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  1. #51
    Aardvark Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:03:20 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:

    > Beauregard T.shagnasty wrote:


    >> So what? What possible difference could there be if a product is
    >> downloadable or comes on a CD? Answer: Absolutely none.

    >
    > You are *wrong* about that - IMO.


    Your opinion is based upon your vast expertise in the subject, is it,
    ****?



    --
    "Those who do not make human beings the center of their concern soon
    lose the capacity to make any ethical choices, for they willingly
    sacrifice others in the name of the politically expedient and
    practical." - Dwight Macdonald, “The Root Is Man.”

  2. #52
    Dustin Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    news:4rGdnfxE3bnO04TTnZ2dnUVZ7qmdnZ2d@bt.com:

    > *You* are a marked man, Dustin Cook


    Oh, just for the record; as you've had a few days to sour over it...

    Aardvark for the record didn't give you up. He simply told me I should be
    looking someplace else. He provided no actual information on you.

    Apologies to aardvark for allowing others to think he'd gave you up, but
    it was funny to see your reaction.

    I do have your info, Aardvark has more ethics than you credit him for, he
    didn't provide it.

    Second, I'm not a cyber criminal; I don't take peoples identities and I'm
    not out carding anybody. Read the article slowly.



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    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over


  3. #53
    Dustin Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    news:MMadnRc12uPyzYTTnZ2dnUVZ8oednZ2d@bt.com:

    > I'll display my ignorance again. I'm uncertain what you mean by
    > "somebody sends the executable in".


    LOL! You *are* a ****ing idiot.

    Btw,

    I do have friends in antivirus companies; It's far from impossible for me
    to know all kinds of background things. Yes, I know atleast 2 companies
    (No, I won't give you names, hahahaha.) which did examine malwarebytes
    and found nothing wrong with it. I know of a well documented 3rd company
    who not only disassembled the software, but they even stole the ****ing
    database it uses too. They didn't find anything malicious either, just a
    goldpot of useful definitions they copied.

    > So you have said. Let's hope you are correct.


    If you can disprove my claim, do so.


    --
    (Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over


  4. #54
    Dustin Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    news:PNqdnSnYw-C0PoTTnZ2dnUVZ8mWdnZ2d@bt.com:

    > Perhaps I've missed it. Can you, or anyone, advise where I can
    > obtain Malwarebytes software on a CD/DVD?


    In the states, you can get it at your local best buy store. In a nice
    box. it'll be outdated of course, but that's what the update button is
    for. I don't know if they have outside US distribution in box format yet
    or not.


    --
    (Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over


  5. #55
    Dustin Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    "nopatients" <nopatients@outfishing.com> wrote in
    news:2eded871a8afbe062d2e6ccc564dd16d@msgid.frell. theremailer.net:

    > Run a real operating system and you won't have those problems.


    That's funny as hell. Rootkit is a unix OS term, not a native "windows
    play OS" term.



    --
    (Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over


  6. #56
    Dustin Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    news:h7OdnftQitukK4TTnZ2dnUVZ8nGdnZ2d@bt.com:

    > Another question. Doesn't *every* hard drive have an MBR or its
    > equivalent? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record


    Yes, it does.. every OS does have that.

    > A way to 'infect' even a Linux system, eh?!!


    Why, BD.. perhaps you aren't quite as dumb as I had assumed. ;p

    --
    (Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over


  7. #57
    Aardvark Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:41:33 +0000, Dustin wrote:

    > ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    > news:4rGdnfxE3bnO04TTnZ2dnUVZ7qmdnZ2d@bt.com:
    >
    >> *You* are a marked man, Dustin Cook

    >
    > Oh, just for the record; as you've had a few days to sour over it...
    >
    > Aardvark for the record didn't give you up. He simply told me I should
    > be looking someplace else. He provided no actual information on you.
    >


    I would have been happy if you hadn't told him that :-)

    > Apologies to aardvark for allowing others to think he'd gave you up,


    No apologies needed.

    > but
    > it was funny to see your reaction.
    >


    Heh- wasn't it just?

    > I do have your info, Aardvark has more ethics than you credit him for,
    > he didn't provide it.


    Of course I didn't. I no longer had the information.

    >
    > Second, I'm not a cyber criminal;


    A simple and wholly believable statement.

    > I don't take peoples identities and
    > I'm not out carding anybody. Read the article slowly.






    --
    "Those who do not make human beings the center of their concern soon
    lose the capacity to make any ethical choices, for they willingly
    sacrifice others in the name of the politically expedient and
    practical." - Dwight Macdonald, “The Root Is Man.”

  8. #58
    Aardvark Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:44:41 +0000, Dustin wrote:

    > ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    > news:PNqdnSnYw-C0PoTTnZ2dnUVZ8mWdnZ2d@bt.com:
    >
    >> Perhaps I've missed it. Can you, or anyone, advise where I can obtain
    >> Malwarebytes software on a CD/DVD?

    >
    > In the states, you can get it at your local best buy store. In a nice
    > box. it'll be outdated of course, but that's what the update button is
    > for. I don't know if they have outside US distribution in box format yet
    > or not.


    If it can be obtained over there, odds are it's up for grabs over here
    somewhere.



    --
    "Those who do not make human beings the center of their concern soon
    lose the capacity to make any ethical choices, for they willingly
    sacrifice others in the name of the politically expedient and
    practical." - Dwight Macdonald, “The Root Is Man.”

  9. #59
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    ~BD~ wrote:
    [unrelated group snipped again]
    > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    >> ~BD~ wrote:
    >>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    >>>> If you did post without being the slimeball you are, others might
    >>>> even get to like you. (No, retract that ...)
    >>>
    >>> That comment is a reflection on /you/ - you do realise that?

    >>
    >> No, it is not. /You/ are the slimeball.
    >>
    >>>> Cross-post snipped as not relevant to my reply. Nor your post.
    >>>
    >>> Reinstated. There is a *Freeware* version of Malwarebytes.

    >>
    >> Snipped again.
    >>
    >>>>> So, I repeat my question yet again. Which independent body has
    >>>>> actually checked the software in the manner I suggested
    >>>>> earlier? i.e. Downloaded the software onto a known clean
    >>>>> computer and then forensically examined said machine.
    >>>>
    >>>> The NSA.
    >>>
    >>> Cite a reference please.

    >>
    >> "The NSA has checked the software in the manner you suggested."

    >
    > I'd really like to believe that is true.
    >
    > It was a serious question. How can a member of the public check
    > whether or not what you claim is true? There is certainly no
    > mention of Malwarebytes when searching the NSA website:-
    > http://www.nsa.gov/applications/sear...q=Malwarebytes
    >
    > Is there a straight-forward way to ask the NSA directly?


    Yes.
    http://www.nsa.gov/softwaretesting/s...eededhere.html

    >>> A CD is available on *this* product!

    >>
    >> So what? What possible difference could there be if a product is
    >> downloadable or comes on a CD? Answer: Absolutely none.

    >
    > You are *wrong* about that - IMO.


    Your opinion about technical matters isn't worth the bytes needed to
    print it. Stick to skinny boats.

    > One has absolutely no idea what is actually loaded onto one's
    > computer when one presses the 'Download' button! At least one may
    > check a commercial CD/DVD /before/ loading the software. That's my
    > take anyway. <shrug>


    So if you had this CD/DVD from MalwareBytes, how would you -- *you* --
    know if there was anything untoward about it?

    Who could say that the shipping clerk at MalwareBytes doesn't alert
    the programmers to ship *you* a special disk that makes *your*
    computer go POOF in a huge cloud of gray smoke? Just to get even for
    all your slimy comments toward them, you understand.

    Let's face it: you have a slimy agenda towards MalwareBytes because
    they kicked you out of their forum. You're a disruptive slimeball.

    --
    -bts
    -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul

  10. #60
    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    Dustin wrote:
    > ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    > news:PNqdnSnYw-C0PoTTnZ2dnUVZ8mWdnZ2d@bt.com:
    >
    >> Perhaps I've missed it. Can you, or anyone, advise where I can
    >> obtain Malwarebytes software on a CD/DVD?

    >
    > In the states, you can get it at your local best buy store. In a nice
    > box. it'll be outdated of course, but that's what the update button is
    > for. I don't know if they have outside US distribution in box format yet
    > or not.
    >
    >


    Ah! Thank you Dustin. :-)

    Oh, wait.

    I've looked here and don't see it:

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstempl...lingsort+skuid

    Have I searched incorrectly? Anyone?

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