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  1. #61
    Dustin Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    news:-6ednfk5tbSBe4TTnZ2dnUVZ8lednZ2d@bt.com:

    > Dustin wrote:
    >> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    >> news:PNqdnSnYw-C0PoTTnZ2dnUVZ8mWdnZ2d@bt.com:
    >>
    >>> Perhaps I've missed it. Can you, or anyone, advise where I can
    >>> obtain Malwarebytes software on a CD/DVD?

    >>
    >> In the states, you can get it at your local best buy store. In a
    >> nice box. it'll be outdated of course, but that's what the update
    >> button is for. I don't know if they have outside US distribution in
    >> box format yet or not.
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Ah! Thank you Dustin. :-)
    >
    > Oh, wait.
    >
    > I've looked here and don't see it:


    Did I mention it was on the website or did I just give you a physical
    description? This is what Morgan would correctly this time, call an
    intelligence test.


    > Have I searched incorrectly? Anyone?


    This time, slimeball, you aren't going anywhere. ;p


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  2. #62
    JD Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    > ~BD~ wrote:
    > [unrelated group snipped again]
    >> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    >>> ~BD~ wrote:
    >>>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    >>>>> If you did post without being the slimeball you are, others might
    >>>>> even get to like you. (No, retract that ...)
    >>>>
    >>>> That comment is a reflection on /you/ - you do realise that?
    >>>
    >>> No, it is not. /You/ are the slimeball.
    >>>
    >>>>> Cross-post snipped as not relevant to my reply. Nor your post.
    >>>>
    >>>> Reinstated. There is a *Freeware* version of Malwarebytes.
    >>>
    >>> Snipped again.
    >>>
    >>>>>> So, I repeat my question yet again. Which independent body has
    >>>>>> actually checked the software in the manner I suggested
    >>>>>> earlier? i.e. Downloaded the software onto a known clean
    >>>>>> computer and then forensically examined said machine.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The NSA.
    >>>>
    >>>> Cite a reference please.
    >>>
    >>> "The NSA has checked the software in the manner you suggested."

    >>
    >> I'd really like to believe that is true.
    >>
    >> It was a serious question. How can a member of the public check
    >> whether or not what you claim is true? There is certainly no
    >> mention of Malwarebytes when searching the NSA website:-
    >> http://www.nsa.gov/applications/sear...q=Malwarebytes
    >>
    >> Is there a straight-forward way to ask the NSA directly?

    >
    > Yes.
    > http://www.nsa.gov/softwaretesting/s...eededhere.html
    >
    >>>> A CD is available on *this* product!
    >>>
    >>> So what? What possible difference could there be if a product is
    >>> downloadable or comes on a CD? Answer: Absolutely none.

    >>
    >> You are *wrong* about that - IMO.

    >
    > Your opinion about technical matters isn't worth the bytes needed to
    > print it. Stick to skinny boats.
    >
    >> One has absolutely no idea what is actually loaded onto one's
    >> computer when one presses the 'Download' button! At least one may
    >> check a commercial CD/DVD /before/ loading the software. That's my
    >> take anyway.<shrug>

    >
    > So if you had this CD/DVD from MalwareBytes, how would you -- *you* --
    > know if there was anything untoward about it?
    >
    > Who could say that the shipping clerk at MalwareBytes doesn't alert
    > the programmers to ship *you* a special disk that makes *your*
    > computer go POOF in a huge cloud of gray smoke? Just to get even for
    > all your slimy comments toward them, you understand.
    >
    > Let's face it: you have a slimy agenda towards MalwareBytes because
    > they kicked you out of their forum. You're a disruptive slimeball.
    >


    Hey Beau..

    Did you see my post? The Plonk.

    --
    JD..

  3. #63
    Dustin Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    news:a6ednd3iVNmqD4TTnZ2dnUVZ8gSdnZ2d@bt.com:

    > I persist in the remote hope that someone else might eventually
    > grasp the nettle and provide a /satisfactory/ answer - instead of
    > Dustin simply advising that /he/ has checked it, so it /must/ be OK.


    Okay...

    http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebyte...e/3000-8022_4-
    10804572.html

    or

    http://preview.************/djf9bf

    http://www.cnet.com/download-software-policies/?
    tag=contentMain;downloadLinks

    or

    http://preview.************/5sxneay

    and I'll quote this for the audience you've crossposted this too, for
    their benefit.


    We test all software products submitted to us against a comprehensive
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    Viruses, spyware, and malware

    We will not list software that contains viruses, Trojan horses,
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    The following are types of software we will not accept:

    * Software that installs viruses, Trojan horses, malicious adware,
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    o Software that installs the above items via links to other
    software or Web sites.
    o Links on publishers' Web sites that may enable the
    installation of the above items.
    * Software that installs without notice and the user's consent.
    * Software that serves intrusive advertisements through a Web
    browser, a pop-up window, or Web sites outside the software's primary
    interface.
    * Software that includes or uses surreptitious data collection.
    * Software that collects and transmits information about end users
    or end users' computer usage without adequate prior notification.
    * Software that diverts or modifies end users' default browsers,
    search-engine home pages, providers, security, or privacy-protection
    settings.
    * Software that interferes with users' control and privacy.



    > If the software was available on a CD/DVD in Computerworld or
    > suchlike, I'd never entertain the thought that an anti-malware
    > programme might not be all that it seems.


    It's available at best buy stores, in the retail brick and mortar
    building on the shelf beside the other antivirus apps/suites.

    > Those that download software on-line are, as you will be well aware,
    > highly vulnerable to exploitation. They will seek out items which


    Indeed, but you can download malwarebytes from known reputable sources,
    such as cnn.com. [g]

    > Can you understand where I'm coming from on this? Millions of
    > computers remain infected. The bad guys really are ahead of the
    > game!


    No they aren't. Idiots like you put them on a pedalstal tho. Because
    this machine in front of you is magical. you don't understand that it's
    all based on sound logic and science.

    > i.e. Downloaded the software onto a known clean computer and then
    > forensically examined said machine.


    cnn.com, various antivirus companies labs, and one chinese outfit; they
    thought so highly of what they found, they copied it for their own
    program.

    How's crow taste, David?


    --
    (Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over


  4. #64
    Dustin Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    news:ePKdnai96PQ5OITTnZ2dnUVZ7tednZ2d@bt.com:

    > Reinstated. There is a *Freeware* version of Malwarebytes.


    Yep.

    > Can you, or anyone, advise where I can obtain *Malwarebytes*
    > software on a CD/DVD?


    Yep. I had the wrong store.

    http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index...howtopic=52001

    Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware is now moving into retail stores in addition
    to our online sales. If you would like to own a Malwarebytes' Anti-
    Malware retail box, you can find them at a Fry's Electronics store or
    on the Fry's website. Note: the boxes are selling out very quickly.
    Please check the website for availability near you.

    Also, feel free to post a picture of yourself with the box in your hand
    and post it here :welcome:. Below are a few pictures of our retail box
    in our office in San Jose, California.

    Do you want to go ahead and write a formal apology now?


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    (Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over


  5. #65
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    JD wrote:

    > Hey Beau..
    >
    > Did you see my post? The Plonk.


    Yes. It's soooo hard to resist...

    --
    -bts
    -This poast is valid through December 21, 2012

  6. #66
    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    Dustin wrote:
    > Do you want to go ahead and write a formal apology now?


    To whom - and for what reason?

  7. #67
    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    Dustin wrote:
    > ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    > news:-6ednfk5tbSBe4TTnZ2dnUVZ8lednZ2d@bt.com:
    >
    >> Dustin wrote:
    >>> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    >>> news:PNqdnSnYw-C0PoTTnZ2dnUVZ8mWdnZ2d@bt.com:
    >>>
    >>>> Perhaps I've missed it. Can you, or anyone, advise where I can
    >>>> obtain Malwarebytes software on a CD/DVD?
    >>>
    >>> In the states, you can get it at your local best buy store. In a
    >>> nice box. it'll be outdated of course, but that's what the update
    >>> button is for. I don't know if they have outside US distribution in
    >>> box format yet or not.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Ah! Thank you Dustin. :-)
    >>
    >> Oh, wait.
    >>
    >> I've looked here and don't see it:

    >
    > Did I mention it was on the website or did I just give you a physical
    > description? This is what Morgan would correctly this time, call an
    > intelligence test.
    >
    >
    >> Have I searched incorrectly? Anyone?

    >
    > This time, slimeball, you aren't going anywhere. ;p
    >
    >


    A cock-up on Dustin's part, eh?!!!

    Nobody is perfect Dustin - not even you! ;-)

  8. #68
    Dustin Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in news:RY2dncW7L81vZYTTnZ2dnUVZ7o-
    dnZ2d@bt.com:

    > Dustin wrote:
    >> Do you want to go ahead and write a formal apology now?

    >
    > To whom - and for what reason?
    >


    Well,

    you can write one to malwarebytes for trying to slime their excellent
    product. It's been peer reviewed to hell and back, nothing bad ever
    found. A stand up fellow as you want people to think you are, shouldn't
    have any trouble admitting he was wrong about them and apologizing here
    in public for the comments and innuendo remarks towards their fine
    program.

    You can then write one to me, for trying to provide a streetmap view of
    my house, and for trying to insinuate that I was lying about
    malwarebytes in any possible fashion. You may also apologize for trying
    to imply I was in any way directly associated with the piratebay.

    You do these things, and make it convincing, and perhaps the remailer
    wont' drop the dime on you, but I make no promises as you have tried to
    hurt a lot of people and I'm on the fence as to whether or not it would
    be grey area or blackhat to help them make things right.



    --
    (Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over


  9. #69
    Dustin Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
    news:GJKdncutDuzVZ4TTnZ2dnUVZ7rKdnZ2d@bt.com:

    > A cock-up on Dustin's part, eh?!!!


    cock up? for? getting the wrong store? My bad..

    point is tho, I did get the right information instead of posting in
    alt.comp.freeware that I couldn't find it in any stores. Implying that
    dustin was somehow lying about it.

    > Nobody is perfect Dustin - not even you! ;-)


    David,

    Spin all you like, fact is; malwarebytes is in stores, and it is
    reputable. Oh, and uhh, you couldn't find the stores.


    --
    (Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over


  10. #70
    Bullwinkle. Guest

    Re: Clarification of a few points.

    As a self declared stooge for MI5 why do
    you not have access to the answers?


    "~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in message
    news:yMmdnfBGJIGkIoTTnZ2dnUVZ8kednZ2d@bt.com...
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    > ~BD~ wrote:
    >
    >> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
    >>> If you did post without being the slimeball you are, others might
    >>> even get to like you. (No, retract that ...)

    >>
    >> That comment is a reflection on /you/ - you do realise that?

    >
    > No, it is not. /You/ are the slimeball.
    >
    >>> Cross-post snipped as not relevant to my reply. Nor your post.

    >>
    >> Reinstated. There is a *Freeware* version of Malwarebytes.

    >
    > Snipped again.
    >
    >>>> So, I repeat my question yet again. Which independent body has
    >>>> actually checked the software in the manner I suggested earlier?
    >>>> i.e. Downloaded the software onto a known clean computer and then
    >>>> forensically examined said machine.
    >>>
    >>> The NSA.

    >>
    >> Cite a reference please.

    >
    > "The NSA has checked the software in the manner you suggested."


    I'd really like to believe that is true.

    It was a serious question. How can a member of the public check whether
    or not what you claim is true? There is certainly no mention of
    Malwarebytes when searching the NSA website:-
    http://www.nsa.gov/applications/sear...q=Malwarebytes

    Is there a straight-forward way to ask the NSA directly?

    >> A CD is available on *this* product!

    >
    > So what? What possible difference could there be if a product is
    > downloadable or comes on a CD? Answer: Absolutely none.


    You are *wrong* about that - IMO.

    One has absolutely no idea what is actually loaded onto one's computer
    when one presses the 'Download' button! At least one may check a
    commercial CD/DVD /before/ loading the software. That's my take anyway.
    <shrug>


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