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I cleaned up the quotes and words per line. It seems these geniuses
couldn't figure out what the average wpl should be in Usenet posts.

Notice how this idiot Raid/Duckfart Cook/Dalton/Casio wants everyone,
in essence, to be licensed and knowledgable to some extent or other
before they are allowed to own/operate a computer?

Because we are ignorant of computer languages, programming, security
measures, it absolves him of all blame for destroying other people's
property, such as their software, information, etc.

If we carry that silly assumption even further, this logic exonerates
all terrorists for the results of their terrorism. We know there are
terrorists, but still we do not allow their existence to dictate our
every movement throughout the day. Hence, it is our fault when they
maim or kill us. Isn't it a great World that Dustbin wants for us? He
wants complete freedom to attack the world at large.

How do we spell PSYCHOPATH?

What is equally appalling about this series of posts is that ordinary
people, who we would normally assume to be somewhat bright, are
endeavouring to argue with this delusional psychopath. Incredible!

It is these ongoing, redundant, seemingly ceaseless posts highlighting
this psycho which are responsible for his notoriety, not his penny
ante viruses, nor his limited knowledge of real virus writing. He is
an outcast among the elite of that sphere also. They have little more
use for him than do we. Fortunately for him, quite a few personalities
who work(ed) for AV companies wasted their time showcasing this
morally and intellectually challenged gnat who thinks himself
beatified by their perverse fascination with him. If they could only
read from the viewpoint of the average reader of these Usenet posts,
they'd realize how absolutely inadequately they have served the
purpose of the AV community at large.
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Discussion subject changed to "Response to Bruce PBurrel" by Casio [SLAM]

Casio [SLAM]
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus
From: Ca...@raiderz.com (Casio [SLAM])
Date: 1997/08/16
Subject: Response to Bruce PBurrel

In article <5sotak$6d...@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu>,
Bruce P. Burrell <b...@ren.us.itd.umich.edu> wrote:

>>Well, YOU say they're well written.; I bet most virus authors say
>>that about their pitiful creations. I haven't bothered to look at
>>yours, so I'll await judgement via peer review.


Yes, Yes I do. For several reasons, They don't corrupt there host.
They replicate without Locking the machine in the process.

>You don't get to name 'em; you don't get to pass judgement on their
>quality.


So, since I don't write AV, I get to pass judgement on those?

>and designed to work on Windows95/Winnt/os/2 warp and Dos. Because
>of a exploit i found while studying those OSes... Sounds like an
>idle boast.


It's by no means a boast. For example, when you goto load a dos
application or a windows one in a windows dos box, windows will run
it, You won't get the annoying "This application must be run in
windows" My virus exploits that feature that has been implemented
in win95/winnt and os/2 warp.

>Alan isn't here to comment, but if Scotland Yard thought there was
>merit to pursuing the case, I bet they had a good reason. After all,
>Dr. Solly has the right to exercise his free speech whenever he so
>chooses, just as you do.


Indeed he does. he does not however have the right to make false
claims. IE: Claiming Crypt Newsletter Cracked the case in his press
interview. That didn't happen.

>Some of us see it as an educational Lesson. Computers don't require
>any knowledge to run them.. Driving a car does. the less ignorant
>people we have who cannot tell the difference between a file and a
>directory, The better. What a load of flatulence!


>1. Sure, cars require knowledge to drive. But not ALL knowledge; if
>so, we'd all be auto mechanics.
>


Not true. you must learn ways of the road, safety etc.

>2. Knowing how to drive a car requires, what? Knowing how to put the
>key in the ignition, turn it, and put the car in gear. It also
>requires knowing how to use the accelerator, brake, and steering
>wheel. That does not suffice to be able to drive WELL.


See comment above.

>3. Using a computer requires knowing how to turn it on, and run a
>program or two. Similar skill levels for basic use.
>


A user SHOULD know the difference between a file and a diretory (or
folder) as win95 lables them. if they do not, They should learn it.
there is simple no excuse for ignorance.

>4. Driving a car can actually cause physical harm to someone; that's
>why, in part, one must have a license to drive legally.


Indeed it can, Not only yourself but someone else.

>5. Computers aren't lethal weapons, so the users don't have to be
>licensed. If the computer user doesn't know about files and
>subdirectories, they'll be limited enough without having a virus to
>add to the mix.


A computer user should know atleast how some of his/her computer
works. Ignorance is no excuse.

>6. Your solution to the ignorant computer user is to give him or her
>a virus? I wonder what you advocate for the neophyte driver. Cattle
>prods to the genitals?


Nope. A decent driving instructor, and some familarity with the laws
of the road is all I ask.

>On access scanners are worthless unless they are already familiar
>with the virus. As this one is new, not based on another's code, An
>on access scanner will not locate it. Some on-access products now
>have heuristics. Virus writers will be limited even further.


heh... That only applies if the virus is written in pure asm. No
hueristics catch any of my creations. Heuristics is by no means some
super way of detecting a virus anyway. Your only using certain
guidelines for POSSIBLE virus activity.

Casio [SLAM] - I've been to the dark side, I think I'll stay awhile.
Your no longer above me, crying to understand me. So much for your,
your constant *****ing, so much for you.


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