerable' simply by connecting to
news.annexcafe.com ? .... or news.dogagent.com ?!!

[FromTheRafters]

"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in message
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> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> "Dustin"<bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9F31D2724E994HHI2948AJD832@no...
>>> G. Morgan<G_Morgan@easy.com> wrote in
>>> news:jkl537puukrjda1tsqi8fu0pl3qnbvkvde@Osama-is-dead.net:
>>>
>>>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> To *GET* the text file, one *has* to visit a URL.
>>>>
>>>> Or use the command line 'wget' in a sandbox, for the paranoid.
>>>
>>> Or use the sites known IP and forget the "URL" altogether...
>>
>> Isn't it still a URL even if you use the numerical address
>> instead of a name to look up? )
>
> Not according to this item!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform...rce_Identifier

What part of that item says that a numerical address disqualifies the string as
being a URL?

> I learn a lot from being here on SE!

Here's your chance to teach *me* something.

Why isn't http://88.198.244.100/wiki/Uniform_Resource_Identifier a URL?

[...]

[~BD~]

FromTheRafters wrote:
> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in message
> news:Ys2dnaLXj4sYJa7TnZ2dnUVZ7tSdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> "Dustin"<bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9F31D2724E994HHI2948AJD832@no...
>>>> G. Morgan<G_Morgan@easy.com> wrote in
>>>> news:jkl537puukrjda1tsqi8fu0pl3qnbvkvde@Osama-is-dead.net:
>>>>
>>>>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> To *GET* the text file, one *has* to visit a URL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or use the command line 'wget' in a sandbox, for the paranoid.
>>>>
>>>> Or use the sites known IP and forget the "URL" altogether...
>>>
>>> Isn't it still a URL even if you use the numerical address
>>> instead of a name to look up? )
>>
>> Not according to this item!
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform...rce_Identifier
>
> What part of that item says that a numerical address disqualifies the string as
> being a URL?


Do you think I might have misunderstood this?

"One can classify URIs as locators (URLs), or as names (URNs), or as
both. A Uniform Resource Name (URN) functions like a person's name,
while a Uniform Resource Locator (URL) resembles that person's street
address. In other words: the URN defines an item's identity, while the
URL provides a method for finding it."


>> I learn a lot from being here on SE!
>
> Here's your chance to teach *me* something.
>
> Why isn't http://88.198.244.100/wiki/Uniform_Resource_Identifier a URL?

I'm considering first why I should be getting this response:-

200 mx04.eternal-september.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.0
(20110502 snapshot) ready (posting ok)
500 What?
500 What?
500 What?
500 What?
500 What?
500 What?
500 What?


*

Just going to wash my car. I'll be back later! :-)

D.

[Dustin]

"FromTheRafters" <erratic.howard@gmail.com> wrote in news:j0vo66$mt0$1
@dont-email.me:

> "Dustin" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9F31D2724E994HHI2948AJD832@no...
>> G. Morgan <G_Morgan@easy.com> wrote in
>> news:jkl537puukrjda1tsqi8fu0pl3qnbvkvde@Osama-is-dead.net:
>>
>>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>>
>>>>To *GET* the text file, one *has* to visit a URL.
>>>
>>> Or use the command line 'wget' in a sandbox, for the paranoid.
>>
>> Or use the sites known IP and forget the "URL" altogether...
>
> Isn't it still a URL even if you use the numerical address
> instead of a name to look up? )

Nope. URL is a name, IP is an.. You guessed it, IP! URL requires DNS
help, actual IP doesn't.

> Anyway, the server gets to decide what to do with your request.

Of course.


--
I am a sinner
Hold my prayers upto the sun
I am a sinner
Heaven's closed for what I've done.

[FromTheRafters]

"Dustin" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "FromTheRafters" <erratic.howard@gmail.com> wrote in news:j0vo66$mt0$1
> @dont-email.me:
>
>> "Dustin" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9F31D2724E994HHI2948AJD832@no...
>>> G. Morgan <G_Morgan@easy.com> wrote in
>>> news:jkl537puukrjda1tsqi8fu0pl3qnbvkvde@Osama-is-dead.net:
>>>
>>>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>To *GET* the text file, one *has* to visit a URL.
>>>>
>>>> Or use the command line 'wget' in a sandbox, for the paranoid.
>>>
>>> Or use the sites known IP and forget the "URL" altogether...
>>
>> Isn't it still a URL even if you use the numerical address
>> instead of a name to look up? )
>
> Nope. URL is a name, IP is an.. You guessed it, IP! URL requires DNS
> help, actual IP doesn't.

This time, I'll have to agree with Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Resource_Locator
"Every URL consists of some of the following: the scheme name (commonly called
protocol), followed by a colon, then, depending on scheme, a domain name
(alternatively, IP address), a port number, the path of the resource to be
fetched or the program to be run, then, for programs such as Common Gateway
Interface (CGI) scripts, a query string,[8][9] and an optional fragment
identifier.[10]

The syntax is
scheme://domainort/path?query_string#fragment_id"

They are in total agreement with what I had already understood to be the case,
so I like their answer better than yours. It is *still* a URL whether a domain
name (or other name) to IP address lookup is needed or not.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic.howard@gmail.com>

>>>
>>> Isn't it still a URL even if you use the numerical address
>>> instead of a name to look up? )
>>
>> Nope. URL is a name, IP is an.. You guessed it, IP! URL requires DNS
>> help, actual IP doesn't.
>
> This time, I'll have to agree with Wikipedia:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Resource_Locator
> "Every URL consists of some of the following: the scheme name (commonly called
> protocol), followed by a colon, then, depending on scheme, a domain name (alternatively,
> IP address), a port number, the path of the resource to be fetched or the program to be
> run, then, for programs such as Common Gateway Interface (CGI) scripts, a query
> string,[8][9] and an optional fragment identifier.[10]
>
> The syntax is
> scheme://domainort/path?query_string#fragment_id"
>
> They are in total agreement with what I had already understood to be the case, so I like
> their answer better than yours. It is *still* a URL whether a domain name (or other
> name) to IP address lookup is needed or not.
>


When does a URL become an IRL ?

Local protocols like hcp ?
Ex: hcp://system/HomePage.htm

BTW: That syntax is incomplete:
scheme://userassword@hostort/path

PS: Remember to remove; alt.politics.scorched-earth

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[FromTheRafters]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:j173ll0tfr@news6.newsguy.com...
> From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic.howard@gmail.com>
>
>>>>
>>>> Isn't it still a URL even if you use the numerical address
>>>> instead of a name to look up? )
>>>
>>> Nope. URL is a name, IP is an.. You guessed it, IP! URL requires DNS
>>> help, actual IP doesn't.
>>
>> This time, I'll have to agree with Wikipedia:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Resource_Locator
>> "Every URL consists of some of the following: the scheme name (commonly
>> called protocol), followed by a colon, then, depending on scheme, a domain
>> name (alternatively, IP address), a port number, the path of the resource to
>> be fetched or the program to be run, then, for programs such as Common
>> Gateway Interface (CGI) scripts, a query string,[8][9] and an optional
>> fragment identifier.[10]
>>
>> The syntax is
>> scheme://domainort/path?query_string#fragment_id"
>>
>> They are in total agreement with what I had already understood to be the
>> case, so I like their answer better than yours. It is *still* a URL whether a
>> domain name (or other name) to IP address lookup is needed or not.
>>
>
>
> When does a URL become an IRL ?
>
> Local protocols like hcp ?
> Ex: hcp://system/HomePage.htm

I don't know, maybe when localhost (127.0.0.1) is assumed by the protocol?

I refer to RFC 1738 now:

"host
The fully qualified domain name of a network host, or its IP
address as a set of four decimal digit groups separated by
".". Fully qualified domain names take the form as described
in Section 3.5 of RFC 1034 [13] and Section 2.1 of RFC 1123
[5]: ..."

> BTW: That syntax is incomplete:
> scheme://userassword@hostort/path

Yes, this is in agreement with rfc 1738 and the "host" section excerpted above.