Ping: Dustin Cook - How would *you* find this rootkit?

[~BD~]

Dustin wrote:
> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
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>
>> There is no need for you to feel out-classed - you simply do not
>> have the background nor experience of Dustin Cook. You fix ceilings
>> (at least you /did/, once upon a time!) - Dustin fixes computers ...
>> and he's good at it! :-)
>
> None of you present have the same background as me, David. Not even
> your newest bestest pal, Morgan. His years of college can't make up for
> real life experience. He wasn't published in rolling stones, I was.<--
> That is bragging, for those who confuse simple facts with it.
>
> While Morgan recently commented that I pull wire for a living, He knows
> that I also still run my own technical support company. Similar I
> suspect to what he does. Onsite service calls. Only, if the box has
> real trouble and the customer is willing to pay for my time, I can save
> it, I don't *have to reformat*.<g>
>
> I can also retrieve lost data and information; without HAVING TO RELY
> on other peoples tools. I can find hidden software like spectorsoft
> (LOL!) in my sleep David.
>
> I come from the other side of the fence as you well know. That's why I
> know many of the things I do, that's why whether you like me or not, I
> am an expert in malware.

I have *never* questioned or challenged your expertise, Dustin.

> So while your comment was intended as a wiseass remark, it is true. I
> do fix computers, and I am good at it.

My comment was *not* intended to be a wiseass remark. It was a genuine
acknowledgement of your depth of knowledge.

I do not, though, understand why you have chosen to fight with Graham
Morgan. That is completely unnecessary, in my opinion.

Dave

[Bullwinkle.]

You have the skill set of a retard.

You can not even find hardware after two seasons....LOL


"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in message
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I fully appreciate that few folk, including you, Aardvark, will have the
necessary skill-set to detect anything untoward.

[Dustin]

~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
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> Maybe he'll simply 'pop in' to this thread. I respect his views.

Especially since he has expressed a strong dislike of me, right?

>> Do you have any specific tools in mind which might not work
>> properly BD? or should this be dismissed as more slime?
>
> It's good to have a dialogue with you Dustin. Thank you for
> responding.

I respond to all sorts of people.

> No, I am *not* suggesting that any particular 'tool' is suspect.

Not this time?

> I suppose it is possible that someone like you, Dustin, has never,
> actually, signed up to a 'help' forum and gone through the due
> process of having a 'volunteer' check and clean your computer.

I have signed up on help forums. Sure, but no, not to have my computers
checked. Damnit BD, I'll be accused of bragging again for that.

I can't really say much or do anything at this point without your
lapdog coming to your rescue. Not much point in your requests. If I do
as you ask, I'm a snot nosed braggart for it. What do I get out of
this, David? More slimey comments towards me? More assinine threats
about not making some twit angry? Tell me, what possible benefit could
I get from doing anything you ask?

If you provide a reasonable explanation David, I'll consider doing what
you want me to do. Seriously.

> You have the ability to determine if all recommendations/advice
> given is 'sound'. Perhaps you could find the time to put those folk

Your lapdog doesn't seem to think so. In fact, he thinks that because
I've chosen to pull wire and bend conduit (I really don't bend much
conduit these days, everything's PVC now, but anyway) that I wouldn't
possibly know anything. Perhaps you should ask him to help instead?



--
(Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
(Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
You keep on thinking you can save me save me
(Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
(Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
You've got me thinking that the party's all over

[~BD~]

Dustin wrote:
> ~BD~<~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
> news:iuq8m9$k0d$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> Maybe he'll simply 'pop in' to this thread. I respect his views.
>
> Especially since he has expressed a strong dislike of me, right?
>
>>> Do you have any specific tools in mind which might not work
>>> properly BD? or should this be dismissed as more slime?
>>
>> It's good to have a dialogue with you Dustin. Thank you for
>> responding.
>
> I respond to all sorts of people.
>
>> No, I am *not* suggesting that any particular 'tool' is suspect.
>
> Not this time?

Correct!

>> I suppose it is possible that someone like you, Dustin, has never,
>> actually, signed up to a 'help' forum and gone through the due
>> process of having a 'volunteer' check and clean your computer.
>
> I have signed up on help forums. Sure, but no, not to have my computers
> checked. Damnit BD, I'll be accused of bragging again for that.

You *do* have a sense of humor then?!! ;-)

> I can't really say much or do anything at this point without your
> lapdog coming to your rescue. Not much point in your requests. If I do
> as you ask, I'm a snot nosed braggart for it. What do I get out of
> this, David? More slimey comments towards me? More assinine threats
> about not making some twit angry? Tell me, what possible benefit could
> I get from doing anything you ask?

Kudos - for being *the* man that finds just how a group of bad guys operate!

> If you provide a reasonable explanation David, I'll consider doing what
> you want me to do. Seriously.

Both you and I *know* that Foldes lies. *I* know that Robear Dyer lies
too. Don't do anything just for me - do it to demonstrate that I'm
*wrong* about my suspicion that all is not above board at Aumha.

>> You have the ability to determine if all recommendations/advice
>> given is 'sound'. Perhaps you could find the time to put those folk
>
> Your lapdog doesn't seem to think so. In fact, he thinks that because
> I've chosen to pull wire and bend conduit (I really don't bend much
> conduit these days, everything's PVC now, but anyway) that I wouldn't
> possibly know anything. Perhaps you should ask him to help instead?

Few have the expertise necessary to check whether or not a machine
really *is* clean when judged to be so by any 'helper' at Aumha - if
*anyone* can do this, it is Dustin Cook!

If Graham Morgan can also /test/ my theory - perhaps you should work
together? Good guys versus the bad guys, eh?!!

Dave

[Dustin]

~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in
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>> I have signed up on help forums. Sure, but no, not to have my
>> computers checked. Damnit BD, I'll be accused of bragging again for
>> that.
>
> You *do* have a sense of humor then?!! ;-)

Sure I do. A very dry one. Have you ever seen the original Dr Who?

> Kudos - for being *the* man that finds just how a group of bad guys
> operate!

Which bad guys, David? You've called me a criminal too.

>> If you provide a reasonable explanation David, I'll consider doing
>> what you want me to do. Seriously.
>
> Both you and I *know* that Foldes lies. *I* know that Robear Dyer
> lies too. Don't do anything just for me - do it to demonstrate that
> I'm *wrong* about my suspicion that all is not above board at Aumha.

I just gave you an opportunity to get me to do something for you, all
you had to provide was a reasonable explanation as to why you wanted
me to do it. You have failed to do the one thing I requested,
therefore, I will not help you.

>>> You have the ability to determine if all recommendations/advice
>>> given is 'sound'. Perhaps you could find the time to put those
>>> folk
>>
>> Your lapdog doesn't seem to think so. In fact, he thinks that
>> because I've chosen to pull wire and bend conduit (I really don't
>> bend much conduit these days, everything's PVC now, but anyway)
>> that I wouldn't possibly know anything. Perhaps you should ask him
>> to help instead?
>
> Few have the expertise necessary to check whether or not a machine
> really *is* clean when judged to be so by any 'helper' at Aumha - if
> *anyone* can do this, it is Dustin Cook!

Not just me. I know some others who lurk here who could too. (I
noticed your crossposting).

> If Graham Morgan can also /test/ my theory - perhaps you should work
> together? Good guys versus the bad guys, eh?!!

Morgan won't be much good to you, unless he paid attention to what I
taught him the other day and took good notes. As he confused my
instructions of loading the hive with barts registry editor as to be
dumping the hive, I won't hold my breath. I'll give him the benefit of
the doubt and say he didnt actually mean dumping the hive, but
examining it. I'll go further, he's right, it is time consuming.
However, it isn't the only way in which one can go looking. It's just
*the most reliable* method as the host OS isn't running at the time.

I'll go ahead and tell you now, I really believe that a self taught
individual has more to offer than some college kid who was taught what
the instructor had to share withen legal limits. College is nice, I
did two years of vocational technical school myself, but.. I don't
brag about that, nor do I claim my chronological age automatically
puts me ahead of the game, as it wouldn't.

It's what you do with the time you're here that puts you behind or
ahead. Morgan commented that if I was any good, people would be using
my **** and I wouldn't be pulling wires. Well, everytime you do an
update with malwarebytes, you are using some of my ****; you always
will be, you and millions of other people. [g].

I pull wire because I really enjoy the electrical field. Morgan should
lookup the hackers book and do some educational reading. It's not
uncommon for us to be interested in becoming an electrical engineer,
lineman, or outright electrician as well as a computer nut. In fact,
having electrical knowledge AND extensive computer knowledge (beyond
Morgans, sorry, but, he's not even a programmer and doesn't know the
difference between programmer and coder) guarantees me a ****ing job
anywhere I decide to go, in this country or another.

I don't sit on my ass all day, either. Electrical work is physical.

Doing the electrical work allows me to meet all kinds of people from
different walks of life. I've met many security guys, They're
generally fat lazy ****ers who won't even dig a trench, bury their own
PVC, or run the low voltage wires into the house. We do most of that
for them.

As far as the big deal thing they do, dude, listen, they install a box
usually stashed in the garage with some sensors wired to it. We
generally have to provide them main power AND setup the house for
them. I've only met one guy so far (one!) who actually does his own
damn work, although he still has us run the power for him, but he's a
nice guy and isn't cheeky so I'm happy to help him out.

They outsource the security monitoring, so it's not a super hard job
to do. It's a pain in the ass if your actually doing the work yourself
sometimes, but... I doubt Morgan does; or he wouldn't be talking ****
about pulling wires, as a security guy worth a **** does that too.

....

--
(Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
(Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
You keep on thinking you can save me save me
(Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
(Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
You've got me thinking that the party's all over

[Bullwinkle.]

Can you prove you lackey morgan is a good guy?

Just because he sucks up to you
and repeats your lines, does not make
him a good guy.

Just the opposite.


"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in message
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If Graham Morgan can also /test/ my theory - perhaps you should work
together? Good guys versus the bad guys, eh?!!

[G. Morgan]

Dustin wrote:

>Ask Morgan. Perhaps he can enlighten you. He like you, has to use other
>peoples tools because, like you, he's unable to write his own.

You don't write your own anti-Malware, you use MBAM.

Besides, I want something that WORKS. Not some kludged together crap
that isn't maintained. Why don't you release the source of Bughunter,
since it's abandonware anyway. Let's have a look, or is it too sloppy
code for your buddies to see?

[FromTheRafters]

"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in message
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[...]
> I have no knowledge of the duties of 'Network administrators'. Will they be
> using tools such as Malwarebytes and/or SuperAntispyware?

Probably not.

> Will they use the 'services' of an organisation such as Aumha.net -
> downloading all manner of 'unknown' cleaning 'tools' until the helper/adviser
> deems their network 'clean'? Somehow I doubt that!

Probably not, and why should they - they're not looking for malware.

[~BD~]

FromTheRafters wrote:
> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in message
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> [...]
>> I have no knowledge of the duties of 'Network administrators'. Will they be
>> using tools such as Malwarebytes and/or SuperAntispyware?
>
> Probably not.

Accepted!

>> Will they use the 'services' of an organisation such as Aumha.net -
>> downloading all manner of 'unknown' cleaning 'tools' until the helper/adviser
>> deems their network 'clean'? Somehow I doubt that!
>
> Probably not, and why should they - they're not looking for malware.

I do not understand.

"A network administrator is a person responsible for the maintenance of
computer hardware and software that comprises a computer network. This
normally includes deploying, configuring, maintaining and monitoring
active network equipment."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_administrator

If they do not *look* for malware, how will they ever uncover it?

Dave

[FromTheRafters]

"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in message
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> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> "~BD~"<~BD~@nomail.afraid.com> wrote in message
>> news:iuq5op$1f9$1@dont-email.me...
>> [...]
>>> I have no knowledge of the duties of 'Network administrators'. Will they be
>>> using tools such as Malwarebytes and/or SuperAntispyware?
>>
>> Probably not.
>
> Accepted!
>
>>> Will they use the 'services' of an organisation such as Aumha.net -
>>> downloading all manner of 'unknown' cleaning 'tools' until the
>>> helper/adviser
>>> deems their network 'clean'? Somehow I doubt that!
>>
>> Probably not, and why should they - they're not looking for malware.
>
> I do not understand.
>
> "A network administrator is a person responsible for the maintenance of
> computer hardware and software that comprises a computer network. This
> normally includes deploying, configuring, maintaining and monitoring active
> network equipment."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_administrator
>
> If they do not *look* for malware, how will they ever uncover it?

*It* finds them.